Minneapolis Muslim Cashiers refuse to scan pork products

[peezey 0]

The entire country is set up to make accommodations for Christians. (Just look at the holidays on the calendar.)

I see nothing wrong with it. The overwhelming majority of Americans are Christians.

Any 'rights' that non-Christians have here have been granted to those people by Christians.

They should be grateful and show a little respect.

You've got to be frickin kidding me.

[peezey 0]

Try living a christian/jewish life style in a mulim country.... see how far they are willing to accommodate you.....

Kez

Yeah, like in Morocco that has a non-sharia legal system for non-muslims, jewish temples all over the country and quite a few museums. Oh, oh, and the cemetaries. And anything else. Damn, that's terribly unaccommodating.

[peezey 0]

So if ME countries were to be accommodating of Christians everyone would change their mind on this matter?

No, that is their business how they run their country. This is America. We decide how we run things here. We are very tolerant of other cultures here. We allow anyone to live however they want. However it isn't right for the majority to give up our culture because of a minority that doesn't like it. If a Muslim wants to open a store and not sell pork or booze no one is going to go into that store and insist that they sell it.

in that "we" happen to be millions of Muslims, by the way. Real, live, American Muslims.

[peezey 0]

I've never read about a Jew refusing to sell pork products.

If you don't want to sell pork then don't get a job a a regular grocery store (go to a halal one). It's like a stripper refusing to take her clothes off after she was hired.

Get off your collective liberal high horse and use some common sense for once.

Gee, I wonder why? Hmm....let's see, is it because people don't harbor an unnatural and unfounded fear of Jews? So anything to accommodate them doesn't make the flipping news??? Maybe? Since the article clearly states there have been accommodations made about Saturday work, among other things, who exactly is being referred to there?

[Mirorgate 0]

I've never read about a Jew refusing to sell pork products.

If you don't want to sell pork then don't get a job a a regular grocery store (go to a halal one). It's like a stripper refusing to take her clothes off after she was hired.

Get off your collective liberal high horse and use some common sense for once.

Gee, I wonder why? Hmm....let's see, is it because people don't harbor an unnatural and unfounded fear of Jews? So anything to accommodate them doesn't make the flipping news???

sure they do. all the time. one even runs a country.

[peezey 0]

I've never read about a Jew refusing to sell pork products.

If you don't want to sell pork then don't get a job a a regular grocery store (go to a halal one). It's like a stripper refusing to take her clothes off after she was hired.

Get off your collective liberal high horse and use some common sense for once.

Gee, I wonder why? Hmm....let's see, is it because people don't harbor an unnatural and unfounded fear of Jews? So anything to accommodate them doesn't make the flipping news???

sure they do. all the time. one even runs a country.

We happen to be talking about the so-called tolerant US, so what are you on about?

Edited March 17, 2007 by peezey

[Mirorgate 0]

I've never read about a Jew refusing to sell pork products.

If you don't want to sell pork then don't get a job a a regular grocery store (go to a halal one). It's like a stripper refusing to take her clothes off after she was hired.

Get off your collective liberal high horse and use some common sense for once.

Gee, I wonder why? Hmm....let's see, is it because people don't harbor an unnatural and unfounded fear of Jews? So anything to accommodate them doesn't make the flipping news???

sure they do. all the time. one even runs a country.

We happen to be talking about the so-called tolerant US, so what are you on about?

People in general as you stated above. bolded emphasis. they all seem to be irrational, and doesnt just happen to be here either. but since everyone wants to make it an "us v them" circucmstance... by all means.. carry on.

[luvaLimey 0]

Personally, If you're buying pork, I think it's awfully rude to step into a checkout lane being manned by someone who is so very obviously Muslim. She was wearing a headscarf. It shouldn't have been any surprise at all that she wouldn't want to touch a package that contained pork.

I've lived in a Muslim country, and one that was very accommodating to non-Muslims, as there was a large Buddhist population in the city as well as the largest Hindu population outside of India. In the grocery store, they had a non-halal meat counter, which was usually staffed by Chinese women. We bought our ham and bacon there. Then we'd leave it in the cart while the Muslim cashier scanned the rest of our purchases. I remember I once forgot to pay for the ham I was getting at the non-halal counter, and the cashier stopped what she was doing when she got to it. I realized what I'd done and apologized to her and asked if I should pick it up to put it in the bag. She used the scanning gun to ring it up, then asked me to pick it up and put it in a bag. I felt so embarrassed for forgetting, but she was very sweet and friendly, and we resolved the issue.

I honestly don't' think this is something to complain about. If the cashier is obviously Muslim, go to another checkout lane.

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Personally, If you're buying pork, I think it's awfully rude to step into a checkout lane being manned by someone who is so very obviously Muslim.

rofl.

[GaryC 7]

So if ME countries were to be accommodating of Christians everyone would change their mind on this matter?

