Immigration Reform March in Dallas

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Ok then...are YOU going to be the one cleaning office buildings, working at McDonald's, construction, lawn care, etc? How many "good ol boys" would be willing to do that kind of work for 5-8 dollars an hour? Would you all here on this board do that?? That's what there is to think about. Are you prepared to pay 5 dollars for a head of lettuce because the Americans won't pick vegetables for less than 15 bucks an hour? Dollar value menu goes up to 4 dollar value menu? How about the cell phone service that you pay 49.99 a month for? Will 100.00 a month be OK for that? I mean, the building cleaners for all those (insert wireless company here) facilities won't work for less than 12 dollars an hour. Imagine YOUR wages don't go up but every service and product goes up by 25-50%? That's the reality if all of you "SEND THEM BACK" folks get your way.

You're really falling for this bullshite, don't you? Newsflash: The vast majority of janitors, farm workers, food and beverage employees are US citizens, lawful residents, and documented foreign gues workers. We're talking upwards of 75 - 80%. Go ahead, look it up. When they raided meat packaging plants not too long ago, Americans stood in line for those jobs. I still pay the same for my chicken. ** this bull of "Jobs that Americans won't do". It's nonsense.

Employing illegals is not benefitting you, me or the American consumer. It benefits a few profiteers at the expense of you, me and the vast majority of Americans.

You say send them all back.

No. I say punish the profiteers, take their undue profits and fine them 10 times the amount of that. Put these enablers out of business and into jail. The illegals will not need to be sent home. They'll be on their way.

It's a catch-22....

No, it's a clear winner for the American worker.

[LaGreenEyes 0]

Ok then...are YOU going to be the one cleaning office buildings, working at McDonald's, construction, lawn care, etc? How many "good ol boys" would be willing to do that kind of work for 5-8 dollars an hour? Would you all here on this board do that?? That's what there is to think about. Are you prepared to pay 5 dollars for a head of lettuce because the Americans won't pick vegetables for less than 15 bucks an hour? Dollar value menu goes up to 4 dollar value menu? How about the cell phone service that you pay 49.99 a month for? Will 100.00 a month be OK for that? I mean, the building cleaners for all those (insert wireless company here) facilities won't work for less than 12 dollars an hour. Imagine YOUR wages don't go up but every service and product goes up by 25-50%? That's the reality if all of you "SEND THEM BACK" folks get your way.

You're really falling for this bullshite, don't you? Newsflash: The vast majority of janitors, farm workers, food and beverage employees are US citizens, lawful residents, and documented foreign gues workers. We're talking upwards of 75 - 80%. Go ahead, look it up. When they raided meat packaging plants not too long ago, Americans stood in line for those jobs. I still pay the same for my chicken. ** this bull of "Jobs that Americans won't do". It's nonsense.

Employing illegals is not benefitting you, me or the American consumer. It benefits a few profiteers at the expense of you, me and the vast majority of Americans.

You say send them all back.

No. I say punish the profiteers, take their undue profits and fine them 10 times the amount of that. Put these enablers out of business and into jail. The illegals will not need to be sent home. They'll be on their way.

It's a catch-22....

No, it's a clear winner for the American worker.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8...;show_article=1

WASHINGTON (AP) - The number of illegal immigrants in the United States has grown to as many as 12 million, and they now account for about one in every 20 workers, a new estimate says.

There are about 7.2 million undocumented workers in the U.S., or about 5 percent of the country's work force, the Pew report said.

It estimated that illegal immigrants fill a quarter of all agricultural jobs, 17 percent of office and house cleaning positions, 14 percent of construction jobs and 12 percent in food preparation.

"Especially if we look at the Mexicans, these are people with fairly low levels of formal education," Passel said. "They're not able to get licensing or credentials in the United States because of their status, so the kinds of jobs available to them in the United States are somewhat limited."

Business leaders and advocates for immigrants' rights argue that America's economy would collapse if all the illegal workers were deported.

Camarota said there would be plenty of Americans willing to accept jobs done by illegal immigrants if they paid adequate wages and benefits.

Adequate wages and benefits...ask any corporation what their definition of that is, and then ask the worker,,you will get 2 different sides 180 degrees apart, unfortunately. On that issue, the 2 sides will never agree.

