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Hi guys,

I'm about to send off my ROC package this Monday (Tuesday at the latest), with a little over a month left until my GC expires in July. Would have sent it off earlier, unfortunately with my cat becoming sick and work issues, it took me a little longer to get everything together.

Anywho, I posted my check-list a few weeks ago and got the go-ahead my list is acceptable. But I have a few additional questions...

Question Re: Evidence

1. I have my Learners Permit but it has my old address on it (different than my spouse's license which has our CURRENT address on it) and I have to go for my full licence but have not been able to yet. Should I include it in my package?

2. A personal check is okay to send the money, correct?

Questions Re: Form (Sorry if these seem silly/asked already.)

1. When is it more appropriate to use N/A over None? For example, when it asks about dependent children, I have “none” but it also is technically "not applicable" because I do, in fact, have no children.


2. If there are several lines that are N/A or none, do you have to put N/A or “None” on every line or just on the first line for that section?

3. For the “place of marriage” do you put the city, state and country?


4. Under the section for "Conditional Resident Address" it says “In care of name” and I'm assuming that means my full name, the conditional resident?


5. If you select “no” to your physical address being different than your mailing address, it doesn’t let you put anything in the space, such as N/A or none, so technically it would be left blank, is that acceptable?


6. At the very end under the "Additional Info" I have to add some previous addresses. Is there a specific format to write these? I just did them in order from most recent to oldest (there are only 2) like so:

Street Number & Name

City, State

ZIP

6. For hair colour, do they want your natural hair colour? I dye my hair all the time it’s almost never my natural colour.

7. A huge part of the application is reserved for if you had any representation filling out your application, aka a lawyer, so even if that isn't applicable in our case, do we just leave it all blank but still print out the entire application and include it?

Thanks in advance!!

Edited by Erica & Lily

AOS:

Green Card Received in 168 Days

ROC

06/17/2016: ROC Mailed via USPS Express in Large Flate-Rate Box to Vermont Service Center (P.O. Box)

06/18/2016: ROC Delivered by USPS

06/22/2016: Check Cashed

06/24/2016: NOA1 Received Dated 06/20/2016

07/09/2016: ASC Appointment Notice Received Dated 07/02/2016 & Scheduled 07/21/2016

07/21/2016: Biometrics Successfully Completed (Birmingham)

05/18/2017: InfoPass Appointment - 1-Year Extension Stamp Received

06/06/2017: ROC Approval Letter Received Dated 05/30/2017

06/14/2017: Green Card Delivered!

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I'm sorry you cat wasn't well, I hope they are better now.

For the drivers permit and license Include both if you have any official documents with your wife's name on for your old address and any official documents with your name on for your new address.

Personal check is fine, we used mine as mine had our new address on them

I put None for children

I didn't put anything on these as put none for dependent children but I might have been wrong on that so look for other people's opinions as well.

I just put city and state we got married as it was obvious on the country. If it might be ambiguous put the country as well.

Yes it won't let you fill it in as the answer tells them that the Mailing address section isn't needed.

The form has a last page that you can use for additional info. You need to put in the question number and section and add the additional information

I would put in your natural hair colour. just be consistent with any official form

I left the translator and lawyer signature section blank


K-1 Met:2002 Dating :2003 I-129F Sent : 2013-06-01 I-129F NOA2 : 2013-08-20 Medical: 2013-12-20 Interview Date : 2014-01-22 POE: 2014-02-19 Wedding: 2014-03-18

AOS/EAD Date Filed : 2014-04-04 BioAppt: 2014-05-13 EAD in Production: 2014-07-08 Interview date: 2014-07-14 Green Card received: 2014-07-19

ROC Date Filed: 2016-04-26 Cheque Cashed: 2016-05-10 NOA1: 2016-04-28 Biometrics: 2016-06-30 Approved: 11-08-2016 Green Card Received: 11-18-2016

 

Citizenship Date Filed: 2017-04-18 Cheque Cashed: 2017-04-24- NOA1:2017-04-21  Biometrics: 2017-05-19 Inline: 2017-07-12 Interview Date: 2018-02-13 Oath: 2018-03-15

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Hi guys,

I'm about to send off my ROC package this Monday (Tuesday at the latest), with a little over a month left until my GC expires in July. Would have sent it off earlier, unfortunately with my cat becoming sick and work issues, it took me a little longer to get everything together.