No, that is their business how they run their country. This is America. We decide how we run things here. We are very tolerant of other cultures here. We allow anyone to live however they want. However it isn't right for the majority to give up our culture because of a minority that doesn't like it. If a Muslim wants to open a store and not sell pork or booze no one is going to go into that store and insist that they sell it.

in that "we" happen to be millions of Muslims, by the way. Real, live, American Muslims.

Thats right, you are part of the "we" I was talking about. You are free to live your life the way you want to. If you don't want to shop in a non-halal store then no one is forcing you. If you don't want to touch something you consider unclean then that is your right. But if you go to work in the check out lane of a shop-n-save then you have to expect to check out hot dogs and ham. It's your choice. But it's also my choice to buy these things if I want to without worrying about the check out person not wanting to serve me. This is America. Whether you like it or not the vast majority of people here eat pork and drink alcohol. This is what it means to live in America. It's something you have to accept and expect.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Gary - you support the free market right? What makes you think that this won't "work itself out" like the healthcare system?

[GaryC 7]

Gary - you support the free market right? What makes you think that this won't "work itself out" like the healthcare system?

What left field did that come from?

Ok, I will explain this so even you will understand. If the government stays out of it then yes it will work itself out. The Muslims will start their own stores to cater to the ones that want to buy halal foods. Then we get what we want and they get what they want. The free market wins. But if the government sticks it's nose into things we will end up with halal and non-halal lanes at the supermarket.

It has already shown that it works. Ever seen a Kosher store? The Jewish people started them to fill a need without imposing their customs onto us. That is what the Muslims should do. Thats the free market in action. Understand?

Edited March 17, 2007 by Iniibig ko si Luz forever

[Alex+R 0]

Gary - you support the free market right? What makes you think that this won't "work itself out" like the healthcare system?

What left field did that come from?

Ever seen a Kosher store? The Jewish people started them to fill a need without imposing their customs onto us. That is what the Muslims should do. Thats the free market in action. Understand?

Sure, we have one kosher market in Minneapolis. We also have a section in most of the grocery stores in my part of town. Is that imposing my culture on you?

I feel like you are saying that the solution is for every culture to segregate themselves and then we'll be fine. Muslims can have their own grocery stores, right? As long as they stay out of the "shop n save" (is this a real store, no idea)?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

It's ok Gary even I understand I just don't think this is such a widespread problem that it justifies all this outrage. These days you only have to insert the word "muslim" into a sentence to conjure up a lot of resentment and set the net curtains aflutter. That's kind of what these sorts of news stories are intended to do, but is this sensationalism representative of some organised movement to subvert American culture? I'm not so sure that a handful of douchebags who refuse to do the job they are paid to do amount to some sort of 'ideological terrorism'.

Lou Dobbs and Bill O'Reilly might sell books on the basis of fictional wars of semantics - but it doesn't necessarily translate into a real-life experience. So far only one person here has claimed to have experienced this kind of thing and that in a "muslim" country. I guess the question still stands - have you directly experienced the form discrimination described in the OP article. I haven't...

[GaryC 7]

Gary - you support the free market right? What makes you think that this won't "work itself out" like the healthcare system?

What left field did that come from?

Ever seen a Kosher store? The Jewish people started them to fill a need without imposing their customs onto us. That is what the Muslims should do. Thats the free market in action. Understand?

Sure, we have one kosher market in Minneapolis. We also have a section in most of the grocery stores in my part of town. Is that imposing my culture on you?

I feel like you are saying that the solution is for every culture to segregate themselves and then we'll be fine. Muslims can have their own grocery stores, right? As long as they stay out of the "shop n save" (is this a real store, no idea)?

No, I am not saying that every culture should segregate themselves. If they accept the local customs then fine, go anywhere you want. But if you insist that I change the way I live to accommodate your customs then that is wrong. The solution for you is to shop where your customs are met. It's your choice and not a forced segregation.

P.S. Shop-n-Save is a large discount supermarket in the mid-west.

It's ok Gary even I understand I just don't think this is such a widespread problem that it justifies all this outrage. These days you only have to insert the word "muslim" into a sentence to conjure up a lot of resentment and set the net curtains aflutter. That's kind of what these sorts of news stories are intended to do, but is this sensationalism representative of some organised movement to subvert American culture? I'm not so sure that a handful of douchebags who refuse to do the job they are paid to do amount to some sort of 'ideological terrorism'.

Lou Dobbs and Bill O'Reilly might sell books on the basis of fictional wars of semantics - but it doesn't necessarily translate into a real-life experience. So far only one person here has claimed to have experienced this kind of thing and that in a "muslim" country. I guess the question still stands - have you directly experienced the form discrimination described in the OP article. I haven't...

I don't care if the ones making the stink are Muslim, Jewish or Druids. If the area you live in has a settled way of doing things and a minority is insisting that the majority change to accommodate them then it's wrong. I again point to the stink about religious displays at holidays. 90% of the people have no problem with them but because of the 10% my kids can't sing "Silent Night" at the school Christmas play. How is that fair? That kind of discrimination I have experienced. And I see this as the beginning of a new set of discriminations. Sounding off about it now may fend it off.