k1 visa and noobs

[Sinergy 3]

Someone said "They ask the same questions all the time." It's the same question to YOU, because you read the threads. There are new people here, and these questions are NOT new to them. God, try and put yourself in their shoes. Maybe you read everything thoroughly and are organized, like me, and want to find the answers on your own. But maybe, like mags said above, they want the reassurance that they're doing the right thing... or the wrong thing.

I just don't understand the complaint that NOOBS are asking about the process. They're NEW. They're SUPPOSED to ask. The guides, while clear to us who have gone through certain parts already, are clear. To someone who's here for the first time, maybe not so much. It's a LOT of information. Have patience with them - is that so hard?

for the bolded part: K1 visa, FIANCE visa, its as clear as its going to get.

It is annoying when there is a 3 or 4 threads on it a week. And i have been in their shoes, so pls dont even go there with me. My point is, new or not, DUH FIANCE VISA IS NOT FOR MARRIAGE BEFORE VISA APPROVAL. and if you cant understand what my point for this post was for, then ignore it. if you dont like that i feel this way, IGNORE IT. practice what you preach.

Oh my God, I have been as polite with you as anyone! Why are you being so rude to me? You just shocked me with this response.

I am far from being rude to you. if you read it as rude, i will add smilies next time. All im saying is, i made my statement, i said what i had to say, why do you argument me on what i feel about ppl continueing to post about wanting to know if they can get married BEFORE the k1 is issued? im not going to change my mind on it. its annoying. and the guides are not hard to follow, its just ppl are lazy and dont want to read them,

the other prob with threads like this is ppl out there end up giving WRONG info and can cause damage.

[bostonparis 0]

Someone said "They ask the same questions all the time." It's the same question to YOU, because you read the threads. There are new people here, and these questions are NOT new to them. God, try and put yourself in their shoes. Maybe you read everything thoroughly and are organized, like me, and want to find the answers on your own. But maybe, like mags said above, they want the reassurance that they're doing the right thing... or the wrong thing.

I just don't understand the complaint that NOOBS are asking about the process. They're NEW. They're SUPPOSED to ask. The guides, while clear to us who have gone through certain parts already, are clear. To someone who's here for the first time, maybe not so much. It's a LOT of information. Have patience with them - is that so hard?

for the bolded part: K1 visa, FIANCE visa, its as clear as its going to get.

It is annoying when there is a 3 or 4 threads on it a week. And i have been in their shoes, so pls dont even go there with me. My point is, new or not, DUH FIANCE VISA IS NOT FOR MARRIAGE BEFORE VISA APPROVAL. and if you cant understand what my point for this post was for, then ignore it. if you dont like that i feel this way, IGNORE IT. practice what you preach.

Oh my God, I have been as polite with you as anyone! Why are you being so rude to me? You just shocked me with this response.

I am far from being rude to you. if you read it as rude, i will add smilies next time. All im saying is, i made my statement, i said what i had to say, why do you argument me on what i feel about ppl continueing to post about wanting to know if they can get married BEFORE the k1 is issued? im not going to change my mind on it. its annoying. and the guides are not hard to follow, its just ppl are lazy and dont want to read them,

the other prob with threads like this is ppl out there end up giving WRONG info and can cause damage.

Sent you a PM.

[Sinergy 3]

Someone said "They ask the same questions all the time." It's the same question to YOU, because you read the threads. There are new people here, and these questions are NOT new to them. God, try and put yourself in their shoes. Maybe you read everything thoroughly and are organized, like me, and want to find the answers on your own. But maybe, like mags said above, they want the reassurance that they're doing the right thing... or the wrong thing.

I just don't understand the complaint that NOOBS are asking about the process. They're NEW. They're SUPPOSED to ask. The guides, while clear to us who have gone through certain parts already, are clear. To someone who's here for the first time, maybe not so much. It's a LOT of information. Have patience with them - is that so hard?

for the bolded part: K1 visa, FIANCE visa, its as clear as its going to get.

It is annoying when there is a 3 or 4 threads on it a week. And i have been in their shoes, so pls dont even go there with me. My point is, new or not, DUH FIANCE VISA IS NOT FOR MARRIAGE BEFORE VISA APPROVAL. and if you cant understand what my point for this post was for, then ignore it. if you dont like that i feel this way, IGNORE IT. practice what you preach.

Oh my God, I have been as polite with you as anyone! Why are you being so rude to me? You just shocked me with this response.

I am far from being rude to you. if you read it as rude, i will add smilies next time. All im saying is, i made my statement, i said what i had to say, why do you argument me on what i feel about ppl continueing to post about wanting to know if they can get married BEFORE the k1 is issued? im not going to change my mind on it. its annoying. and the guides are not hard to follow, its just ppl are lazy and dont want to read them,

the other prob with threads like this is ppl out there end up giving WRONG info and can cause damage.