Anywho, I posted my check-list a few weeks ago and got the go-ahead my list is acceptable. But I have a few additional questions...

Question Re: Evidence

1. I have my Learners Permit but it has my old address on it (different than my spouse's license which has our CURRENT address on it) and I have to go for my full licence but have not been able to yet. Should I include it in my package? A Learner's Permit is not part of the required documentation for an ROC application. Therefore, you would only need it as proof of bona fide, which in this case does not seem to help your case if showing a different address. However, if you took your spouse's name and your new married name is reflected on your Learner's Permit, I would personally include it.

2. A personal check is okay to send the money, correct? Yes, make sure to address it to "U.S. Department of Homeland Security."

Questions Re: Form (Sorry if these seem silly/asked already.)

1. When is it more appropriate to use N/A over None? For example, when it asks about dependent children, I have “none” but it also is technically "not applicable" because I do, in fact, have no children. Either one will make zero difference. However, let's say that you do not have a middle name, then I would encourage you to leave the line blank so that they won't put your middle name as "None."

2. If there are several lines that are N/A or none, do you have to put N/A or “None” on every line or just on the first line for that section? Just the first line of the section is fine.

3. For the “place of marriage” do you put the city, state and country? If you were married in the U.S., I would put City / State; if you were married abroad, I would put City / Region (if applicable) / Foreign Country.

4. Under the section for "Conditional Resident Address" it says “In care of name” and I'm assuming that means my full name, the conditional resident? That's only if you want your mail to be sent at someone else's address. Leave it blank if using your own address.

5. If you select “no” to your physical address being different than your mailing address, it doesn’t let you put anything in the space, such as N/A or none, so technically it would be left blank, is that acceptable? Yes, leaving it blank is perfectly fine.

6. At the very end under the "Additional Info" I have to add some previous addresses. Is there a specific format to write these? I just did them in order from most recent to oldest (there are only 2) like so:

Street Number & Name

City, State

ZIP

After each address, add "From month/year to month/year" to specify the chronology.

6. For hair colour, do they want your natural hair colour? I dye my hair all the time it’s almost never my natural colour. Put what your other official documents state, such as a Passport, Driver's License or Learner's Permit, so that it is consistent with the other documents you submit.

7. A huge part of the application is reserved for if you had any representation filling out your application, aka a lawyer, so even if that isn't applicable in our case, do we just leave it all blank but still print out the entire application and include it? You cannot omit pages of the application and still need to submit this portion, even though you leave it all blank. That part is only if someone else's than you filled out the Form (not necessarily an attorney).

Thanks in advance!!

Hope this helps! Good luck and hope your kitty gets better.

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You are not required to submit your DL copy but it's a nice piece of government ID to show joint address. You obviously need it to drive as well so I'd encourage you to include it in your I-751 package, if possible. As for the permit with the old address, I would include it only if you can also include your spouse's previous DL with the same old address. This would show you both lived together in your former address. Otherwise don't bother including the permit.


 

 



07/09/2008: F-1 Interview - Successful
05/01/2013: (L) Married (L)

AOS from F-1:
07/09/2013: AOS package (I-130/I-485/I-756/I-131) fedexed
09/25/2013: AOS Interview with my husband at Milwaukee, WI
03/03/2014: AOS Approved

I-751 Removal of Conditions:

11/13/2015: Received reminder notice dated 11/08 from USCIS to apply for ROC
Day 00 - 12/04/2015: Mailed I-751 package to CSC via USPS Priority Mail
Day 03 - 12/07/2015: I-751 package delivered
Day 05 - 12/09/2015: Check cashed
Day 07 - 12/11/2015: NOA1 received dated 12/07/15
Day 22 - 12/26/2015: Biometric appointment notice received dated 12/19/15
Day 35 - 01/08/2016: Biometric appointment

Day 235 - 07/26/2016: Approved (E-notification of Card Production)

Day 238 - 07/29/2016: Status changed to 'Card Was Mailed to Me'

Day 241 - 08/01/2016: CSC returned original docs that were submitted at the time of application.

Day 241 - 08/01/2016: New status update 'Card was picked up by the United States Postal Service' Priority Mail 2-Day with tracking number provided.

