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LIMA -- Efforts to stem illegal immigrants from neighboring countries are increasing in parts of Latin America because of concerns, similar to those in the United States, that they drive down salaries and bring crime and violence with them.

Ecuador, Chile and Venezuela are discussing whether to restrict illegal migrants while Costa Rica recently tightened barriers. Peru is studying whether to tighten its southern border with Bolivia.

Driving the changes are concerns echoed in the current U.S. immigration debate: that undocumented workers take jobs from locals, raise the crime rate and drain tax dollars through their use of public school and health systems.

In the same vein, business groups in the region have been opposing new laws that might limit uneducated, low-cost laborers from migrating to countries that need them -- just as in the United States.

Governments throughout the region report almost three million immigrants, according to the U.N. Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean. A majority is believed to lack proper documentation.

In Ecuador, a presidential candidate in last year's campaign made concern about illegal aliens there a staple of her campaign, said Gioconda Herrera, a researcher at FLACSO, a Latin American think tank with an office in Ecuador. She added that she couldn't remember another presidential candidate making it such a major issue.

The concern there is with Colombians who have fled the war in their country and moved to northern Ecuador, to sell knickknacks in the street and work on sugar and banana farms, Herrera said.

''The public wants more control so more undocumented workers don't enter,'' Herrera said by telephone from Quito, adding that the concern ``has reached xenophobic levels.''

Smaller numbers of illegal Peruvians in southern Ecuador have not provoked much public unease, she added. Ecuador and Peru signed an agreement in December to give the Peruvians temporary legal papers to work in Ecuador, but few have bothered to sign up.

Undocumented Colombians in Venezuela have prompted concern there, said Raquel Alvarez, an immigration specialist at the University of the Andes in San Cristobal, on the Colombian-Venezuelan border.

''There's little anxiety that Colombians are taking the jobs of Venezuelans. They take jobs in sectors where there aren't enough Venezuelans, such as textiles or on farms,'' Alvarez said by telephone. ``The concern is that violent elements are crossing into Venezuela to commit killings and kidnappings.''

The government has beefed up its border posts as a result, Alvarez added.

Chile's strong economy during the past 20 years has been a magnet for illegal immigrants from Colombia, Ecuador, Bolivia and especially Peru.

''It's a brand new issue for us,'' Jorge Muñoz, a project coordinator at the International Organization for Migration, said from the group's Santiago office.

The Chilean Congress is discussing whether to begin penalizing people who are paid to smuggle in illegal aliens. President Michelle Bachelet's government also is drafting a proposal that would allow illegal migrants to gain temporary legal status to work and perhaps eventually gain citizenship.

Argentina approved a measure in 2003 to give illegal migrants the right to public schools and health clinics and to pave the way for temporary work status, said Jorge Gurrieri, a professor at the University of Buenos Aires who specializes in immigration issues.

Gurrieri said 380,000 illegal immigrants have applied for papers since the application window opened a year ago. The country has long attracted poor workers from neighboring countries because of its better economic opportunities.

''The problem of illegal aliens has lost its political force with the new law,'' Gurrieri said by telephone from Buenos Aires.

Nicaraguans illegally living in Costa Rica have prompted greater concern there since they represent about 6 percent of Costa Rica's population, said Guillermo Acuna, a researcher with FLACSO's Costa Rica office.

Costa Rica's Congress approved a measure in 2005 that created a vehicle for Nicaraguans to apply for Costa Rican citizenship, but the measure also imposed penalties on businesses that hire undocumented workers.

''There are sectors within Costa Rica that are uncomfortable with the Nicaraguans,'' Acuna said by telephone from San José. ``Unions, in particular, feel like the Nicaraguans cost them jobs and force down wages.''

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That can't be right. None of these countries is a member to NAFTA which we are being told actually causes all this illegal migration. The authors of this article must have this wrong. Very wrong... :whistle:

On the other hand, these stories kind of share the common thread with the US situation that illegal migration is promoted by those that seek to boost their profits at the expense of the public at large. That must be a coincidence, though, since we know that NAFTA actually promotes illegal migration. :blink:

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Chile's strong economy during the past 20 years has been a magnet for illegal immigrants from Colombia, Ecuador, Bolivia and especially Peru.