I guess I could ask you the same question...what kind of bullshite are you falling for? And are you saying that you would be willing to do the work that they are doing for the wages they are doing it at? It all depends on where you live weather or not illegal workers are or are not in certain jobs. I don't recall mentioning a chicken processing plant but, I don't think 300 people out of one single plant would affect the nationwide meat prices. HOWEVER, 2 million agriculture workers suddenly replaced at double wage...yeah I think that may have an effect on prices just a lil' bit. Big business is what it is, s Profit is the main objective, and that's not going to change, like it or not. The minute prices on something go up the public moans and complains..doesn't matter what kind of business or product it is, illegal workers or not. If you have never complained about the rising prices of something, then you are a very special superhuman person. Heck in my business the price of a plane ticket goes up 20 bucks because of fuel and security costs, etc. and it's like the world is going to end. Forget the fact that people pay the same price to fly from NY to Miami as they did 20 years ago but I don't see anyone applauding the airlines for not hiring illegal workers and throwing 20 dollar bills out at them. When I was in high school 20 years ago, lots of kids worked at McD's....now..they are all too lazy or it's not cool enough to work there, god forbid should they be asked to show up to work on time..for 6 dollars an hour. The owner of the Dairy Queen near here can't even stay open a normal schedule because they can't get workers to work for more than a few weeks at fast food wages which is 6.50 an hour around here. How many people are sitting around on unemployment and welfare that could very well go out and get jobs...but they don't. Don't want to work too hard, don't want to go to school to get an education but want a job that pays 15 dollars an hour. I have a nut job neighbor that goes out and begs for yard work and goes to restaurants in the area and begs for food, but is perfectly heathly and able bodied enough to go get a job..he just doesn't. He'd rather ride his lawn mower around the neighborhood like he's in NASCAR. I think too many of us take for granted that we are fortunate enough to live where we do and we will never have to think of the extreme measures that people have gone through to get here. How about if there was a movement by American women against foreign wives on K1 visas, saying "dang foreign girls taking all of the eligable American men! That system should be outlawed!! Send them all back!!" I bet we all would be singing a different tune. All I am saying is..give them their own line too.

[pedroh 21]

Ok then...are YOU going to be the one cleaning office buildings, working at McDonald's, construction, lawn care, etc? How many "good ol boys" would be willing to do that kind of work for 5-8 dollars an hour? Would you all here on this board do that?? That's what there is to think about. Are you prepared to pay 5 dollars for a head of lettuce because the Americans won't pick vegetables for less than 15 bucks an hour? Dollar value menu goes up to 4 dollar value menu? How about the cell phone service that you pay 49.99 a month for? Will 100.00 a month be OK for that? I mean, the building cleaners for all those (insert wireless company here) facilities won't work for less than 12 dollars an hour. Imagine YOUR wages don't go up but every service and product goes up by 25-50%? That's the reality if all of you "SEND THEM BACK" folks get your way.

You're really falling for this bullshite, don't you? Newsflash: The vast majority of janitors, farm workers, food and beverage employees are US citizens, lawful residents, and documented foreign gues workers. We're talking upwards of 75 - 80%. Go ahead, look it up. When they raided meat packaging plants not too long ago, Americans stood in line for those jobs. I still pay the same for my chicken. ** this bull of "Jobs that Americans won't do". It's nonsense.

Employing illegals is not benefitting you, me or the American consumer. It benefits a few profiteers at the expense of you, me and the vast majority of Americans.

You say send them all back.

No. I say punish the profiteers, take their undue profits and fine them 10 times the amount of that. Put these enablers out of business and into jail. The illegals will not need to be sent home. They'll be on their way.

It's a catch-22....

No, it's a clear winner for the American worker.

actually you're wrong there.. yeah, Americans were in line waiting to get the jobs, but guess what, oh surprise.. "IT WAS TOO HARD FOR ME".. Americans have a very high rotation index in those plants, 1st place, african-americans.. I've seen it.. yea there's 50 more americanos every week, and guess what, after the 1st week, there's only 20 left, and from those 20, only 9 do a decent job, the others just fukc up and just delay the production (I know cuz I write them up)... and it's not my info, ask any HR of those big food plants, Smithfield, Purdue, Prestage, Mountaire, the plants are struggling after the raids, just Smithfield, the production went down to 60-70% of their original production before the raids (actually the production decreased after the raids, cuz people got skeered and quit, bout 400 employees)... so, maybe Americans want the jobs, they just can't cut the mustard? (in this case, they can't cut the chicken? or the pork).. before the raids, they were killing 35,000 hogs everyday.. now with the Americans, they can barely reach 30K

while, yes, indeed illegals benefit the plants, cuz they work like brainless zombies (bad illegals, they work too hard!).. closing one of those big plants would be a disaster for the towns around.. looks like american workers don't really appreciate the value of a good job (yea those pork plants don't pay bad, they actually pay good money)