Day 243 - 08/03/2016: Received 10 year Green Card

Day 255 - 08/15/2016: Received NOA2 with approval dated 07/26/2016

Click here for a sample of my cover letter, list of evidence, package assembly & shipping box

Click here for a sample of my I-751 notarized affidavit from a friend

 

 

N-400 Naturalization:

12/03/2016: Eligible

Day 00: 12/12/2016 Mailed N-400 to Phoenix, AZ lockbox via USPS Priority Express

Day 01: 12/13/2016 N-400 application delivered

Day 03: 12/15/2016 Credit card charged

Day 07: 12/19/2016 Text & e-mail notification received with a NBC receipt #

Day 11: 12/23/2016 NOA received via mail with priority date 12/13/16

Day 16: 12/28/2016 Received E-mail notification reg. biometrics scheduling

Day 19: 12/31/2016 Received Biometric notice via mail with notice date 12/24/2016

Day 32: 01/13/2017 Biometric appointment

Day 53: 02/03/2017 Received e-mail notification stating I am "in line" for interview scheduling

Day 144: 05/05/2017 Filed an e-request that interview notice was not yet mailed to me

Day 148: 05/09/2017 Received e-mail notification that interview has been scheduled after being in line for 95 days

Day 151: 05/12/2017 Received N-400 Interview notice via USPS

Day 183: 06/13/2017 N-400 Interview at USCIS Milwaukee, WI field office (Approved!) ***To read about my interview experience, click here***

Day 192: 06/22/2017 Received e-mail notification stating I am placed in line for oath ceremony

Day 206: 07/06/2017 Received e-mail notification stating oath ceremony notice was mailed

Day 210: 07/10/2017 Received oath ceremony notice (N-445) via USPS

Day 227: 07/27/2017 Oath Ceremony at Milwaukee, WI!

Dual citizen (France & U.S.A) / OCI card holder

 

Day 00: 07/27/2017 U.S. passport application at Milwaukee, WI (routine processing)

Day 05: 08/01/2017 Passport application locator number provided

Day 06: 08/02/2017 Checks cashed

Day 12: 08/08/2017 Received 2 e-mails stating that passport processing is over and it has been mailed with tracking # provided

Day 15: 08/11/2017 Received passport book via Priority Mail

Day 18: 08/14/2017 Received passport card via First Class Mail

Day 22: 08/18/2017 Received naturalization certificate back via Priority Mail / Updated citizenship status with SSA
 

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You are not required to submit your DL copy but it's a nice piece of government ID to show joint address. You obviously need it to drive as well so I'd encourage you to include it in your I-751 package, if possible. As for the permit with the old address, I would include it only if you can also include your spouse's previous DL with the same old address. This would show you both lived together in your former address. Otherwise don't bother including the permit.

I actually ONLY have my permit. I don't have my full license yet, haven't had a chance to get it. I have my spouse's old driver's license w/ the same address as my permit, which shows we lived at the same previous address, but she has since her renewed license with our current address on it.

Thanks everyone!


AOS:

Green Card Received in 168 Days

ROC

06/17/2016: ROC Mailed via USPS Express in Large Flate-Rate Box to Vermont Service Center (P.O. Box)

06/18/2016: ROC Delivered by USPS

06/22/2016: Check Cashed

06/24/2016: NOA1 Received Dated 06/20/2016

07/09/2016: ASC Appointment Notice Received Dated 07/02/2016 & Scheduled 07/21/2016

07/21/2016: Biometrics Successfully Completed (Birmingham)

05/18/2017: InfoPass Appointment - 1-Year Extension Stamp Received

06/06/2017: ROC Approval Letter Received Dated 05/30/2017

06/14/2017: Green Card Delivered!

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I think I didn't explain myself properly. I know you don't have a driver's license yet with the new address. So in my previous response, I was suggesting getting one that would show your new address and wait till you get it to send it along with your I-751 package, if possible. If you do get a new DL, then also submit spouse's latest DL with joint current address.

Now regardless of whether you decide to get a new DL or not, you can submit your permit with former address along with your spouse's old DL also showing joint former address. Hope it makes sense!