Sent you a PM.

sent you one back

[~Nini~ 2]

There's a difference between "Hey, I don't know whether this particular piece of evidence is going to help in my I-129F petition" versus "Hey, can you get married while your K1 is still processing?"

I understand that they want assurance. Okay, I posted my share of noobie threads back in the day. But I also read the guides here, I did my research, I used the search function on VJ, I tried looking for the info, all before I posted my maybe-seemingly-stupid question.

But really, when you're asking a question about whether you can get married on a K1 visa, when you've filled out and applied for a visa that says "hey, I'm petitioning for my fiance to come here so that we can get married and start the rest of our lives together", when the intent and meaning of the actual visa is listed in the instructions for the USCIS form - that shows a lack of research on the couple's part, to put it lightly.

[no name 1]

If they can't even be bothered to read the instructions on their I129F forms, to differentiate the fact that a K1 visa is for fiances with the intent to marry in the United States, I don't see that a pinned thread is going to help either.

As I said earlier, the onus of responsibility is ultimately up to them - we can give them as much info as we want, but it's up to them to interpret it and use it towards their petition.

But if god forbid you point out the guides, then you are branded not helpful!

If you point out the guides without any direction, no, it's not really helpful.

Bostonparis - you have not even posted in the K1 forum since May April. How is that helping?

Edited July 26, 2007 by devilette

[bostonparis 0]

If they can't even be bothered to read the instructions on their I129F forms, to differentiate the fact that a K1 visa is for fiances with the intent to marry in the United States, I don't see that a pinned thread is going to help either.

As I said earlier, the onus of responsibility is ultimately up to them - we can give them as much info as we want, but it's up to them to interpret it and use it towards their petition.

But if god forbid you point out the guides, then you are branded not helpful!

If you point out the guides without any direction, no, it's not really helpful.

Bostonparis - you have not even posted in the K1 forum since May. How is that helping?

Well, I had cancer surgery on May 16, then I got married, so I've been a little busy. Next question?

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sent you one back

I sent you another one back!

Edited July 26, 2007 by bostonparis

[no name 1]

If they can't even be bothered to read the instructions on their I129F forms, to differentiate the fact that a K1 visa is for fiances with the intent to marry in the United States, I don't see that a pinned thread is going to help either.

As I said earlier, the onus of responsibility is ultimately up to them - we can give them as much info as we want, but it's up to them to interpret it and use it towards their petition.

But if god forbid you point out the guides, then you are branded not helpful!

If you point out the guides without any direction, no, it's not really helpful.

Bostonparis - you have not even posted in the K1 forum since May. How is that helping?

Well, I had cancer surgery on May 16, then I got married, so I've been a little busy. Next question?

Well you had no problems posting in other forums in May-onwards though.

Just saying don't be so quick to judge if you aren't helping yourself.

[smoke20 0]

you guys have made work fun for me again. ssskkkeeettt'em

[bostonparis 0]

If they can't even be bothered to read the instructions on their I129F forms, to differentiate the fact that a K1 visa is for fiances with the intent to marry in the United States, I don't see that a pinned thread is going to help either.

As I said earlier, the onus of responsibility is ultimately up to them - we can give them as much info as we want, but it's up to them to interpret it and use it towards their petition.

But if god forbid you point out the guides, then you are branded not helpful!

If you point out the guides without any direction, no, it's not really helpful.

Bostonparis - you have not even posted in the K1 forum since May. How is that helping?

Well, I had cancer surgery on May 16, then I got married, so I've been a little busy. Next question?

Well you had no problems posting in other forums in May-onwards though.

Just saying don't be so quick to judge if you aren't helping yourself.

I'm not judging. I'm saying that personally, I'd rather see no post to my question than one that doesn't help and is just there to say, "You've annoyed me."

[no name 1]

If they can't even be bothered to read the instructions on their I129F forms, to differentiate the fact that a K1 visa is for fiances with the intent to marry in the United States, I don't see that a pinned thread is going to help either.

As I said earlier, the onus of responsibility is ultimately up to them - we can give them as much info as we want, but it's up to them to interpret it and use it towards their petition.

But if god forbid you point out the guides, then you are branded not helpful!

If you point out the guides without any direction, no, it's not really helpful.

Bostonparis - you have not even posted in the K1 forum since May. How is that helping?

Well, I had cancer surgery on May 16, then I got married, so I've been a little busy. Next question?

Well you had no problems posting in other forums in May-onwards though.

Just saying don't be so quick to judge if you aren't helping yourself.

I'm not judging. I'm saying that personally, I'd rather see no post to my question than one that doesn't help and is just there to say, "You've annoyed me."

