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I'm British, husband American: if we move to the US, can we return to the UK? He has ILR here!

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Hi there everyone

Apologies if this is in the wrong forum!

I saw a thread - I think maybe a pinned post? - about spouses potentially not being allowed back into the UK to reside once relocated to the US.

My husband has Indefinite Leave to Remain here in the UK and has been here 10+ years.

We are currently embarking on the visa process for our family (including our 3yo child who has both UK and American citizenship) to move to the US.

Does this mean we would be subjected to the new financial requirements for non-UK citizens if we were to come back to the UK at any point? Or does the fact he has ILR mean he could come back here again?

Thanks for any advice on this!

LW x

Posted (edited)

Thank you for moving to correct place, still finding my way around!

No worries! That's why we have organizers on top of mods. :) Edited by NLR

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Posted

That is probably a question best asked of the UK government. Does ILA get revoked if you move out of the UK?

The financial things are true with new people trying to immigrate and get that ILA. You need to ask the UK if the ILA is forever and ever.

On the other side, if you get a greencard, then move back to the UK, you lose your greencard. You would start over from the beginning to immigrate back to the US. If you obtained US citizenship first, then you could move back and forth at will.

England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

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05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

Posted

That is probably a question best asked of the UK government. Does ILA get revoked if you move out of the UK?

The financial things are true with new people trying to immigrate and get that ILA. You need to ask the UK if the ILA is forever and ever.

On the other side, if you get a greencard, then move back to the UK, you lose your greencard. You would start over from the beginning to immigrate back to the US. If you obtained US citizenship first, then you could move back and forth at will.

Thanks!

Not currently on the cards to come back to the UK within a few years of relocation - would hope to be there long enough to get citizenship (3 years?) before that, if ever! Just nice to know what the score is :)

Posted

Ah - found this here:

How long is Indefinite Leave to Remain valid for?

There is no time limit on Indefinite Leave to Remain in the UK, however it is important to note that you should not spend periods of more than two years outside the UK as this may lead to the loss of ILR.

http://www.visalogic.net/uk/indefinite-leave-to-remain/4/50

By this reckoning, one of us will lose our rights in the UK or US one way or another it seems!

Posted

Ah - found this here: How long is Indefinite Leave to Remain valid for?

There is no time limit on Indefinite Leave to Remain in the UK, however it is important to note that you should not spend periods of more than two years outside the UK as this may lead to the loss of ILR.

http://www.visalogic.net/uk/indefinite-leave-to-remain/4/50

By this reckoning, one of us will lose our rights in the UK or US one way or another it seems!

So ILA is similar to a greencard in that it can be revoked If you remain outside that country for certain lengths of time. Maybe he should look at gaining his British citizenship if he qualifies. https://www.gov.uk/becoming-a-british-citizen/if-your-spouse-is-a-british-citizen

England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

Posted

So ILA is similar to a greencard in that it can be revoked If you remain outside that country for certain lengths of time. Maybe he should look at gaining his British citizenship if he qualifies. https://www.gov.uk/becoming-a-british-citizen/if-your-spouse-is-a-british-citizen

Thanks :) I wondered about that- but didn't think it would look good with our needing to prove his intent to live in the US for my visa application if he was going for this at the same time?! Seemed contrary!

Posted

Thanks :) I wondered about that- but didn't think it would look good with our needing to prove his intent to live in the US for my visa application if he was going for this at the same time?! Seemed contrary!

Well you are only proving his intent to the Americans to meet the requirements of the I-864 which says a sponsor must be US domiciled.

Nothing to do with pending applications to the UK, which they don't know about.

England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

Posted

Hi we have a similar situation, my wife (USC) has ILR in the UK, we now live in the US

You need to come back to the UK within 2 years to keep your ILR valid, and keep coming back 2 yearly

A vacation is fine, and there is no time limit you need to stay in UK

We just pop over for a vacation

Posted

Well you are only proving his intent to the Americans to meet the requirements of the I-864 which says a sponsor must be US domiciled.

Nothing to do with pending applications to the UK, which they don't know about.

Thanks, will look into it. As he hasn't been US domiciled for years we're going to have to collect that extra stuff to show his intent (letter from his father stating he will give my husband work and our family a home I hope will be the main thing!) anyway... :)

Hi we have a similar situation, my wife (USC) has ILR in the UK, we now live in the US

You need to come back to the UK within 2 years to keep your ILR valid, and keep coming back 2 yearly

A vacation is fine, and there is no time limit you need to stay in UK

We just pop over for a vacation

Oh that is interesting! We definitely will be coming back to visit family at least every 1-2 years we hope anyway :)

Is that written anywhere do you know?

Thanks :)

Posted

So much easier to get dual citizenship. That's what I intend to do. My brother's wife had ILR (she's from Mexico) but grabbed the British citizenship with both hands as soon as she could so that they can go back and forth as they please.

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

Posted

Thanks, will look into it. As he hasn't been US domiciled for years we're going to have to collect that extra stuff to show his intent (letter from his father stating he will give my husband work and our family a home I hope will be the main thing!) anyway... :)

Oh that is interesting! We definitely will be coming back to visit family at least every 1-2 years we hope anyway :)

Is that written anywhere do you know?

Thanks :)

This is the link to what happens if you stay out of the country over 2 years, I know it sounds backwards, but basically your fine within the 2 year cycle

The Passport Officer was the one who brought it to our attention, we both wrongly assumed it stayed valid permanently

https://www.gov.uk/returning-resident-visa

Posted

I think he forfeits it but I am not 100% England is really bad with visa laws. Get his UK citizenship and passport before you leave or it'll cause a nightmare later if you decide you want to come back because it will not be easy!

K-1 Jan 2016 Applicant timeline.

I-129f sent to lock box 7th January 2016.
Delivered 11th January 2016.
NOA1 sent to CSC January 14th 2016.
NOA1 Hard copy January 21st 2016.
RFE email 10th March 2016.
RFE hard copy - 21th March 2016.
RFE Evidence sent- 4th April 2016.
RFE Received by USCIS- 6th April 2016.
NOA2 Received by email dated 18th April 2016.
NOA2 hard copy - April 21st 2016
NVC Recieved- May 9th 2016.
NVC number received- May 9th 2016.
DS-160 filled out - 9th May 2016.
Medical - May 18th 2016
CEAC in Transit - 11th May 2016.
CEAC update embassy received medical- may 24th 2016
Interview- June 15th 2016. - approved!!
POE- July 13th 2016 -Chicago

Married July 18th 2016. (L)

AOS

Package sent- August 18th 2016

Arrived at Chicago Lockbox- August 20th 2016.

NOA 1 - August 25th 2016 (text received 27th).

AP NOA1- 22nd August 2016 (text received 27th).

EAD NOA1- 22nd August 2016 (email received 27th).

NOA1 Hard copies received- September 1st 2016.

Bio-metrics- 20th September 2016.

Request Initial Information for I-485 - October 6th 2016.

RFIE- Affidavit Support information October 11th 2016.

RFIE- Response sent Overnight USPS. October 17th 2016.

RFIE- Delivered October 18th 2016.

RFIE- Received by USCIS October 20th 2016.

EAD- Card Being produced November 17th 2016.

AP- Approved November 17th 2016.

 
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