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Just starting the process for the CR1/IR1 Visa. This website has been a great help. I think we have more or less figured out the USCIS I-130 process. However we are having an issue with the I-864(the AOS) and want to make sure we have the correct information before proceeding any further. There seem to be a lot of threads for the I-864 but we haven’t been able to find something relevant to our case.

The USC in our case is living abroad and not working. Hence we need a joint sponsor. We have managed to find someone who is willing to be the joint sponsor. However the person is not currently working but has some investments in real estate. We are still trying to clarify the matter with the joint sponsor but our current understanding is as follows. The Joint sponsor owns the real estate asset through a company where he is the only owner. The company has no other business besides buying and selling real estate. The property the joint sponsor owns is worth 5x the poverty threshold. Would the tax assessment of the property be sufficient along with the proof of ownership of the company?

The property is currently listed for sale for 15X the property threshold however my understanding is that the tax assessment is generally lower than this value. Secondly if the tax assessment is less than the required threshold can we submit a property evaluation instead to prove the value of the asset.

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Hey Guys

Just starting the process for the CR1/IR1 Visa. This website has been a great help. I think we have more or less figured out the USCIS I-130 process. However we are having an issue with the I-864(the AOS) and want to make sure we have the correct information before proceeding any further. There seem to be a lot of threads for the I-864 but we havent been able to find something relevant to our case.

The USC in our case is living abroad and not working. Hence we need a joint sponsor. We have managed to find someone who is willing to be the joint sponsor. However the person is not currently working but has some investments in real estate. We are still trying to clarify the matter with the joint sponsor but our current understanding is as follows. The Joint sponsor owns the real estate asset through a company where he is the only owner. The company has no other business besides buying and selling real estate. The property the joint sponsor owns is worth 5x the poverty threshold. Would the tax assessment of the property be sufficient along with the proof of ownership of the company?

The property is currently listed for sale for 15X the property threshold however my understanding is that the tax assessment is generally lower than this value. Secondly if the tax assessment is less than the required threshold can we submit a property evaluation instead to prove the value of the asset.

Bear in mind the assets you list need to be able to be made liquid within 12 months if needed, without causing hardship on the sponsor. So if it's a house someone is living in it might not be accepted. I've seen reports of people being turned away to find a new sponsor based on this .

We are filing from abroad in the same situation as you and are doing our "assets" based on savings account funds.

Got married: 26th Sep 2013 

I-130 Petition Process:

Sent petition to USCIS Chicago lockbox (via in-laws to put check in US$): 11 Mar, 2016

NOA1: 24 Mar, 2016 (email notification 30 Mar. Hardcopy 11 Apr)

Service Centre: NEBRASKA

NOA2: 3rd Aug 2016

Petition sent to NVC: 18th Aug 2016

NVC Stage

Case number assigned: 8th Sep 2016

Paid AOS Fee: 9th Sep 2016

Paid IV Fee: 14th Sep 2016

DS-260 submitted: 25th Jan 2017

AOS & IV Package sent: 25th Jan 2017

Expedite requested: 25th Jan 2017

Expedite approved (consulate only): 1st Feb 2017

Scan Date: 31st Jan 2017

Case Complete: 14th April 2017 (10 weeks 4 days)

Full expedite approved (bypass NVC to send file to embassy), however too late as I already had case complete 17th Apr 2017

Case arrived at Embassy: 21st April 2017

P4 letter received: 26th April 2017 (expedite at embassy stage so this came from the consulate, not NVC)

Medical date: 26th April 2017

Interview date: 4th May 2017 APPROVED!!

Visa received: 8th May 2017 

POE (entered the USA): 15th May 2017 

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As they are company-held assets, it is unlikely that they would be acceptable; depends on the structure of the company. Companies are normally set-up to ensure that personal debts or obligations (like the I-864) do not become company debts, i.e., the government could not go after the company resources of an I-864 sponsor, even if he is the only owner of the company.

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Thanks for the information guys. It seems like it would be smart to get another co-sponsor as we checked our local embassy information and they seems to prefer income to assets. So even if we get past the NVC stage we should have a co-sponsor lined up.

We have talked to a couple of people in regarding this and they have some questions.

Firstly someone mentioned that if you sponsor someone they can’t sponsor someone else for 10 years? Is this the case? Our understanding was that if the person has sufficient income above the poverty guidelines they can sponsor as many people as they want. Is there a guidelines or legal document that clarifies this

Secondly if the person is sponsoring someone does the beneficiary get added to the household size for any subsequent sponsorship?

Finally are there any tax implications for the sponsor. Do they have to keep mentioning that they sponsored someone on their tax returns etc? If the beneficiary doesn’t take any means tested benefits can they basically ignore the i-864 .

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If you have previously sponsored someone that you are still responsible for your household size increases by that person ( or people if you sponsored more than one )

This will not be over quickly. You will not enjoy this.

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Our I-864 was based solely on assets. Whether it's accepted or not depends on the type of asset and the embassy you're going through.

If your joint sponsor is already sponsoring an immigrant, that person also need to be added to the I-864 when calculating the poverty guidelines.

Technically, the joint sponsor is financially responsible for the person they sponsor. Whether or not the beneficiary can sue for financial support is another story.

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USCIS Stage


September 8th 2014 - Filed I-130 with Nebraska Service Center


September 16th 2014 - NOA1 received


March 2nd 2015 - NOA2 received :dancing:



NVC Stage


March 28th 2015 - Choice of agent complete & AOS fee paid


April 17th 2015 - IV fee paid


May 1st 2015 - Sent in IV application


May 12th 2015 - Sent in AOS and IV documents


May 18th 2015 - Scan Date


June 18th 2015 - Checklist received


June 22nd 2015 - Checklist response sent to NVC


June 25th 2015 - Put for Supervisor Review


Sept 15th 2015 - Request help from Texas US Senator Cornyn and his team


Sept 23rd 2015 - Our case is moved from supervisor review to NVC's team for dealing with Senator requests


Nov 4th 2015 - CASE COMPLETE!!!! :dancing:



Embassy Stage


Dec 16th 2015 - Medical exam


Dec 21st 2015 - Interview


Dec 21st 2015 - 221(g) issued at interview for updated forms


Jan 13th 2016 - Mailed our reply to the 221(g) to the US Embassy, received and CEAC updated the next morning


Jan 20th 2016 - Embassy require more in-depth info on asset for i-864


Feb 1st 2016 - Sent more in-depth info on assets as requested. Received the next morning


Feb 16th 2016 - Visa has been issued :dancing: :dancing: :dancing: :dancing: :dancing:



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April 5th 2016 - POE Newark. No questions asked.


April 14th 2016 - SSN received


May 10th 2016 - First day at my new job :dancing:


May 27th 2016 - Green Card received


June 7th 2016 - Got my Texas driver's license

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