Insufficient amount of the evidence for ROC?

[Lettyana 70]

Hi dear VisaJourney members,

 

I have looked at a lot of topics in this thread and now I'm getting very nervous and scared that we don't have enough evidence. I'm planning to send out the package in 2,5 weeks and maybe I will be able to get some additional evidence in a meantime.

 

Here is what we have so far:

1) Joint tax returns for 2015 & 2016. We have submitted the one for 2014 last time.

2) Both our names are on the lease agreement

3) Both our names are on the financial documents for the car

4) The car is registered on both of us

5) The car insurance for 2 cars states both our names

6) Both our names on renters insurance

7) We used to have a joint bank account, but we moved. I will try to request the statements from our former bank. 

8) I will add my husband to my bank account, we do not have a joint one yet since we moved (October 2016)

9) I have tickets for our trip to Russia in 2015. I guess I will have to translate it

10) I have Greyhound and C&J tickets for the same date with both our names

10) DLs with the same address in NH and our current DLs with the same address in PA

11) We do not have bills under both of our names, but we have bills addressed to either me or him with the same address on it. Also, I can present a copy of the checks from my bank account which shows that I pay a half of the bills.

12) We have photos with our families and friends and some greeting cards

13) I do have a few things which I am not sure about:

- I have a receipt for PS4 which I bought for my hubby as a Christmas present. 

- He might have a receipt from Zales for the jewelry he bought for me as a Christmas present

- He lost his wedding ring at work and I ordered him a new one online, I have a conversation with the seller regarding the size of the ring archived

- I have a couple of confirmations from booking.com which we used to book the hotels for our trips, but it usually states only one name, but a room for 2 people though (and one of those confirmations is in Russian, so I will have to translate it too)

- I have a payment confirmation that I paid the court related fees for my husband about 2 years ago

 

 

I feel like we are going to fail with such a small amount of the evidence.

 

I'm looking forward to hearing your opinion and will highly appreciate hearing about your experience if you had a similar list of evidence.

 

Thank you !!!

Edited May 2, 2017 by Lettyana

[nightingalejules 678]

This looks like a reasonable amount of evidence - do try to track down your old bank statements, and add each other to the accounts you have now. You could add some photos of the two of you if you wanted... 

Also I've heard of some people being asked in an RFE for wills and powers of attorney naming each other. You can create those for free online and sign them and include them.

Put in a cover letter explanations for anything you don't have that you think you "should". 

 

Finally, you won't be denied outright, even if they think you don't have enough evidence. They'll issue an RFE, and then you'll know what they want to see and you can find a way to send it - by then you'll have several months to a year's worth of bank statements from your new joint account, etc, etc. 

Even if they don't see sufficient evidence on paper, they won't likely deny you... they'll call you in for an interview and you can prove your ongoing relationship in person.

 

Only 5% total of all I-751 applications are denied, and many of those are presumably divorce waiver applications. The massive majority of applications are eventually approved, so try not to worry too much.

[Lettyana 70]

nightingalejules

Thank you so much for responding. I am getting very nervous since it feels like we do not have enough compare to the other people lists. We moved to another state in October and we threw away a lot of old paperwork, which I now think was a very stupid thing to do.

 

Is there some additional evidence you can think about which we can gather in this 2 weeks? 

 

[Lettyana 70]

I was thinking since we don't have any bills with both our names on it, should I attach the receipts maybe? I am paying some of the bills, even so, it is under his name. Would this be useful at all?

[Umka36 781]

What about medical/life insurance? I included my retirement document that lists my wife as the beneficiary. If you happen to have any children, include their birth certificate. Honestly, I think you are fine with what you got, but that's just my opinion.

[Lettyana 70]

Umka36

 

Thank you very much for responding! We do not have any life or medical insurance as well as no children yet. I will try to obtain a power of attorney document. I hope we will be fine, but my list seems so short and it makes me panic 

[Lettyana 70]

Good evening VJ members! We are planning to send everything on Tuesday. I'm a little bit worried we don't have enough, since I threw a lot of papers away during the process of moving to another state, and we do have some gaps in our joint account bank statements, when we simply only had separate accounts. 

