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Why is the K-1 considered a non-immigrant visa when in fact the beneficiary intends to move here?? I have always wondered that. And besides that, a fellow poster had questions about the DS-230 which is an immigrant application.

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Technically its a non-immigrant visa, you dont automatically get PR status upon entry. But you are able upon marriage to adjust status and attain PR status.

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Technically its a non-immigrant visa, you dont automatically get PR status upon entry. But you are able upon marriage to adjust status and attain PR status.

Exactly, K-1 is a non-immigrant visa, because it allows you to enter the U.S. territory just once with the purpose of marrying a USC. Does not give you a Permanent Residency right away. The beneficiary of a K-1 could intend (but not necessarily always) to live in the U.S. in which case, he'd have to apply for AOS to become a PR after the marriage takes place, or he if he has no intention to live in the U.S. he'd just go back to where he/she and his/her spouse will live.

In most cases people do intend to live in the U.S. In those cases, after applying for AOS you'll be become a conditional permanent resident for 2 years, if after those 2 years you're still married to your USC spouse you'll have to file another form and go to another interview and finally you'll receive an unconditional green card. So for what you can see, all of us who are just starting our I-129F process we have a long road ahead!

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02.01.2012 - 10 year GC Received

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Why is the K-3 visa considered a fianceé visa when you must demonstrate that you're already married in order to receive one? So an immigrating spouse is supposed to get a non-immigrant fianceé visa? Who thought THAT was a good idea?

There are historical and bureaucratic reasons that probably almost seemed reasonable at the time.

04 Apr, 2004: Got married

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29 Apr, 2004: I-129F NOA 1

13 Aug, 2004: I-130 Approved by CSC

28 Dec, 2004: I-130 Case Complete at NVC

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22 Jan, 2005: Flew home together! CCS->MIA->SFO

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30 Nov, 2006: I-751 Biometrics taken

05 Apr, 2007: I-751 approved, card production ordered

23 Jan, 2008: N-400 sent to CSC via certified mail

19 Feb, 2008: N-400 Biometrics taken

27 Mar, 2008: Naturalization interview notice received (NOA2 for N-400)

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Why is the K-3 visa considered a fianceé visa when you must demonstrate that you're already married in order to receive one? So an immigrating spouse is supposed to get a non-immigrant fianceé visa? Who thought THAT was a good idea?

There are historical and bureaucratic reasons that probably almost seemed reasonable at the time.

K3 is a non-immigrant visa, but not really a fianceé visa. You just use the same form as the fianceé visa. I remember researching this way back when the LIFE Act was new, and they were talking about how the K3 would take awhile to implement since they had to come up with a petition for it. Then they decided to let people petition for K3 using the fianceé visa form I129F since most of the info is the same. They just never went and created a separate K3 petition, just decided that we need to send the I129F to a special lock box in Chicago, IL to start the K3 process.

In short, K3 is not a fianceé visa, it just uses the petition designed for the fianceé visa so that they could start accepting K3 petitions quicker.

03/12/2007 - Married to my beautiful wife

04/16/2007 - Sent I-130 to VSC via USPS Express Mail

05/12/2007 - NOA1 received by snail mail after a loooong wait

05/14/2007 - Sent I-129F for K3 to Chicago Lockbox via USPS Express Mail

10/22/2007 - I129F APPROVED (161 days), I130 APPROVED (188 days)

11/08/2007 - I129F received at NVC, embassy case number generated.

11/13/2007 - I129F forwarded to embassy.

11/18/2007 - 129F petition received at embassy

01/09/2008 - finally, DOS gives me the interview date, April 16, 2007 (ouch)

01/23/2008 - never got packet 4, emailed embassy

04/11/2008 - picked up packet 4, did medical

04/14/2008 - medical report pickup, no problems

04/16/2008 - interview date- APPROVED!!!!!

04/18/2008 - both of us are home at last, POE JFK!

05/21/2008 - sent AOS and EAD

05/27/2008 - received NOA1 for AOS and for EAD

06/02/2008 - received Biometrics appt letter

06/19/2008 - Biometrics appointment scheduled - DONE

06/19/2008 - both AOS and EAD touched because of biometrics

07/29/2008 - EAD approved.

05/13/2009 - AOS Interview - APPROVED!/ Card production ordered email

05/18/2009 - Welcome Letter received

06/12/2009 - Second card production ordered email

06/19/2009 - Approval notice send email

06/22/2009 - Green Card received

04/09/2012 - Applied for Citizenship by Express Mailing N400 to NBC

04/10/2012 - N400 received by USCIS

06/23/2012 - Biometrics appointment

07/27/2012 - Appointment scheduled for N400 interview

09/05/2012 - Interview passed, oath ceremony completed, and Naturalization certificate received.

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Why is the K-3 visa considered a fianceé visa when you must demonstrate that you're already married in order to receive one? So an immigrating spouse is supposed to get a non-immigrant fianceé visa? Who thought THAT was a good idea?

There are historical and bureaucratic reasons that probably almost seemed reasonable at the time.

K3 is a non-immigrant visa, but not really a fianceé visa. You just use the same form as the fianceé visa. I remember researching this way back when the LIFE Act was new, and they were talking about how the K3 would take awhile to implement since they had to come up with a petition for it. Then they decided to let people petition for K3 using the fianceé visa form I129F since most of the info is the same. They just never went and created a separate K3 petition, just decided that we need to send the I129F to a special lock box in Chicago, IL to start the K3 process.

In short, K3 is not a fianceé visa, it just uses the petition designed for the fianceé visa so that they could start accepting K3 petitions quicker.

Actually the idea behind K-3 was a good idea! The objective of the LIFE ACT was to reduce the separations that the spouses of U.S. citizens have to go through while waiting abroad for an immigrant visa. The LIFE ACT (Legal Immigration Family Equity) expanded the K visa status, that was first only available to fiances, and now it includes spouses of U.S. citizens. With this provision, alien spouses of US Citizens enter the United States faster as nonimmigrants, and once they are in States they apply for immigrant status. But they no longer have to wait for an immigrant visa (which for what I understand takes a lot longer) away from their loved ones.

I agree with Urge to Rage, even when you use the same form for both visas, K-3 is not a fiance visa, it's a Spouse Visa. The procedure is for K-3 is a lot different from K-1. When applying for K-3 the USC (sponsor) must submit a I-130 form (Petition for Alien Relative) and only after the sponsor receives a receipt (Form I-797) to acknowledge the I-130 petition, he is able to submit Form I-129F. Once the I-129F is approved the spouse is able to travel to the US, and wait together for the approval of I-130 and apply later for the AOS. Other big difference is that K-3 is valid for 2 years and it allows you to exit and re-enter the US territory. That's something you can not do with a fiance visa.

APPLIED FOR NATURALIZATION 07/2021

08.01.2011 - I-751 SENT

08.05.2011 - Check cashed

08.08.2011- NOA Received

08.19.2011 - Biometrics Letter Received

09.12.2011 - Biometrics Appointment

01.27.2012 - Card production ordered

02.01.2012 - 10 year GC Received

07.25.2021 - N400 filed online

08.09.2021- Biometrics re-use notice

04.18.2022- Interview done at Minneapolis USCIS Local Office   ✔️ Received N-652 "Congratulations your application has been recommended for approval" during the interview.

05.19.2022- Oath Ceremony in MN

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