Edited May 3, 2007 by pedroh

[homesick_american 1]

damn, if vj is a reflection of the feelings towards illegals..it is a sad statement......i have issues with them..but i do not HATE them as some do here.,..vj sheesh

I don't hate them. I just want them to go home.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Ok then...are YOU going to be the one cleaning office buildings, working at McDonald's, construction, lawn care, etc? How many "good ol boys" would be willing to do that kind of work for 5-8 dollars an hour? Would you all here on this board do that?? That's what there is to think about. Are you prepared to pay 5 dollars for a head of lettuce because the Americans won't pick vegetables for less than 15 bucks an hour? Dollar value menu goes up to 4 dollar value menu? How about the cell phone service that you pay 49.99 a month for? Will 100.00 a month be OK for that? I mean, the building cleaners for all those (insert wireless company here) facilities won't work for less than 12 dollars an hour. Imagine YOUR wages don't go up but every service and product goes up by 25-50%? That's the reality if all of you "SEND THEM BACK" folks get your way.

You're really falling for this bullshite, don't you? Newsflash: The vast majority of janitors, farm workers, food and beverage employees are US citizens, lawful residents, and documented foreign gues workers. We're talking upwards of 75 - 80%. Go ahead, look it up. When they raided meat packaging plants not too long ago, Americans stood in line for those jobs. I still pay the same for my chicken. ** this bull of "Jobs that Americans won't do". It's nonsense.

Employing illegals is not benefitting you, me or the American consumer. It benefits a few profiteers at the expense of you, me and the vast majority of Americans.

You say send them all back.

No. I say punish the profiteers, take their undue profits and fine them 10 times the amount of that. Put these enablers out of business and into jail. The illegals will not need to be sent home. They'll be on their way.

It's a catch-22....

No, it's a clear winner for the American worker.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8...;show_article=1

It estimated that illegal immigrants fill a quarter of all agricultural jobs, 17 percent of office and house cleaning positions, 14 percent of construction jobs and 12 percent in food preparation.

Thank you for providing the supporting stats to my point. I won't waste my time on the rest of your post. The salad picked by the illegal is not offered to you cheaper than that picked by an American. The meal prepared and served to you by an illegal is not cheaper than that prepared and served by an American. And so on and so forth. The person employing an illgal, however, is making a larger profit than the person that employs an American. I don't care about that former person as the larger profit is just something that the rest of nation shoulders. ** that enabler. Fine him out of business and jail his greedy #######. The economy will live and America will be stronger for it.

Edited May 3, 2007 by ET-US2004

[pedroh 21]

Ok then...are YOU going to be the one cleaning office buildings, working at McDonald's, construction, lawn care, etc? How many "good ol boys" would be willing to do that kind of work for 5-8 dollars an hour? Would you all here on this board do that?? That's what there is to think about. Are you prepared to pay 5 dollars for a head of lettuce because the Americans won't pick vegetables for less than 15 bucks an hour? Dollar value menu goes up to 4 dollar value menu? How about the cell phone service that you pay 49.99 a month for? Will 100.00 a month be OK for that? I mean, the building cleaners for all those (insert wireless company here) facilities won't work for less than 12 dollars an hour. Imagine YOUR wages don't go up but every service and product goes up by 25-50%? That's the reality if all of you "SEND THEM BACK" folks get your way.

You're really falling for this bullshite, don't you? Newsflash: The vast majority of janitors, farm workers, food and beverage employees are US citizens, lawful residents, and documented foreign gues workers. We're talking upwards of 75 - 80%. Go ahead, look it up. When they raided meat packaging plants not too long ago, Americans stood in line for those jobs. I still pay the same for my chicken. ** this bull of "Jobs that Americans won't do". It's nonsense.