 

 



07/09/2008: F-1 Interview - Successful
05/01/2013: (L) Married (L)

AOS from F-1:
07/09/2013: AOS package (I-130/I-485/I-756/I-131) fedexed
09/25/2013: AOS Interview with my husband at Milwaukee, WI
03/03/2014: AOS Approved

I-751 Removal of Conditions:

11/13/2015: Received reminder notice dated 11/08 from USCIS to apply for ROC
Day 00 - 12/04/2015: Mailed I-751 package to CSC via USPS Priority Mail
Day 03 - 12/07/2015: I-751 package delivered
Day 05 - 12/09/2015: Check cashed
Day 07 - 12/11/2015: NOA1 received dated 12/07/15
Day 22 - 12/26/2015: Biometric appointment notice received dated 12/19/15
Day 35 - 01/08/2016: Biometric appointment

Day 235 - 07/26/2016: Approved (E-notification of Card Production)

Day 238 - 07/29/2016: Status changed to 'Card Was Mailed to Me'

Day 241 - 08/01/2016: CSC returned original docs that were submitted at the time of application.

Day 241 - 08/01/2016: New status update 'Card was picked up by the United States Postal Service' Priority Mail 2-Day with tracking number provided.

Day 243 - 08/03/2016: Received 10 year Green Card

Day 255 - 08/15/2016: Received NOA2 with approval dated 07/26/2016

Click here for a sample of my cover letter, list of evidence, package assembly & shipping box

Click here for a sample of my I-751 notarized affidavit from a friend

 

 

N-400 Naturalization:

12/03/2016: Eligible

Day 00: 12/12/2016 Mailed N-400 to Phoenix, AZ lockbox via USPS Priority Express

Day 01: 12/13/2016 N-400 application delivered

Day 03: 12/15/2016 Credit card charged

Day 07: 12/19/2016 Text & e-mail notification received with a NBC receipt #

Day 11: 12/23/2016 NOA received via mail with priority date 12/13/16

Day 16: 12/28/2016 Received E-mail notification reg. biometrics scheduling

Day 19: 12/31/2016 Received Biometric notice via mail with notice date 12/24/2016

Day 32: 01/13/2017 Biometric appointment

Day 53: 02/03/2017 Received e-mail notification stating I am "in line" for interview scheduling

Day 144: 05/05/2017 Filed an e-request that interview notice was not yet mailed to me

Day 148: 05/09/2017 Received e-mail notification that interview has been scheduled after being in line for 95 days

Day 151: 05/12/2017 Received N-400 Interview notice via USPS

Day 183: 06/13/2017 N-400 Interview at USCIS Milwaukee, WI field office (Approved!) ***To read about my interview experience, click here***

Day 192: 06/22/2017 Received e-mail notification stating I am placed in line for oath ceremony

Day 206: 07/06/2017 Received e-mail notification stating oath ceremony notice was mailed

Day 210: 07/10/2017 Received oath ceremony notice (N-445) via USPS

Day 227: 07/27/2017 Oath Ceremony at Milwaukee, WI!

Dual citizen (France & U.S.A) / OCI card holder

 

Day 00: 07/27/2017 U.S. passport application at Milwaukee, WI (routine processing)

Day 05: 08/01/2017 Passport application locator number provided

Day 06: 08/02/2017 Checks cashed

Day 12: 08/08/2017 Received 2 e-mails stating that passport processing is over and it has been mailed with tracking # provided

Day 15: 08/11/2017 Received passport book via Priority Mail

Day 18: 08/14/2017 Received passport card via First Class Mail

Day 22: 08/18/2017 Received naturalization certificate back via Priority Mail / Updated citizenship status with SSA
 

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I think I didn't explain myself properly. I know you don't have a driver's license yet with the new address. So in my previous response, I was suggesting getting one that would show your new address and wait till you get it to send it along with your I-751 package, if possible. If you do get a new DL, then also submit spouse's latest DL with joint current address.

Now regardless of whether you decide to get a new DL or not, you can submit your permit with former address along with your spouse's old DL also showing joint former address. Hope it makes sense!

Gotcha! Yeah I don't think I"ll have time, so I will just send my permit and her old license. :)


AOS:

Green Card Received in 168 Days

ROC

06/17/2016: ROC Mailed via USPS Express in Large Flate-Rate Box to Vermont Service Center (P.O. Box)

06/18/2016: ROC Delivered by USPS

06/22/2016: Check Cashed

06/24/2016: NOA1 Received Dated 06/20/2016

07/09/2016: ASC Appointment Notice Received Dated 07/02/2016 & Scheduled 07/21/2016

07/21/2016: Biometrics Successfully Completed (Birmingham)

05/18/2017: InfoPass Appointment - 1-Year Extension Stamp Received

06/06/2017: ROC Approval Letter Received Dated 05/30/2017

06/14/2017: Green Card Delivered!

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