OMG - Checklist makes no sense..what to do? (merged threads)

[NikLR 13,220]

Thank you (and thank you NLR, too) - ok just so I get this straight:

- As I we have no children or dependents - and my mother did not have me as a dependent on her returns:

--Household member size on HER i-864 will be 2 (her and him), and will also be 2 on my corrected i-864 (1 for me, and 1 for my husband/petitioner).

--All blanks pertaining to income on MY i-864 will be Zero (as I have no income) - and not to worry that there's no where on the form that points to my joint sponsor's form (that's why I got confused and thought the i-864A was the correct form, because it allowed me to refer to her income as the support backup.)

--Although they didn't request a new i-864 from me (just one from my mother) - if I write a sticky note on it saying "Corrected i-864 from Petitioner/Sponsor" - that will suffice, when I send in both i-864's ?

Thanks...again..

1) right. Her household size will be 2 and your household size will be 2

2) correct, your income will be zero and her income will be completely on her I-864

3) that's fine.

Make sure to send a copy of your mom's birth certificate or bio page of her passport, and proof of ongoing income and/or assets, along with at least the last tax return (2014 currently) if you haven't already.

[Frankjavir 55]

I will fill the timeline out best as I can - I didn't keep track of every date... Will try not to start stand-alone topics, so far my questions are just pertaining to NVC, and the one I just posted i-864. Yes it is very helpful, this forum, thank you kindly!

You will be very welcome to the forum I mentioned which is moderated by Dwheels76, she is wonderful.

I highly recommend to read her whole first post each month, it has tons of good information, every thing you need to know.

The main guide is

http://www.visajourney.com/wiki/index.php/NVC_Process

Edited March 29, 2016 by Frankjavir

[Pitaya 2,576]

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[USAontheway 2]

1) right. Her household size will be 2 and your household size will be 2

2) correct, your income will be zero and her income will be completely on her I-864

3) that's fine.

Make sure to send a copy of your mom's birth certificate or bio page of her passport, and proof of ongoing income and/or assets, along with at least the last tax return (2014 currently) if you haven't already.

The lady I spoke to earlier at NVC said they still had all her tax documents, and didn't need to provide them again... but it does make me wonder: My mom's income is $36,000 ... which qualifies over the poverty levels. She also has the home and cars (assets) -- we did not include any assets - only the $36,000 as her income... and the previous 3 years too (some of which was over $100,000 per year income).

We were told that it wasn't really necessary to include assets if her income qualified (and since my husband has held down a 16 year job in NZ, and is of good character) -- but since I have a chance to send in new i-864's, do you think it would be best to try to include the assets on the new form -- and send in whatever proof of assets along with this package?

Sorry if I'm complicating it... I so badly, don't want any more delays if at all possible!!! . Thank you so much...

[USAontheway 2]

You will be very welcome to the forum I mentioned which is moderated by Dwheels76, she is wonderful.

I highly recommend to read her whole first post each month, it has tons of good information, every thing you need to know.

The main guide is

http://www.visajourney.com/wiki/index.php/NVC_Process

I was just looking at that page, it is very helpful with a lot of detail! I have to say though, as in my case the i-864 issue was complex - I still don't think I would have understood accurately what to do, from all the reading I've done prior, (and even on the Which I-864 Form to Use section of your linked page). I wish there had been some kind of flowchart laying out various situations and what to do....the i-864 is a beast... lol Anyway, thanks again!

[Frankjavir 55]

I was just looking at that page, it is very helpful with a lot of detail! I have to say though, as in my case the i-864 issue was complex - I still don't think I would have understood accurately what to do, from all the reading I've done prior, (and even on the Which I-864 Form to Use section of your linked page). I wish there had been some kind of flowchart laying out various situations and what to do....the i-864 is a beast... lol Anyway, thanks again!

In your case, definitively your version of AOS form is an I-864, ignore the other ones.

The official NVC page from the State Department perhaps is more explicit:

https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/immigrate/immigrant-process/documents/Step_4_Collect_Financial_Documents.html

[NikLR 13,220]

No dont bother with assets if her income qualifies.

[USAontheway 2]

No dont bother with assets if her income qualifies.

Thank you! You guys have been so helpful today... I'll try to do the same for some people on here when i can...

