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All of the numbers were not bad, so at least it is a start. The 26% supporting suicide bombers attacking civilians is very disturbing though. It appears that older Muslims rejected such barbarity and that is a good place to build upon.

how anyone could add up the separate numbers into one group of 26% as having the same POV is totally retarded and clearly aimed at either wanting to remain ignorant or a desire to perpetuate the constant misinformation about muslims.

2 percent say they're often justified

13 percent say bombings are sometimes justified and

11 percent say they are rarely justified

Let's put this a different way. If 2% of Americans say abortions are often justified, 13% say sometimes, and 11% say they are rarely justified, are these people to be lumped together as having the same POV and therefore the conclusion can be drawn that 26% of Americans support abortion?

Even by separating those numbers 2%, 13%, 11% those figures are still shocking to me. Nevertheless those numbers were coming from younger American Muslims so there is still hope to turn those numbers around. Even if it was 1% that would still be unacceptable as far as I am concerned. Violence against innocent civilians is never acceptable. There is no way to ever justify that. I think better energy would be spent by attacking the problem instead of the numbers.

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All of the numbers were not bad, so at least it is a start. The 26% supporting suicide bombers attacking civilians is very disturbing though. It appears that older Muslims rejected such barbarity and that is a good place to build upon.

how anyone could add up the separate numbers into one group of 26% as having the same POV is totally retarded and clearly aimed at either wanting to remain ignorant or a desire to perpetuate the constant misinformation about muslims.

2 percent say they're often justified

13 percent say bombings are sometimes justified and

11 percent say they are rarely justified

Let's put this a different way. If 2% of Americans say abortions are often justified, 13% say sometimes, and 11% say they are rarely justified, are these people to be lumped together as having the same POV and therefore the conclusion can be drawn that 26% of Americans support abortion?

Even by separating those numbers 2%, 13%, 11% those figures are still shocking to me. Nevertheless those numbers were coming from younger American Muslims so there is still hope to turn those numbers around. Even if it was 1% that would still be unacceptable as far as I am concerned. Violence against innocent civilians is never acceptable. There is no way to ever justify that. I think better energy would be spent by attacking the problem instead of the numbers.

And certainly you hold your own government and fellow citizens up to this standard then?

It's thoroughly amazing to me this privileged western POV. People who have weapons and have never had to fight for their homes get to decide what is morally right for those that do and don't have weapons will never cease to amaze me.

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All of the numbers were not bad, so at least it is a start. The 26% supporting suicide bombers attacking civilians is very disturbing though. It appears that older Muslims rejected such barbarity and that is a good place to build upon.

how anyone could add up the separate numbers into one group of 26% as having the same POV is totally retarded and clearly aimed at either wanting to remain ignorant or a desire to perpetuate the constant misinformation about muslims.

2 percent say they're often justified

13 percent say bombings are sometimes justified and

11 percent say they are rarely justified

Let's put this a different way. If 2% of Americans say abortions are often justified, 13% say sometimes, and 11% say they are rarely justified, are these people to be lumped together as having the same POV and therefore the conclusion can be drawn that 26% of Americans support abortion?

Even by separating those numbers 2%, 13%, 11% those figures are still shocking to me. Nevertheless those numbers were coming from younger American Muslims so there is still hope to turn those numbers around. Even if it was 1% that would still be unacceptable as far as I am concerned. Violence against innocent civilians is never acceptable. There is no way to ever justify that. I think better energy would be spent by attacking the problem instead of the numbers.

And certainly you hold your own government and fellow citizens up to this standard then?

Absolutely,innocent civilians period.

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It's thoroughly amazing to me this privileged western POV. People who have weapons and have never had to fight for their homes get to decide what is morally right for those that do and don't have weapons will never cease to amaze me.

Why don't these young Muslims have the same "privileged western POV" then?

After all, they are all native-born Americans who have never had to fight for their homes either.

