Muslims 'well integrated' in US

[homesick_american 1]

This is good news, but they're kidding themselves about the 9/11 terrorists. They need to accept that Arab men did it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6680939.stm

Muslim Americans are largely integrated in US society and moderate in their views, a nationwide survey suggests.

The study by the Pew Research Center says US Muslims - most of whom are immigrants - believe in the American work ethic and reject extremism.

Their income and education levels mirror those of the general US public, according to the survey.

However, most respondents say life has become more difficult for US Muslims since the 11 September attacks.

The survey - entitled Muslim Americans, Middle Class and Mostly Mainstream - estimates the number of adult Muslims in the US at 1.5 million, and says 65% are immigrants.

Among native-born Muslims, about half are African American - many of whom are converts.

Overall, the study says, Muslim Americans have a positive view of US society at large.

Most say their communities are excellent or good places to live.

As many Muslim Americans as members of the general public express satisfaction with the state of the nation, the authors say.

Moreover, 71% of Muslim Americans agreed that people could get ahead in the US by working hard - the figure for the general public was 64%.

"The life situations and attitudes of Muslim Americans stand in contrast with those of Muslim minorities of Western Europe."

Pew Global Attitudes surveys last year in the UK, France, Germany and Spain found that most Muslims there suffered unemployment and felt marginalised.

The latest poll suggests that US Muslims reject Islamic radicalism by larger margins than do Muslims in other parts of the world.

However, the study adds, there is somewhat more acceptance of Islamic extremism in some segments of the US Muslim public than others.

Fewer native-born African American Muslims than others completely condemn al-Qaeda, according to the report.

In addition, younger Muslims in the US are more likely than older Muslim Americans to say that suicide bombing in the defence of Islam can sometimes be justified.

On foreign policy, US Muslims are more critical of the US operations in Iraq and Afghanistan than the general public, the survey indicates.

'Singled out'

Consistent with the views of Muslims in other countries, fewer that half of Muslim Americans - regardless of their age - accept the idea that Arab men carried out the 11 September attacks, the study says.

It adds that the attacks "continue to cast a long shadow over Muslim Americans", with 53% saying life has become more difficult since then.

Many say they worry about government surveillance, stereotyping and harassment.

The main concerns voiced by respondents were job discrimination and prejudice.

Many say Muslims are perceived as potential terrorists.

According to the report, 54% believe the US government has singled out Muslims for increased surveillance and monitoring

However, expressions of support are just as common as incidents of bigotry, the survey suggests.

Overall, a third of American Muslims say someone offered to help them because of their religion.

[sereia 0]

they certainly seem to do better here than europe...which is great. but not believing that arabs pulled 9/11 is ridiculous. but then again muslims are really into conspiracy theories.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

I think it was Eskimos.

[JoeMama 0]

I think it was that damn Sasquatch that was behind 9/11!

[kerewin21 2]

they certainly seem to do better here than europe...which is great. but not believing that arabs pulled 9/11 is ridiculous. but then again muslims are really into conspiracy theories.

Not just muslims... people in general are really into conspiracy theories!

[pedroh 21]

I'm Halal

[Dr_LHA 3]

This is good news, but they're kidding themselves about the 9/11 terrorists. They need to accept that Arab men did it.

Well the government doesn't seem to accept it either, so why should they? IIRC we went to war with Afghanistan and Iraq over 9/11 and "terrorism", but we're still best mates with Saudi Arabia where all the terrorists and their funding actually come from.

[KHURRAM SERAJ 0]

We need to accept the fact the people involved in 9/11 werer arabs but also need to keep in mind that first of all they were not immigrants and secondly they

were not in any way shape or form good muslims and you can read that they werre drinking the night before and a true muslim ready to sacrifice their life for their cause would have never done that.

[homesick_american 1]

This is good news, but they're kidding themselves about the 9/11 terrorists. They need to accept that Arab men did it.

Well the government doesn't seem to accept it either, so why should they? IIRC we went to war with Afghanistan and Iraq over 9/11 and "terrorism", but we're still best mates with Saudi Arabia where all the terrorists and their funding actually come from.

They weren't all Saudis...just for the record.

I don't approve of my country's "friendly" relations with Saudi Arabia, a country I consider to be incredibly backward and oppressive. We need energy independence now. Today. This minute.

We need to accept the fact the people involved in 9/11 werer arabs but also need to keep in mind that first of all they were not immigrants and secondly they

were not in any way shape or form good muslims and you can read that they werre drinking the night before and a true muslim ready to sacrifice their life for their cause would have never done that.

I know they're not typical Muslims or Arabs. I had several Muslim and/or Arab friends in Texas and I found them all to be warm, caring, considerate people.

[Dr_LHA 3]

They weren't all Saudis...just for the record.

No, but only 4 out of the 19 hijackers were not from Saudi Arabia.

[Saddle Bronc 124]

they certainly seem to do better here than europe...which is great. but not believing that arabs pulled 9/11 is ridiculous. but then again muslims are really into conspiracy theories.

You got that right. A crackpot idea was circulated by Saudi Arabia after the 2004/12/26 tsunami that it was caused by a joint US/India undersea nuclear test (when there is a vast number of reasons that this would be implausible, not least of which is the fact that both US and India signed LTBT in 1963).

[homesick_american 1]

They weren't all Saudis...just for the record.

No, but only 4 out of the 19 hijackers were not from Saudi Arabia.

Yes, but they weren't *all* from there which is the point I was trying to make. I don't disagree that our relationship with Saudi Arabia and its people is somewhat schizophrenic.

[Saddle Bronc 124]

They weren't all Saudis...just for the record.

I don't approve of my country's "friendly" relations with Saudi Arabia, a country I consider to be incredibly backward and oppressive. We need energy independence now. Today. This minute.

Would dependence on NAFTA-partner Canada (tarsands) be acceptable? NAFTA could be used easily to promote in-bloc trade (including in raw materials such as crude). Transport costs: pipeline from Cold Lake/Ft. McMurray to Sweetgrass--afterwards, Yanks' responsibility.

[Saddle Bronc 124]

Yes, but they weren't *all* from there which is the point I was trying to make. I don't disagree that our relationship with Saudi Arabia and its people is somewhat schizophrenic.

No surprise, considering the way that Saudi Arabia was created (as a nation) in the first place: British Empire (incl. from various colonies such as India, Kenya, ...) troops under command of Gen. Edmund Allenby had hard-won this territory from the Ottoman (Turkish) Empire--and then T.L. Lawrence had given it away with strokes of pens.

[JODO 2]

All of the numbers were not bad, so at least it is a start. The 26% supporting suicide bombers attacking civilians is very disturbing though. It appears that older Muslims rejected such barbarity and that is a good place to build upon.