About To Sent ROC - Last Minute Questions Re: Form & Evidence!

[Erica & L 50]

Hi guys,

I'm about to send off my ROC package this Monday (Tuesday at the latest), with a little over a month left until my GC expires in July. Would have sent it off earlier, unfortunately with my cat becoming sick and work issues, it took me a little longer to get everything together.

Anywho, I posted my check-list a few weeks ago and got the go-ahead my list is acceptable. But I have a few additional questions...

Question Re: Evidence

1. I have my Learners Permit but it has my old address on it (different than my spouse's license which has our CURRENT address on it) and I have to go for my full licence but have not been able to yet. Should I include it in my package?

2. A personal check is okay to send the money, correct?

Questions Re: Form (Sorry if these seem silly/asked already.)

1. When is it more appropriate to use N/A over None? For example, when it asks about dependent children, I have “none” but it also is technically "not applicable" because I do, in fact, have no children.

2. If there are several lines that are N/A or none, do you have to put N/A or “None” on every line or just on the first line for that section?

3. For the “place of marriage” do you put the city, state and country?

4. Under the section for "Conditional Resident Address" it says “In care of name” and I'm assuming that means my full name, the conditional resident?

5. If you select “no” to your physical address being different than your mailing address, it doesn’t let you put anything in the space, such as N/A or none, so technically it would be left blank, is that acceptable?

6. At the very end under the "Additional Info" I have to add some previous addresses. Is there a specific format to write these? I just did them in order from most recent to oldest (there are only 2) like so:

Street Number & Name

City, State

ZIP

6. For hair colour, do they want your natural hair colour? I dye my hair all the time it’s almost never my natural colour.

7. A huge part of the application is reserved for if you had any representation filling out your application, aka a lawyer, so even if that isn't applicable in our case, do we just leave it all blank but still print out the entire application and include it?

Thanks in advance!!

Edited June 12, 2016 by Erica & Lily

[Illiria 980]

I'm sorry you cat wasn't well, I hope they are better now.

For the drivers permit and license Include both if you have any official documents with your wife's name on for your old address and any official documents with your name on for your new address.

Personal check is fine, we used mine as mine had our new address on them

I put None for children

I didn't put anything on these as put none for dependent children but I might have been wrong on that so look for other people's opinions as well.

I just put city and state we got married as it was obvious on the country. If it might be ambiguous put the country as well.

Yes it won't let you fill it in as the answer tells them that the Mailing address section isn't needed.

The form has a last page that you can use for additional info. You need to put in the question number and section and add the additional information

I would put in your natural hair colour. just be consistent with any official form

I left the translator and lawyer signature section blank

[Raccoon_CA 5]

Hi guys,

I'm about to send off my ROC package this Monday (Tuesday at the latest), with a little over a month left until my GC expires in July. Would have sent it off earlier, unfortunately with my cat becoming sick and work issues, it took me a little longer to get everything together.

Anywho, I posted my check-list a few weeks ago and got the go-ahead my list is acceptable. But I have a few additional questions...

Question Re: Evidence

1. I have my Learners Permit but it has my old address on it (different than my spouse's license which has our CURRENT address on it) and I have to go for my full licence but have not been able to yet. Should I include it in my package? A Learner's Permit is not part of the required documentation for an ROC application. Therefore, you would only need it as proof of bona fide, which in this case does not seem to help your case if showing a different address. However, if you took your spouse's name and your new married name is reflected on your Learner's Permit, I would personally include it.

2. A personal check is okay to send the money, correct? Yes, make sure to address it to "U.S. Department of Homeland Security."

Questions Re: Form (Sorry if these seem silly/asked already.)

1. When is it more appropriate to use N/A over None? For example, when it asks about dependent children, I have “none” but it also is technically "not applicable" because I do, in fact, have no children. Either one will make zero difference. However, let's say that you do not have a middle name, then I would encourage you to leave the line blank so that they won't put your middle name as "None."

2. If there are several lines that are N/A or none, do you have to put N/A or “None” on every line or just on the first line for that section? Just the first line of the section is fine.

3. For the “place of marriage” do you put the city, state and country? If you were married in the U.S., I would put City / State; if you were married abroad, I would put City / Region (if applicable) / Foreign Country.

4. Under the section for "Conditional Resident Address" it says “In care of name” and I'm assuming that means my full name, the conditional resident? That's only if you want your mail to be sent at someone else's address. Leave it blank if using your own address.

5. If you select “no” to your physical address being different than your mailing address, it doesn’t let you put anything in the space, such as N/A or none, so technically it would be left blank, is that acceptable? Yes, leaving it blank is perfectly fine.

6. At the very end under the "Additional Info" I have to add some previous addresses. Is there a specific format to write these? I just did them in order from most recent to oldest (there are only 2) like so:

Street Number & Name

City, State

ZIP

After each address, add "From month/year to month/year" to specify the chronology.

6. For hair colour, do they want your natural hair colour? I dye my hair all the time it’s almost never my natural colour. Put what your other official documents state, such as a Passport, Driver's License or Learner's Permit, so that it is consistent with the other documents you submit.

7. A huge part of the application is reserved for if you had any representation filling out your application, aka a lawyer, so even if that isn't applicable in our case, do we just leave it all blank but still print out the entire application and include it? You cannot omit pages of the application and still need to submit this portion, even though you leave it all blank. That part is only if someone else's than you filled out the Form (not necessarily an attorney).

Thanks in advance!!

Hope this helps! Good luck and hope your kitty gets better.

[Erica & L 50]

You are not required to submit your DL copy but it's a nice piece of government ID to show joint address. You obviously need it to drive as well so I'd encourage you to include it in your I-751 package, if possible. As for the permit with the old address, I would include it only if you can also include your spouse's previous DL with the same old address. This would show you both lived together in your former address. Otherwise don't bother including the permit.

I actually ONLY have my permit. I don't have my full license yet, haven't had a chance to get it. I have my spouse's old driver's license w/ the same address as my permit, which shows we lived at the same previous address, but she has since her renewed license with our current address on it.

Thanks everyone!

[Erica & L 50]

I think I didn't explain myself properly. I know you don't have a driver's license yet with the new address. So in my previous response, I was suggesting getting one that would show your new address and wait till you get it to send it along with your I-751 package, if possible. If you do get a new DL, then also submit spouse's latest DL with joint current address.

Now regardless of whether you decide to get a new DL or not, you can submit your permit with former address along with your spouse's old DL also showing joint former address. Hope it makes sense!

Gotcha! Yeah I don't think I"ll have time, so I will just send my permit and her old license.