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All of the numbers were not bad, so at least it is a start. The 26% supporting suicide bombers attacking civilians is very disturbing though. It appears that older Muslims rejected such barbarity and that is a good place to build upon.

how anyone could add up the separate numbers into one group of 26% as having the same POV is totally retarded and clearly aimed at either wanting to remain ignorant or a desire to perpetuate the constant misinformation about muslims.

2 percent say they're often justified

13 percent say bombings are sometimes justified and

11 percent say they are rarely justified

Let's put this a different way. If 2% of Americans say abortions are often justified, 13% say sometimes, and 11% say they are rarely justified, are these people to be lumped together as having the same POV and therefore the conclusion can be drawn that 26% of Americans support abortion?

Even by separating those numbers 2%, 13%, 11% those figures are still shocking to me. Nevertheless those numbers were coming from younger American Muslims so there is still hope to turn those numbers around. Even if it was 1% that would still be unacceptable as far as I am concerned. Violence against innocent civilians is never acceptable. There is no way to ever justify that. I think better energy would be spent by attacking the problem instead of the numbers.

And certainly you hold your own government and fellow citizens up to this standard then?

It's thoroughly amazing to me this privileged western POV. People who have weapons and have never had to fight for their homes get to decide what is morally right for those that do and don't have weapons will never cease to amaze me.

I would sincerely hope that believing that the killing of innocent civilans as being barbaric,would be a human point of view and not just a Western one.

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All of the numbers were not bad, so at least it is a start. The 26% supporting suicide bombers attacking civilians is very disturbing though. It appears that older Muslims rejected such barbarity and that is a good place to build upon.

how anyone could add up the separate numbers into one group of 26% as having the same POV is totally retarded and clearly aimed at either wanting to remain ignorant or a desire to perpetuate the constant misinformation about muslims.

2 percent say they're often justified

13 percent say bombings are sometimes justified and

11 percent say they are rarely justified

Let's put this a different way. If 2% of Americans say abortions are often justified, 13% say sometimes, and 11% say they are rarely justified, are these people to be lumped together as having the same POV and therefore the conclusion can be drawn that 26% of Americans support abortion?

Even by separating those numbers 2%, 13%, 11% those figures are still shocking to me. Nevertheless those numbers were coming from younger American Muslims so there is still hope to turn those numbers around. Even if it was 1% that would still be unacceptable as far as I am concerned. Violence against innocent civilians is never acceptable. There is no way to ever justify that. I think better energy would be spent by attacking the problem instead of the numbers.

you completely miss the point. people try to use these numbers as if they are somehow isolated to muslims. they're not. the world's leader in suicide attacks is the tamil tigers, a secular, marxist group. but no one's surveying secular people, atheists, marxists, etc, trying to draw asinine conclusions that such ideologies are somehow tied into thinking suicide attacks are hunky-dory. yet somehow it's perfectly acceptable to do that with islam? i'm choking over the double standard here. it smacks of bigotry, and an agenda.

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It's thoroughly amazing to me this privileged western POV. People who have weapons and have never had to fight for their homes get to decide what is morally right for those that do and don't have weapons will never cease to amaze me.

Why don't these young Muslims have the same "privileged western POV" then?

After all, they are all native-born Americans who have never had to fight for their homes either.

being in the west isn't synonymous with privilege. this point from the article was rather interesting.

More specifically, however, native-born African-American Muslims are the most disillusioned segment of the U.S. Muslim population. They are more skeptical of the view that hard work pays off, are less satisfied with the way things are going in the America, and more of them believe that Muslim immigrants should try to remain apart from mainstream U.S. society.

wonder why they'd think so...

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i agree with you on that vitiligo..allot of converted muslims do so in prison..through the moorish science temple....saw it many times, in my years of corrections.

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I don't know the answer to this - but for anyone who may have taken the time to go through the survey in its full form, do you know if this article differentiates between NOI and mainstream Islam?

i didn't see anything, but this is also a crucial point.

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I don't know the answer to this - but for anyone who may have taken the time to go through the survey in its full form, do you know if this article differentiates between NOI and mainstream Islam?
i didn't see anything, but this is also a crucial point.
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