Gathering I-751 Evidence

[cat 0]

Thank you a lot Lucyrich...

Oufff, I will take a deep breath :-)... You wrote that

"If your husband is attending prenatal doctors appointments with you, that fact can also be noted."

How it could be noted. Of course my husband is so excited and wait with me every monthly appt. And especially Ultrasound, when the doctor told us that it is a boy... :-) and the due date is a month after you :-), end of july...

[lucyrich 19]

"If your husband is attending prenatal doctors appointments with you, that fact can also be noted."

How it could be noted. Of course my husband is so excited and wait with me every monthly appt. And especially Ultrasound, when the doctor told us that it is a boy... :-)

Just write up a letter something like this:

To whom it may concern,

I certify that I am Mary Smith's physician, and that Mary is pregant, with an estimated due date of ?? July, 2006. Her husband, John Smith, has been coming to her prenatal appointments with her.

Dated this ?? day of mmm, 2006

Dr. Marcus Welby, MD

Change the details as appropriate, and ask your doctor to sign it. Offer to show your husband's ID and your marriage license to the doctor if he/she is uncomfortable attesting to the identity of the guy who's been coming to your appointments with you.

Also, take a photo of you and your husband together, with a big belly showing.

Oh, and enclose a copy of an ultrasound picture, too. It probably doesn't prove too much, but you've been showing it to everyone else, right? And I suspect it probably has your name and the date on it, to help confirm the details of the pregnancy.

[todd412 0]

May i just throw in my 2 cents....

Ive been keeping ALL of my and my wife's cell / house phone bills.

I was thinking that when it came time to submit my own I-751 that i would include just the cover sheets with the front page of some of the bills.

If i / we got a RFE or interview then you can always produce the itemised records and highlight all off the calls that you have made to each other over the last year or two....

What better way to prove that you are actually in contact with each other than proof of all those thousands of calls youve made to each other over the years....

Obviously if you werent a legit couple and it was a sham marriage you wouldnt have such records.

Im not saying send them all 1st time round, but maybe some of them and be sure to keep the rest in case of a RFE or interview.

if anyone else thinks this is stupid, remember that such cell phone records are proof enough to prove associations and convict people of certain crimes in court - so why not let it work the other way for you?

[meauxna 15]

Dr. Marcus Welby, MD

Oops, your age is showing!

Double Oops! Now mine is, too!

[I'm Gone 60]

May i just throw in my 2 cents....

Ive been keeping ALL of my and my wife's cell / house phone bills.

I was thinking that when it came time to submit my own I-751 that i would include just the cover sheets with the front page of some of the bills.

If i / we got a RFE or interview then you can always produce the itemised records and highlight all off the calls that you have made to each other over the last year or two....

What better way to prove that you are actually in contact with each other than proof of all those thousands of calls youve made to each other over the years....

Obviously if you werent a legit couple and it was a sham marriage you wouldnt have such records.

Im not saying send them all 1st time round, but maybe some of them and be sure to keep the rest in case of a RFE or interview.

if anyone else thinks this is stupid.

Don't think it's stupid, just don't think phone records of much value for removal of conditions. She could be selling drugs and you are the supplier. I don't think photos worth much either.

I believe they look for things that you have invested in together or co-own. Joint tax returns, joint credit card accounts, joint bank accounts, both names on a lease, mortgage, car registation or loan.

[zyggy 9]

May i just throw in my 2 cents....

Ive been keeping ALL of my and my wife's cell / house phone bills.

I was thinking that when it came time to submit my own I-751 that i would include just the cover sheets with the front page of some of the bills.

If i / we got a RFE or interview then you can always produce the itemised records and highlight all off the calls that you have made to each other over the last year or two....

What better way to prove that you are actually in contact with each other than proof of all those thousands of calls youve made to each other over the years....

Obviously if you werent a legit couple and it was a sham marriage you wouldnt have such records.

Im not saying send them all 1st time round, but maybe some of them and be sure to keep the rest in case of a RFE or interview.

if anyone else thinks this is stupid.

Don't think it's stupid, just don't think phone records of much value for removal of conditions. She could be selling drugs and you are the supplier. I don't think photos worth much either.

I believe they look for things that you have invested in together or co-own. Joint tax returns, joint credit card accounts, joint bank accounts, both names on a lease, mortgage, car registation or loan.

And whay would would need to show records that they phone each other all the time.. they're living together right... shouldn't most of their communication take place at home? Agree... phone records show little and could actually hurt you..

[cat 0]

hmmm, how could we prove our calls phone??????? We calls each other ten times a day or more, but when we bought our cells (last year), we have had a great deal to buy all them on the same name. So my cell phone is on my husband name (and franckly I did not remember that Lifting conditions to ask to put it on my name) so we have two phone on my husband name... our home phone, electricity etc also on his name. we can change it now, and add it but it will be only since this month and not for two years... same thing with my car...

