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Hi,

 

I am the intending immigrant on an IR-1, with the appointment with embassy London.

 

My wife is the USC petitioner. She is a full time mother so she is recording a nil income in part 6. She (and I as intending immigrant) have assets but they are not sufficiently large or liquid to be used to supplement income to push us over the federal poverty guidelines. We are thus relying on a USC joint sponsor whose income comfortably exceeds the relevant federal poverty guidelines. 

 

My question is on my wife (petitioner's) I-864

- Given that the income in part 6 does not exceed the federal poverty guidelines, she is not subject to the statement that 'YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO COMPLETE PART 7'

- However, we will also not be using her/my assets to supplement income as they are not sufficiently liquid or large, and our joint sponsor's income is more than sufficient.

- Therefore, I propose that she fills in part 7 but put all values as zero, and include a note in Part 11 stating "SINCE MY INCOME DOES NOT EXCEED THE FEDERAL POVERTY GUIDELINES I AM REQUIRED TO COMPLETE THIS PART. HOWEVER, THE ASSETS OF ME AND MY HUSBAND ARE NOT SUFFICIENTLY LARGE OR LIQUID ENOUGH TO BE USED TO SUPPLEMENT INCOME. THEREFORE I HAVE PUT ZERO FOR THE VALUES IN THIS PART, SINCE I AM NOT USING THESE ASSETS TO SUPPLEMENT INCOME, AND USING A JOINT SPONSOR INSTEAD"

 

Does this seem reasonable? It seems a bit of a waste of the CO's time to insert a load of bank statements to support balance of our checking accounts etc that will be pretty useless to the CO.

 

Thanks

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7 minutes ago, swedey2k said:

Hi,

 

I am the intending immigrant on an IR-1, with the appointment with embassy London.

 

My wife is the USC petitioner. She is a full time mother so she is recording a nil income in part 6. She (and I as intending immigrant) have assets but they are not sufficiently large or liquid to be used to supplement income to push us over the federal poverty guidelines. We are thus relying on a USC joint sponsor whose income comfortably exceeds the relevant federal poverty guidelines. 

 

My question is on my wife (petitioner's) I-864

- Given that the income in part 6 does not exceed the federal poverty guidelines, she is not subject to the statement that 'YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO COMPLETE PART 7'

- However, we will also not be using her/my assets to supplement income as they are not sufficiently liquid or large, and our joint sponsor's income is more than sufficient.

- Therefore, I propose that she fills in part 7 but put all values as zero, and include a note in Part 11 stating "SINCE MY INCOME DOES NOT EXCEED THE FEDERAL POVERTY GUIDELINES I AM REQUIRED TO COMPLETE THIS PART. HOWEVER, THE ASSETS OF ME AND MY HUSBAND ARE NOT SUFFICIENTLY LARGE OR LIQUID ENOUGH TO BE USED TO SUPPLEMENT INCOME. THEREFORE I HAVE PUT ZERO FOR THE VALUES IN THIS PART, SINCE I AM NOT USING THESE ASSETS TO SUPPLEMENT INCOME, AND USING A JOINT SPONSOR INSTEAD"

 

Does this seem reasonable? It seems a bit of a waste of the CO's time to insert a load of bank statements to support balance of our checking accounts etc that will be pretty useless to the CO.

 

Thanks

As you are using a joint sponsor , there is no need to complete the assets section. She still needs to complete her income and recent tax information and provide tax transcript for the previous tax year 

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She is your sponsor.  She must list her current income.  She must list tax information or reasons why she didn't file.  You both MUST have sufficient income to live in the US.  I hope you have planned well, because the US is expensive in many ways.

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December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

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2 minutes ago, swedey2k said:

Thankyou Lil Bear! That's what I hoped was the answer (given it is common sense) but grateful to you for confirming. 

You are welcome. Hope the journey finishes soon and well! 

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3 minutes ago, missileman said:

She is your sponsor.  She must list her current income.  She must list tax information or reasons why she didn't file.  You both MUST have sufficient income to live in the US.  I hope you have planned well, because the US is expensive in many ways.

Thanks missileman,

 

Just to check- thee statement 'You both MUST have sufficient income to live in the US'- is this is a requirement to obtain an IR-1 visa? I thought that provided you have a joint sponsor who meets the income requirements, the petitioner/main sponsor and intending immigrant do not necessarily need to have any income at all?

 

Or is it general advice, in which case absolutely understood,  but don't worry, we have planned and are all good.

 

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1 minute ago, swedey2k said:

Thanks missileman,

 

Just to check- thee statement 'You both MUST have sufficient income to live in the US'- is this is a requirement to obtain an IR-1 visa? I thought that provided you have a joint sponsor who meets the income requirements, the petitioner/main sponsor and intending immigrant do not necessarily need to have any income at all?

 

Or is it general advice, in which case absolutely understood,  but don't worry, we have planned and are all good.

 

General advice.........good luck on your journey........

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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