Employing illegals is not benefitting you, me or the American consumer. It benefits a few profiteers at the expense of you, me and the vast majority of Americans.

You say send them all back.

No. I say punish the profiteers, take their undue profits and fine them 10 times the amount of that. Put these enablers out of business and into jail. The illegals will not need to be sent home. They'll be on their way.

It's a catch-22....

No, it's a clear winner for the American worker.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8...;show_article=1

It estimated that illegal immigrants fill a quarter of all agricultural jobs, 17 percent of office and house cleaning positions, 14 percent of construction jobs and 12 percent in food preparation.

Thank you for providing the supporting stats to my point. I won't waste my time on the rest of your post. The salad picked by the illegal is not offered to you cheaper than that picked by an American. The meal prepared and served to you by an illegal is not cheaper than that prepared and served by an American. And so on and so forth. The person employing an illgal, however, is making a larger profit than the person that employs an American. I don't care about that former person as the larger profit is just something that the rest of nation shoulders. ** that enabler. Fine him out of business and jail his greedy #######. The economy will live and America will be stronger for it.

not everywhere, illegals get paid the same as Americans, but somehow they do a better job (read my last post)..

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Ok then...are YOU going to be the one cleaning office buildings, working at McDonald's, construction, lawn care, etc? How many "good ol boys" would be willing to do that kind of work for 5-8 dollars an hour? Would you all here on this board do that?? That's what there is to think about. Are you prepared to pay 5 dollars for a head of lettuce because the Americans won't pick vegetables for less than 15 bucks an hour? Dollar value menu goes up to 4 dollar value menu? How about the cell phone service that you pay 49.99 a month for? Will 100.00 a month be OK for that? I mean, the building cleaners for all those (insert wireless company here) facilities won't work for less than 12 dollars an hour. Imagine YOUR wages don't go up but every service and product goes up by 25-50%? That's the reality if all of you "SEND THEM BACK" folks get your way.

You're really falling for this bullshite, don't you? Newsflash: The vast majority of janitors, farm workers, food and beverage employees are US citizens, lawful residents, and documented foreign gues workers. We're talking upwards of 75 - 80%. Go ahead, look it up. When they raided meat packaging plants not too long ago, Americans stood in line for those jobs. I still pay the same for my chicken. ** this bull of "Jobs that Americans won't do". It's nonsense.

Employing illegals is not benefitting you, me or the American consumer. It benefits a few profiteers at the expense of you, me and the vast majority of Americans.

You say send them all back.

No. I say punish the profiteers, take their undue profits and fine them 10 times the amount of that. Put these enablers out of business and into jail. The illegals will not need to be sent home. They'll be on their way.

It's a catch-22....

No, it's a clear winner for the American worker.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8...;show_article=1

It estimated that illegal immigrants fill a quarter of all agricultural jobs, 17 percent of office and house cleaning positions, 14 percent of construction jobs and 12 percent in food preparation.

Thank you for providing the supporting stats to my point. I won't waste my time on the rest of your post. The salad picked by the illegal is not offered to you cheaper than that picked by an American. The meal prepared and served to you by an illegal is not cheaper than that prepared and served by an American. And so on and so forth. The person employing an illgal, however, is making a larger profit than the person that employs an American. I don't care about that former person as the larger profit is just something that the rest of nation shoulders. ** that enabler. Fine him out of business and jail his greedy #######. The economy will live and America will be stronger for it.

not everywhere, illegals get paid the same as Americans, but somehow they do a better job (read my last post)..

That is what every profiteer of the status quo will claim. Even if true, I could not care less. Simply does not not matter. Again, if addt'l workers are needed, then it is up to Congress to come up with addt'l visa etc not for foreign nationals and American profiteers to decide that they're above the law.

[pedroh 21]

Ok then...are YOU going to be the one cleaning office buildings, working at McDonald's, construction, lawn care, etc? How many "good ol boys" would be willing to do that kind of work for 5-8 dollars an hour? Would you all here on this board do that?? That's what there is to think about. Are you prepared to pay 5 dollars for a head of lettuce because the Americans won't pick vegetables for less than 15 bucks an hour? Dollar value menu goes up to 4 dollar value menu? How about the cell phone service that you pay 49.99 a month for? Will 100.00 a month be OK for that? I mean, the building cleaners for all those (insert wireless company here) facilities won't work for less than 12 dollars an hour. Imagine YOUR wages don't go up but every service and product goes up by 25-50%? That's the reality if all of you "SEND THEM BACK" folks get your way.