Going off the above bolded post, you claim that posting the guides link is not helpful. I think it is. Some people dont bother to look at them. There is no other way to suggest that noobs get informed than to use these valuable resources.

[Sinergy 3]

If they can't even be bothered to read the instructions on their I129F forms, to differentiate the fact that a K1 visa is for fiances with the intent to marry in the United States, I don't see that a pinned thread is going to help either.

As I said earlier, the onus of responsibility is ultimately up to them - we can give them as much info as we want, but it's up to them to interpret it and use it towards their petition.

But if god forbid you point out the guides, then you are branded not helpful!

If you point out the guides without any direction, no, it's not really helpful.

Bostonparis - you have not even posted in the K1 forum since May. How is that helping?

Well, I had cancer surgery on May 16, then I got married, so I've been a little busy. Next question?

Well you had no problems posting in other forums in May-onwards though.

Just saying don't be so quick to judge if you aren't helping yourself.

I'm not judging. I'm saying that personally, I'd rather see no post to my question than one that doesn't help and is just there to say, "You've annoyed me."

But like i told you in PM, its not about the questions about the process, its the one certain question always asked

" can i get married while waiting for the k1 to be issued?" and even when you tell them no they still dont understand

and then 2 more posts come the same week for the same q

[bostonparis 0]

If they can't even be bothered to read the instructions on their I129F forms, to differentiate the fact that a K1 visa is for fiances with the intent to marry in the United States, I don't see that a pinned thread is going to help either.

As I said earlier, the onus of responsibility is ultimately up to them - we can give them as much info as we want, but it's up to them to interpret it and use it towards their petition.

But if god forbid you point out the guides, then you are branded not helpful!

If you point out the guides without any direction, no, it's not really helpful.

Bostonparis - you have not even posted in the K1 forum since May. How is that helping?

Well, I had cancer surgery on May 16, then I got married, so I've been a little busy. Next question?

Well you had no problems posting in other forums in May-onwards though.

Just saying don't be so quick to judge if you aren't helping yourself.

I'm not judging. I'm saying that personally, I'd rather see no post to my question than one that doesn't help and is just there to say, "You've annoyed me."

But like i told you in PM, its not about the questions about the process, its the one certain question always asked

" can i get married while waiting for the k1 to be issued?" and even when you tell them no they still dont understand

and then 2 more posts come the same week for the same q

I just responded to your PM, too. I totally get it, and I get the frustration. Like I said in my PM, tomorrow, I'll probably be about something else! Maybe today I'm feeling more philanthropic. In any case, I totally see your point, and people here say and do certain things that completely grate on me as well. I getcha.

[cheeky^Wolf 0]

I think I suggested this before, not sure if it's possible but...

How about when a new member joins, they are emailed the guidelines like the VJ guides?

That way, if they ask a silly/annoying/repetitive question, they can be referred back to their email.

Dunno if I suggested this before too, but I kinda like the idea of having a journey buddy, who's been through it and can be relied upon to give or get answers to these questions.

I know it's worked for others and good friendships have been formed from them too. That way, if the buddy didn't know the answer, they could ask the question on the forums and would probably get a far quicker and more accurate response than a newbie.

[bostonparis 0]

If they can't even be bothered to read the instructions on their I129F forms, to differentiate the fact that a K1 visa is for fiances with the intent to marry in the United States, I don't see that a pinned thread is going to help either.

As I said earlier, the onus of responsibility is ultimately up to them - we can give them as much info as we want, but it's up to them to interpret it and use it towards their petition.

But if god forbid you point out the guides, then you are branded not helpful!

If you point out the guides without any direction, no, it's not really helpful.

Bostonparis - you have not even posted in the K1 forum since May. How is that helping?

Well, I had cancer surgery on May 16, then I got married, so I've been a little busy. Next question?

Well you had no problems posting in other forums in May-onwards though.

Just saying don't be so quick to judge if you aren't helping yourself.

I'm not judging. I'm saying that personally, I'd rather see no post to my question than one that doesn't help and is just there to say, "You've annoyed me."

Going off the above bolded post, you claim that posting the guides link is not helpful. I think it is. Some people dont bother to look at them. There is no other way to suggest that noobs get informed than to use these valuable resources.

I misspoke. What I meant to say was: is not helpful without a link. That's all.

[chri'stina 190]

It's been a long time since I tried helping on the K1 forum as I already said, but I remember the feeling of answering the same questions. Maybe those who feel burned out on it can just take a week or two away from it. I know it can get annoying to see some of the Q's but like others said it's true we have to remember they are very new to this whole thing and if they are not good with paperwork they are going to have even more Q's.

I know a problem with stepping away from helping though is when you see an answer that is wrong, you want to step back in again to correct it, which is needed sometimes! But then you don't take the break you might need from all the questions.