 

Please, take a look at our cover letter. Do you guys think we have a sufficient amount of evidence? Thank you!

 

Enclosed, please, find the following documents to verify the status of our marriage and ongoing relationship:

 

Folder 1:

·         Citizens Bank Personal Check, in the amount of $680.00 for payment of the I-751 Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence + Biometric fee

·         Copy of USCIS Form I-551 front and back (Permanent Resident Card)

·         Original Form I-751 filled and signed by J and A

 

Folder 2:

·         Copy of Certificate of marriage

·         Copies of A and J former driver’s license showing former joint residence at “Our Address”

·         Copies of A and J current driver's licenses showing current joint residence at address

·         Two original affidavits attesting to the bona fide nature of our marriage

 

Folder 3:

·         2014 Tax return transcript from the IRS  showing jointly filed tax return

·         2015 Tax return transcript from the IRS  showing jointly filed tax return

·         2016 Tax return transcript from the IRS  showing jointly filed tax return

 

 

Folder 4:

·         Copies of our joint checking account statements with “Bank of America” from March 2015 through November 2015 with transaction history

·         Copies of our joint checking account statements with “SIS Bank” from March 2016 through January 2017 with transaction history.

·         Copy of our joint checking account statements with “Penn Community Bank” for the months of May and June 2017 with transaction history.

 

Folder 5:

·         Copy of lease agreement listing us as joint tenants at our former residence at “Our Address”, beginning May 25,  2014

·         Copy of lease agreement listing us as joint tenants at “Our Address”, beginning October 2017

·         Copy of State Farm Insurance company Declaration Page listing us as jointly covered under Renters insurance policy beginning Mar 1, 2016 until Mach 1, 2017 for our former residence at  “Our Address”

·         Copy of Amercan Bankers insurance company Declaration Page listing us as jointly covered under Renters insurance policy beginning November 03, 2016 until Novemeber 3, 2017 for our current residence at  “Our Address”

·         Copy of an official SIS Bank check showing A as a payer of the security deposit for BlaBlaBla Apartments

·         Copies of the rent payment receipts for the last 6 months showing us both submitting the payments

 

Folder 6:

·         Copy of a letter from Toyota Financial Services regarding our joint car loan account

·         Copy of Motor Vehicle Purchase Contract with Lexus of BlaBlaBla stating both of us as a purchasers

·         Copy of a Certificate of Title application showing both our names as owners of the vehicle

·         Copy of State of New Hampshire car registration showing both our names

·         Copy of the receipt from Pennsylvania Auto Tags stating both of us as a purchasers

·         Copy of State of Pennsylvania car registration showing both our names

 

Folder 7:

·         Copy of State Farm Insurance company Declaration Page of the Car Insurance Policy beginning March 1, 2016 until September 1, 2016 addressed to both of us at our former residence at  “Our Address”

·         Copy of New Hampshire Insurance cards listing us as jointly insured under State Farm Car Insurance policy beginning September 1, 2016 until March 1, 2017

·         Copy of a cancellation request letter from State Farm Insurance company addressed to both of us at our current residence at Our address

·         Copies of  Pennsylvania Insurance cards listing us as jointly insured under Geico Car Insurance policy for 2014 Toyota Corolla beginning November 3, 2016 until November 3, 2017

·         Copies of  Pennsylvania Insurance cards listing us as jointly insured under Geico Car Insurance policy for 1996 Honda Accord beginning April 4, 2017 until November 3, 2017

 

 

Folder 8:

·         Copies of 2 bills addressed to A and 2 bills addressed to J showing the same address at our former residence at Our address

·         Copies of the bills stating the same address at our current residence at Our address

·         Copies of the utility bills addressed to J at our current address with the copies of the payments made by checks written by A attached

 

Folder 9:

·         Copy of the front page of J passport and a copy of a valid Russian Federation Visa

·         Copies of the eTicket receipts  for A and J trip to Russia with the translations attached

·         Copy of the Booking Summary page for A and J trip to Russia with the translation attached