You're really falling for this bullshite, don't you? Newsflash: The vast majority of janitors, farm workers, food and beverage employees are US citizens, lawful residents, and documented foreign gues workers. We're talking upwards of 75 - 80%. Go ahead, look it up. When they raided meat packaging plants not too long ago, Americans stood in line for those jobs. I still pay the same for my chicken. ** this bull of "Jobs that Americans won't do". It's nonsense.

Employing illegals is not benefitting you, me or the American consumer. It benefits a few profiteers at the expense of you, me and the vast majority of Americans.

You say send them all back.

No. I say punish the profiteers, take their undue profits and fine them 10 times the amount of that. Put these enablers out of business and into jail. The illegals will not need to be sent home. They'll be on their way.

It's a catch-22....

No, it's a clear winner for the American worker.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8...;show_article=1

It estimated that illegal immigrants fill a quarter of all agricultural jobs, 17 percent of office and house cleaning positions, 14 percent of construction jobs and 12 percent in food preparation.

Thank you for providing the supporting stats to my point. I won't waste my time on the rest of your post. The salad picked by the illegal is not offered to you cheaper than that picked by an American. The meal prepared and served to you by an illegal is not cheaper than that prepared and served by an American. And so on and so forth. The person employing an illgal, however, is making a larger profit than the person that employs an American. I don't care about that former person as the larger profit is just something that the rest of nation shoulders. ** that enabler. Fine him out of business and jail his greedy #######. The economy will live and America will be stronger for it.

not everywhere, illegals get paid the same as Americans, but somehow they do a better job (read my last post)..

That is what every profiteer of the status quo will claim. Even if true, I could not care less. Simply does not not matter. Again, if addt'l workers are needed, then it is up to Congress to come up with addt'l visa etc not for foreign nationals and American profiteers to decide that they're above the law.

I still think there's an economic impact, not only for the company but for the people that work for example in those plants.. like it's been happening where I work.. after the raid, people got scared and quit, bout 400 employees..a bunch of Americans got hired, unfortunately they have a very high rotation (so looks like they don't really want a job), and the ones who stay, only a few do a really good job.. so what happens, the plant produces crappy products that get returned, since the final product is crappy, they decide to lower the production, so everybody gets less hours, making everybody (legal and illegal workers) earn less money.. which impacts a lot in poor communities like the ones around here

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Ok then...are YOU going to be the one cleaning office buildings, working at McDonald's, construction, lawn care, etc? How many "good ol boys" would be willing to do that kind of work for 5-8 dollars an hour? Would you all here on this board do that?? That's what there is to think about. Are you prepared to pay 5 dollars for a head of lettuce because the Americans won't pick vegetables for less than 15 bucks an hour? Dollar value menu goes up to 4 dollar value menu? How about the cell phone service that you pay 49.99 a month for? Will 100.00 a month be OK for that? I mean, the building cleaners for all those (insert wireless company here) facilities won't work for less than 12 dollars an hour. Imagine YOUR wages don't go up but every service and product goes up by 25-50%? That's the reality if all of you "SEND THEM BACK" folks get your way.

You're really falling for this bullshite, don't you? Newsflash: The vast majority of janitors, farm workers, food and beverage employees are US citizens, lawful residents, and documented foreign gues workers. We're talking upwards of 75 - 80%. Go ahead, look it up. When they raided meat packaging plants not too long ago, Americans stood in line for those jobs. I still pay the same for my chicken. ** this bull of "Jobs that Americans won't do". It's nonsense.

Employing illegals is not benefitting you, me or the American consumer. It benefits a few profiteers at the expense of you, me and the vast majority of Americans.

You say send them all back.

No. I say punish the profiteers, take their undue profits and fine them 10 times the amount of that. Put these enablers out of business and into jail. The illegals will not need to be sent home. They'll be on their way.

It's a catch-22....

No, it's a clear winner for the American worker.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8...;show_article=1

It estimated that illegal immigrants fill a quarter of all agricultural jobs, 17 percent of office and house cleaning positions, 14 percent of construction jobs and 12 percent in food preparation.

