Birth certificate

[F2a2016 0]

My spouse was born in Islamabad. I am about to submit documents to NVC. 

 

I have a copy of my spouse birth certificate from CDA. Will it be okay to submit that? or should we get a birth certificate from NADRA?

 

 

[Lazybones18 261]

On 12/1/2017 at 4:58 PM, F2a2016 said:

My spouse was born in Islamabad. I am about to submit documents to NVC. 

 

I have a copy of my spouse birth certificate from CDA. Will it be okay to submit that? or should we get a birth certificate from NADRA?

 

 

Get NADRA.. its better

 

atleast thats what i am hearing

[Kastrs 723]

You should get the NADRA birth certificate

 

[pm5k 127]

Just one piece of advice regarding NADRA birth certificates - make sure they do not check the "late entry" or "late registration" box.  That is only for people who did not have a birth certificate.  Depending on the specific case, having "late registration" on the NADRA birth certificate can be problematic.  

[Lazybones18 261]

4 hours ago, pm5k said:

Just one piece of advice regarding NADRA birth certificates - make sure they do not check the "late entry" or "late registration" box.  That is only for people who did not have a birth certificate.  Depending on the specific case, having "late registration" on the NADRA birth certificate can be problematic.  

My wife born 1992 nadra certificate says late 

 

What problems ? Can you explain ?

[pm5k 127]

What is the date on the certificate?

[pm5k 127]

"Late registration" means that the person did not register their birth within a certain amount of time (not sure what the rules are, generally it is a few days after birth, maybe up to a few months).  

 

Here is an example:

A child is born, and the parents never formally registered the birth.  Child needs to go to school, so they make a birth certificate.  This birth is a "late entry" into the database, since they were not registered on time.

 

Late registrations are dubious.  How does USCIS know it is real?  

 

NADRA is notorious for doing this with people.  I personally know people who have gone with their original KMC certificates (made a few days after they were born) and then NADRA gives them a certificate with "late entry" written on it.  This is ridiculous, since the person was not a late registration, but is now labeled as such. 

[pm5k 127]

So in your wife's case, she was born in 1992.  Let's say the NADRA certificate says "late entry" 01-01-2010.  USCIS/NVC sees this and thinks "hmm...this woman had no birth certificate or birth registration for 18 years?  how do we know this is even legitimate?"

[Lazybones18 261]

14 minutes ago, pm5k said:

What is the date on the certificate?

my wife was born in 1992

 

date on certificate is oct 2017 - i just got it made few months ago

 

the Birth certificate has her father/mothers name on it with NICOP numbers and a lot of other detail

 

anyways, i have her original birth certificate from union council which is old and in Urdu - i also got this translated... + i have family registration certificate (FRC)  .. she did o/a levels so her degrees has no birth date on it ... but i will try to pull other school records

 

no where on any forum on website i see late entry as an issue .. i just saw some old posts from you only so maybe your case was a exception ?

 

what you are saying might be somewhat true in cases in cases with other red flags ?

 

anyways, i will carry secondary evidence to the interview.. hope it doesnt get rejected at NVC stage atleast

 

 

The US government should trust/recognize a document that NADRA issues regardless its late or not ... if they dont trust a official NADRA certificate why do they trust a passport issued by the government ? makes no sense.. nothing on NVC or US embassy pakistan website it says they dont accept late entry certificate

 

i am curious to know how many people do you know who have trouble with late entry certificate... i searched googled and saw no posts except you ..

 

would you mind linking ?

 

 

[pm5k 127]

I spoke to an immigration lawyer, who stated that births that are registered late (as in, not within a few months of birth) always have the potential to raise red flags.  

 

I know of one case personally that had issues, but they submitted school documents and affidavits to support the date of birth, and these were accepted.  That case may have been exceptional, but I still think it is wrong that NADRA writes "late andraaj" on birth certificates that are not actually being entered in late.  

 

Considering that you have a lot of supporting evidence, I suspect you will be fine.  

[pm5k 127]

Here is an example of what can happen with a late registered birth certificate.  This case was for someone's parent, but the same can happen with other relationships as well.

 

 

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/510075-rfe-on-birth-certificate-and-the-option-of-dna-test/

 

[Zelixx 302]

Hi,I'm from pakistan & waiting for the interview letter .My petition has been approved & required documents have been sent to NVC ,my question is " Late entry" has been marked on my Nadra birth certificate as my parents never got my birth registered from Union Council but now i have got itregistered with nadra.I have heard it's problematic.Embassy requires more supporting documents at the time of interview ?

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Hi,I'm from pakistan & waiting for the interview letter .My petition has been approved & required documents have been sent to NVC ,my question is " Late entry" has been marked on my Nadra birth certificate as my parents never got my birth registered from Union Council but now i have got itregistered with nadra.I have heard it's problematic.Embassy requires more supporting documents at the time of interview ?

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[Lazybones18 261]

5 hours ago, Zelixx said:

Hi,I'm from pakistan & waiting for the interview letter .My petition has been approved & required documents have been sent to NVC ,my question is " Late entry" has been marked on my Nadra birth certificate as my parents never got my birth registered from Union Council but now i have got itregistered with nadra.I have heard it's problematic.Embassy requires more supporting documents at the time of interview ?

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Hi,I'm from pakistan & waiting for the interview letter .My petition has been approved & required documents have been sent to NVC ,my question is " Late entry" has been marked on my Nadra birth certificate as my parents never got my birth registered from Union Council but now i have got itregistered with nadra.I have heard it's problematic.Embassy requires more supporting documents at the time of interview ?

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My wife got her visa issued with a late entry marked on her birth certificate ... no questions asked ... as long as NAdra official document you are good 

 

but just in case carry secondary evidence like matriculation with DOB and ID cards cuz with Islamabad embassy you nevertheless know 

[Zelixx 302]

12 minutes ago, Lazybones18 said:

My wife got her visa issued with a late entry marked on her birth certificate ... no questions asked ... as long as NAdra official document you are good 

 

but just in case carry secondary evidence like matriculation with DOB and ID cards cuz with Islamabad embassy you nevertheless know 

Okay thankyou .

[Zelixx 302]

One more question did your wife get the Nadra marriage certificate ,verified from the Minsitry of foreign affairs?