·         Copies of the boarding passes for A and J for the flight from Russia to the USA

·         Copies of A and J International driving permits

 

Folder 10:

·         Copy of a booking receipt at America’s Best Value Inn motel for A birthday

·         Copy of a bus ticket receipts to NYC for J and A

·         Copy of a booking receipt at Knights Inn for the trip to NYC

·         Copy of a booking receipt at Ramada New Hope for the trip to Pennsylvania

·         Copy of a booking receipt at Motel 6 Leominster for 1 night during the moving from NH to PA with the translation attached

 

Folder 11:

·         Copies of the first pages of the letters from Health Insurance Market Place for A and J showing the same address

·         Copy of the Court Fees summary for J with the copy of a payment confirmation showing A as a payer

·         Copy of the receipt  for J Christmas present from A (Sony Play Station 4)

·         Copy of the receipt fro A Christmas present from J (jewelry from Zales jewelry store)

 

Folder 12:

·         Copies of photos of us together at various places throughout the years

·         Greeting cards from friends and family addressed to both of us

 

 

[Lettyana 70]

Hey guys, I finally managed ti pull everything together and we are planning on sending the package tomorrow. Here is our Cover letter. Does it seem like we have a sufficient amount of evidence?

 

I really hope to see some opinions. Thank you!

 

Enclosed, please, find the following documents to verify the status of our marriage and ongoing relationship: 

  

Folder 1: 

·         Citizens Bank Personal Check, in the amount of $680.00 for payment of the I-751 Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence + Biometric fee 

·         Copy of USCIS Form I-551 front and back (Permanent Resident Card) 

·         Original Form I-751 filled and signed by J and A 

  

Folder 2: 

·         Copy of Certificate of marriage 

·         Copies of A and J former driver’s license showing former joint residence at “Our Address” 

·         Copies of A and J current driver's licenses showing current joint residence at address 

·         Two original affidavits attesting to the bona fide nature of our marriage 

  

Folder 3: 

·         2014 Tax return transcript from the IRS  showing jointly filed tax return 

·         2015 Tax return transcript from the IRS  showing jointly filed tax return 

·         2016 Tax return transcript from the IRS  showing jointly filed tax return 

  

  

Folder 4: 

·         Copies of our joint checking account statements with “Bank of America” from March 2015 through November 2015 with transaction history 

·         Copies of our joint checking account statements with “SIS Bank” from March 2016 through January 2017 with transaction history. 

·         Copy of our joint checking account statements with “Penn Community Bank” for the months of May and June 2017 with transaction history. 

  

Folder 5: 

·         Copy of lease agreement listing us as joint tenants at our former residence at “Our Address”, beginning May 25,  2014 

·         Copy of lease agreement listing us as joint tenants at “Our Address”, beginning October 2017 

·         Copy of State Farm Insurance company Declaration Page listing us as jointly covered under Renters insurance policy beginning Mar 1, 2016 until Mach 1, 2017 for our former residence at  “Our Address” 

·         Copy of Amercan Bankers insurance company Declaration Page listing us as jointly covered under Renters insurance policy beginning November 03, 2016 until Novemeber 3, 2017 for our current residence at  “Our Address” 

·         Copy of an official SIS Bank check showing A as a payer of the security deposit for BlaBlaBla Apartments 

·         Copies of the rent payment receipts for the last 6 months showing us both submitting the payments 

  

Folder 6: 

·         Copy of a letter from Toyota Financial Services regarding our joint car loan account 

·         Copy of Motor Vehicle Purchase Contract with Lexus of BlaBlaBla stating both of us as a purchasers 

·         Copy of a Certificate of Title application showing both our names as owners of the vehicle 

·         Copy of State of New Hampshire car registration showing both our names 

·         Copy of the receipt from Pennsylvania Auto Tags stating both of us as a purchasers 

·         Copy of State of Pennsylvania car registration showing both our names 

  

Folder 7: 

·         Copy of State Farm Insurance company Declaration Page of the Car Insurance Policy beginning March 1, 2016 until September 1, 2016 addressed to both of us at our former residence at  “Our Address” 