Thank you for providing the supporting stats to my point. I won't waste my time on the rest of your post. The salad picked by the illegal is not offered to you cheaper than that picked by an American. The meal prepared and served to you by an illegal is not cheaper than that prepared and served by an American. And so on and so forth. The person employing an illgal, however, is making a larger profit than the person that employs an American. I don't care about that former person as the larger profit is just something that the rest of nation shoulders. ** that enabler. Fine him out of business and jail his greedy #######. The economy will live and America will be stronger for it.

not everywhere, illegals get paid the same as Americans, but somehow they do a better job (read my last post)..

That is what every profiteer of the status quo will claim. Even if true, I could not care less. Simply does not not matter. Again, if addt'l workers are needed, then it is up to Congress to come up with addt'l visa etc not for foreign nationals and American profiteers to decide that they're above the law.

I still think there's an economic impact, not only for the company but for the people that work for example in those plants.. like it's been happening where I work.. after the raid, people got scared and quit, bout 400 employees..a bunch of Americans got hired, unfortunately they have a very high rotation (so looks like they don't really want a job), and the ones who stay, only a few do a really good job.. so what happens, the plant produces crappy products that get returned, since the final product is crappy, they decide to lower the production, so everybody gets less hours, making everybody (legal and illegal workers) earn less money.. which impacts a lot in poor communities like the ones around here

If a business cannot make it operating within the law (as competing businesses in America clearly show can be done - remember that for every business that employs illegals, there are many comparable businesses that don't and still turn a profit and stay afloat), then that business ought to make room for the competitor that will. That's how the market operates.

[prpplague 0]

just a note, i did attend the march in dallas. i attended solely to try to get someone in the media to listen to me. i spoke to around 6 reporters, who were initially interested in me as i was one of the few caucasians there. I explaining that i was not a supporter of amensty for illegals, and that i wanted reforms in the process to make it easier for families of US citizens to be together. i was not surprised by the fact that 4 of the 6 reporters were totally uninterested in my story after i told them we were trying to go through the process legally. the other 2 seemed interested, but never aired anything about the legal immigration reform in their stories. the media has continued to ignore the fact that the immigration process is broken in favor of pushing ####### about illegals getting amnesty.

[metta 0]

just a note, i did attend the march in dallas. i attended solely to try to get someone in the media to listen to me. i spoke to around 6 reporters, who were initially interested in me as i was one of the few caucasians there. I explaining that i was not a supporter of amensty for illegals, and that i wanted reforms in the process to make it easier for families of US citizens to be together. i was not surprised by the fact that 4 of the 6 reporters were totally uninterested in my story after i told them we were trying to go through the process legally. the other 2 seemed interested, but never aired anything about the legal immigration reform in their stories. the media has continued to ignore the fact that the immigration process is broken in favor of pushing ####### about illegals getting amnesty.

It is so true. The legal process of immigration and the obviouslyeven the normal business of issuing passport to citizens is broken and backlogged.

Last week, a member of my staff was to leave for overseas trip on a Sunday. She applied for her passport in January which normally takes 45 days from application to issuence. Tuesday before her Sunday departure, the passport was still stuck in New Orleans. So with the help from our Congressman's office she flew to DC Wednesday worked her way through the maze that was Foggy Bottom and finally got it. Necessary docs were faxed from New Orleans and passport was issued onsite.

Poor girl, she was really panic-stricken !!

Edited May 15, 2007 by metta

[homesick_american 1]

just a note, i did attend the march in dallas. i attended solely to try to get someone in the media to listen to me. i spoke to around 6 reporters, who were initially interested in me as i was one of the few caucasians there. I explaining that i was not a supporter of amensty for illegals, and that i wanted reforms in the process to make it easier for families of US citizens to be together. i was not surprised by the fact that 4 of the 6 reporters were totally uninterested in my story after i told them we were trying to go through the process legally. the other 2 seemed interested, but never aired anything about the legal immigration reform in their stories. the media has continued to ignore the fact that the immigration process is broken in favor of pushing ####### about illegals getting amnesty.

That's not surprising at all.

Was that cow Gloria Campos there? She spoke at a big journalism thingy I did when I was in high school and boy, was she ever a megab!tch. Clarice Tinsley was way nicer.

[kimjoshian 0]

Illegals are illegals. Period!