I suppose that this is only going to drive an even bigger wedge between Chileans and Peruvians. Just lovely :thumbs:

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That can't be right. None of these countries is a member to NAFTA which we are being told actually causes all this illegal migration. The authors of this article must have this wrong. Very wrong... :whistle:

On the other hand, these stories kind of share the common thread with the US situation that illegal migration is promoted by those that seek to boost their profits at the expense of the public at large. That must be a coincidence, though, since we know that NAFTA actually promotes illegal migration. :blink:

I do not know why people seriously think NAFTA is the cause considering the US has free trade agreements with so many other nations. Funnily enough Canada's economy didn't collapse from NAFTA; even though it costs much more to employ your average Joe there in comparison to the US.

Same story applies to China and India when you think about it..

According to the Internal Revenue Service, the 400 richest American households earned a total of $US138 billion, up from $US105 billion a year earlier. That's an average of $US345 million each, on which they paid a tax rate of just 16.6 per cent.

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Chile's strong economy during the past 20 years has been a magnet for illegal immigrants from Colombia, Ecuador, Bolivia and especially Peru.

I suppose that this is only going to drive an even bigger wedge between Chileans and Peruvians. Just lovely :thumbs:

For real...as if they don't hate each other enough as it is :angry:

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wow, illegals everywhere..in Kazakhstan, it is the Chinese....

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But when we turn to the Hebrew literature, we do not find such jokes about the donkey. Rather the animal is known for its strength and its loyalty to its master (Genesis 49:14; Numbers 22:30).

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wow, illegals everywhere..in Kazakhstan, it is the Chinese....

LOL - they can easily blend in.

nope, the Kazakhs are a blend of Mongols and ethnic turk tribes, the chiese are from the west and are easily distinguished

Peace to All creatures great and small............................................

But when we turn to the Hebrew literature, we do not find such jokes about the donkey. Rather the animal is known for its strength and its loyalty to its master (Genesis 49:14; Numbers 22:30).

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my burro, bosco ..enjoying a beer in almaty

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That can't be right. None of these countries is a member to NAFTA which we are being told actually causes all this illegal migration. The authors of this article must have this wrong. Very wrong... :whistle:

On the other hand, these stories kind of share the common thread with the US situation that illegal migration is promoted by those that seek to boost their profits at the expense of the public at large. That must be a coincidence, though, since we know that NAFTA actually promotes illegal migration. :blink:

This article doesn't negate the argument that trade pacts have economic repercussions which lead to large migrations to places where better economic opportunities exist, particular for the poor. In fact it validates that argument.

From the above article...

Gurrieri said 380,000 illegal immigrants have applied for papers since the application window opened a year ago. The country has long attracted poor workers from neighboring countries because of its better economic opportunities.

Some other points that I think you casually overlooked...

..."the concern ``has reached xenophobic levels.''
Chile's strong economy during the past 20 years has been a magnet for illegal immigrants from Colombia, Ecuador, Bolivia and especially Peru.
Argentina approved a measure in 2003 to give illegal migrants the right to public schools and health clinics and to pave the way for temporary work status, said Jorge Gurrieri, a professor at the University of Buenos Aires who specializes in immigration issues.

Mass migrations are driven by economic forces, therefore addressing the economic disparities between the US and our neighboring country, Mexico, would have the most impact on curbing illegal immigration (in this US).

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Mass migrations are driven by economic forces, therefore addressing the economic disparities between the US and our neighboring country, Mexico, would have the most impact on curbing illegal immigration (in this US).

That's Mexico's job, not ours.

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Mass migrations are driven by economic forces, therefore addressing the economic disparities between the US and our neighboring country, Mexico, would have the most impact on curbing illegal immigration (in this US).

That's Mexico's job, not ours.

We share that responsibility, IMO.

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Mass migrations are driven by economic forces, therefore addressing the economic disparities between the US and our neighboring country, Mexico, would have the most impact on curbing illegal immigration (in this US).

That's Mexico's job, not ours.

We share that responsibility, IMO.

Well then perhaps Mexico should start sharing responsibility for millions of their citizens

who are illegally in the U.S., don't ya think?

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Mass migrations are driven by economic forces, therefore addressing the economic disparities between the US and our neighboring country, Mexico, would have the most impact on curbing illegal immigration (in this US).

That's Mexico's job, not ours.

We share that responsibility, IMO.

Well then perhaps Mexico should start sharing responsibility for millions of their citizens

who are illegally in the U.S., don't ya think?

For sure.

 

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