[kurte 0]

HI

I'm in a similar situation where i need to submit AOS - My wife is the US citizen and she will be my sponsor. However, she is working for a tech startup and not making any money, so in NZ we are living from my income, similar to u and your husband. In this situation why do you need a joint sponsor if your husband had an income?

Do you i still need a joint sponsor even though my NZ salary is well above poverty guidelines? You mention that your mother in law was joint sponsor.

I will be doing i-864a and my wife the us citizen will be doing i-864 - based on what you did you also got your mother in law to do i-864. Just looking to know why you had to get a joint sponsor if husband has a NZ income, and is it because you are living with her?

thanks

Edited April 5, 2016 by kurte

[USAontheway 2]

HI

I'm in a similar situation where i need to submit AOS - My wife is the US citizen and she will be my sponsor. However, she is working for a tech startup and not making any money, so in NZ we are living from my income, similar to u and your husband. In this situation why do you need a joint sponsor if your husband had an income?

Do you i still need a joint sponsor even though my NZ salary is well above poverty guidelines? You mention that your mother in law was joint sponsor.

I will be doing i-864a and my wife the us citizen will be doing i-864 - based on what you did you also got your mother in law to do i-864. Just looking to know why you had to get a joint sponsor if husband has a NZ income, and is it because you are living with her?

thanks

Hi there - well I hope I can save you some hassle with my answers...

Ok, just to clear things up, our sponsor is my (I'm the wife/US Citizen) mother - not my mother in law - she lives in Australia. My own mother lives in California, she has the house, income, etc to help sponsor my husband.

Before I answer specific questions - let me say, please make sure you read REALLY carefully through the official sites and the recommended stuff on this forum regarding your specific situation - or you could end up delayed/checklisted like I was.

So to your questions...

"In this situation why do you need a joint sponsor if your husband had an income?" and "Do you i still need a joint sponsor even though my NZ salary is well above poverty guidelines?"

Right now, we are still living in New Zealand, and my husband's income is from New Zealand. It won't be an income that transfers over with us - we have to start fresh finding work when we get there, so we aren't using his current income (look for something that talks about "income from a continuous source.") (We could have opted to use some of his assets and bank statements on the paperwork, but it wasn't necessary - we were just able to use my Mom's stuff). So...if your income will come from the same source as it currently is coming from, once you move to the USA - you might be able to use it.

I'm not sure that the i-864a will be the correct form for you - and highly suggest you have a very thorough read of the sites before submitting - sincerely sympathize, as I know what a trial it is undergoing all this. Just a FYI - initially, both my mother and I had filled out i-864's, which WAS the correct thing in our situation... but I switched it, thinking I was being clever, as when I read the i-864a, I misinterpreted it, thinking my mother actually had to fill out the i-864a instead of the i-864. The problem was that the i-864a would only have been correct if I had *currently* been living with her and/or claimed as a dependent on her taxes. ... BUT as she is in the USA, it may be different from your situation altogether.

If you can call the NVC and tell them your specific situation (be VERY specific), you might save delays. Best wishes, and sorry if I confused you...(best to make SURE now than later!)

[kurte 0]

Thanks for the feedback and insights - I am in process of contacting NVC to some more specific info - All the best,

[Adri99 1]

guys we've sent I-864 with 2014,2013,2012 IRS tax transcripts coz 2015 is being processed.we also added an explanation letter with the joint sponsor's signature that he filed for 2015 tax but it's being processed, and pay stubs from 2016 march and feb.

Scan date: 03/31/16

so basically they'll review the case after the tax deadline April 18

will they checklist us?

[USAontheway 2]

guys we've sent I-864 with 2014,2013,2012 IRS tax transcripts coz 2015 is being processed.we also added an explanation letter with the joint sponsor's signature that he filed for 2015 tax but it's being processed, and pay stubs from 2016 march and feb.

Scan date: 03/31/16

so basically they'll review the case after the tax deadline April 18

will they checklist us?

Hi there - I talked to NVC today with the same question, my Mother's (she's Joint Sponsor) info we sent in, included her 2012/2013 and 2014 tax documents - sent in March. The lady at NVC said that as long as the items were sent in on time, it should be fine, even though it's April now and tax time.

If you want to make sure for your situation, call NVC - both times I've called have not been more than 10-15 minute wait, max - and so far they are very nice and helpful! Good luck!