·         Copy of New Hampshire Insurance cards listing us as jointly insured under State Farm Car Insurance policy beginning September 1, 2016 until March 1, 2017 

·         Copy of a cancellation request letter from State Farm Insurance company addressed to both of us at our current residence at Our address 

·         Copies of  Pennsylvania Insurance cards listing us as jointly insured under Geico Car Insurance policy for 2014 Toyota Corolla beginning November 3, 2016 until November 3, 2017 

·         Copies of  Pennsylvania Insurance cards listing us as jointly insured under Geico Car Insurance policy for 1996 Honda Accord beginning April 4, 2017 until November 3, 2017 

  

  

Folder 8: 

·         Copies of 2 bills addressed to A and 2 bills addressed to J showing the same address at our former residence at Our address 

·         Copies of the bills stating the same address at our current residence at Our address 

·         Copies of the utility bills addressed to J at our current address with the copies of the payments made by checks written by A attached 

  

Folder 9: 

·         Copy of the front page of J passport and a copy of a valid Russian Federation Visa 

·         Copies of the eTicket receipts  for A and J trip to Russia with the translations attached 

·         Copy of the Booking Summary page for A and J trip to Russia with the translation attached 

·         Copies of the boarding passes for A and J for the flight from Russia to the USA 

·         Copies of A and J International driving permits 

  

Folder 10: 

·         Copy of a booking receipt at America’s Best Value Inn motel for A birthday 

·         Copy of a bus ticket receipts to NYC for J and A 

·         Copy of a booking receipt at Knights Inn for the trip to NYC 

·         Copy of a booking receipt at Ramada New Hope for the trip to Pennsylvania 

·         Copy of a booking receipt at Motel 6 Leominster for 1 night during the moving from NH to PA with the translation attached 

  

Folder 11: 

·         Copies of the first pages of the letters from Health Insurance Market Place for A and J showing the same address 

·         Copy of the Court Fees summary for J with the copy of a payment confirmation showing A as a payer 

·         Copy of the receipt  for J Christmas present from A (Sony Play Station 4) 

·         Copy of the receipt fro A Christmas present from J (jewelry from Zales jewelry store) 

  

Folder 12: 

·         Copies of photos of us together at various places throughout the years 

·         Greeting cards from friends and family addressed to both of us 
 

[Lettyana 70]

CookieCat

 

Thanks you so much for responding and for giving us all an example of a great cover letter!

 

Did I posted it to the wrong topic? I thought the main Cover letter topic is whee you post your cover letter for a review. Sry!

Edited June 12, 2017 by Lettyana

[Lettyana 70]

Thank you CookieCat!

[Dashinka 26,183]

Your list looks typical to me.  Not everyone has exactly the same list, the point is showing the progression of your marriage.  If they want more, they will tell you.

 

Good Luck, and sit back for a rather long wait.

Edited June 13, 2017 by Bill & Katya

[Lettyana 70]

19 hours ago, CookieCat said:

Since you already have your own thread and posted the same topic here, I merged the other post with this one. We discourage members from posting multiple identical topics in order to keep the website organized. No worries though, and good luck on your application!

CookieCat,

 

Please, feel free to close/delete this thread, if you need to, all the questions were answered and the reviews received. I sent the package this morning, now the wait begins.

 

 

Thanks, Bill & Katya!

[promenad 9]

Letyyana 

I hope you have enough evidence cause i have pretty much half of what you have and im sending anyway!

Good Luck!

[lucardo3 220]

We didn`t even have half of what you sent and got approved with no RFE. I think your list is well enough for evidence.

[Lettyana 70]

On 15.06.2017 at 11:16 AM, promenad said:

Letyyana 

I hope you have enough evidence cause i have pretty much half of what you have and im sending anyway!

Good Luck!

I hope so too  Good luck to you guys!

 

On 16.06.2017 at 5:15 PM, lucardo3 said:

We didn`t even have half of what you sent and got approved with no RFE. I think your list is well enough for evidence.

Thanks a lot, lucardo3! I was hoping to hear from someone who went through the process already.