Mortgage is on my husband name, of corse, with my "no credit story" we could not buy anything in California, but the title is on our both names of corse.

[I'm Gone 60]

hmmm, how could we prove our calls phone??????? We calls each other ten times a day or more, but when we bought our cells (last year), we have had a great deal to buy all them on the same name. So my cell phone is on my husband name (and franckly I did not remember that Lifting conditions to ask to put it on my name) so we have two phone on my husband name... our home phone, electricity etc also on his name. we can change it now, and add it but it will be only since this month and not for two years... same thing with my car...

Mortgage is on my husband name, of corse, with my "no credit story" we could not buy anything in California, but the title is on our both names of corse.

Magazine subscriptions in both names. Make a copy of the cover that shows the address label. Have your husband submit a letter to his work on their letterhead making you the emergency contact and submit a copy of that. If you take a vacation together, copies of the plane tickets which I would assume are on the same day and next to each other. Get the hotel reservation/bill in both names. Get a couple statements from friends or family to attest to you being happily married and living at the same address. You just have to be creative if you lack solid evidence in other areas.

Edited March 15, 2006 by mdyoung

[cat 0]

Thank you ... but the problem is that we can do everything but right now... We don't have a lot to prove two last years... As I said, we totally forgot this step, and lived happyly :-), but without evidence stuff :-)... Of corse, we have a lot of friends who can attest it.

And we are working in the same company... So maybe I can show our pay rolls coming on the same address?

[napes 0]

May i just throw in my 2 cents....

Ive been keeping ALL of my and my wife's cell / house phone bills.

I was thinking that when it came time to submit my own I-751 that i would include just the cover sheets with the front page of some of the bills.

If i / we got a RFE or interview then you can always produce the itemised records and highlight all off the calls that you have made to each other over the last year or two....

What better way to prove that you are actually in contact with each other than proof of all those thousands of calls youve made to each other over the years....

Obviously if you werent a legit couple and it was a sham marriage you wouldnt have such records.

Im not saying send them all 1st time round, but maybe some of them and be sure to keep the rest in case of a RFE or interview.

if anyone else thinks this is stupid.

Don't think it's stupid, just don't think phone records of much value for removal of conditions. She could be selling drugs and you are the supplier. I don't think photos worth much either.

I believe they look for things that you have invested in together or co-own. Joint tax returns, joint credit card accounts, joint bank accounts, both names on a lease, mortgage, car registation or loan.

And whay would would need to show records that they phone each other all the time.. they're living together right... shouldn't most of their communication take place at home? Agree... phone records show little and could actually hurt you..

How on earth could they hurt you????, i mean unless both parties live, work, socialize and spend completely all thier time with each other and are never away from each other they its only logical that one party will call the other throughout the day - as would any normal couple.

I think that NOT having such proof could hurt you - our AOS officer wanted itemised phone records and asked us to point out on the bill where we had called each other - which we obviously did!

[HappyTwo 0]

I have a question to all about affidavits.

Do any of you guys know what sort of statement this affidavit should contain?

Something like, " I certify that i've known this couple for x years and it is obvious to me that they entered marriage in good faith"? Or something more official? less official?

Is there anybody out there who has done this type of affidavit has some good text suggestions?

My husband and I have 4 people who will be happy to affirm these affidavits, but we want to provide them with some stadard text, so they are not burdened by having to create it and that the statement is short and to the point enough.

Thank you!

Great discussion, really helps me in deciding what docs to send along with my 751 form...

[one_coolchiq 0]

Thanks all I'll go for meuxna's list hehe but i saved some in case i forgot something better to be safe than sorry althoug it's waaaaay too early for me. That's how we got through our AOS process by reading every post's here and i really knew better than my husband USC when it come's to dealing with uscis. All because of VJourney.

[meauxna 15]

I have a question to all about affidavits.

Do any of you guys know what sort of statement this affidavit should contain?

Something like, " I certify that i've known this couple for x years and it is obvious to me that they entered marriage in good faith"? Or something more official? less official?

Is there anybody out there who has done this type of affidavit has some good text suggestions?

My husband and I have 4 people who will be happy to affirm these affidavits, but we want to provide them with some stadard text, so they are not burdened by having to create it and that the statement is short and to the point enough.

Thank you!

Great discussion, really helps me in deciding what docs to send along with my 751 form...

IMO (and we did not send any affidavits), your letters will be more powerful if they are individual and specific. See lucyrich's post earlier in this thread as an example.

Your friends can talk about meeting you weekly for dinner or spending a certain event at your home or something else specific to them that shows their observation of your relationship. They don't have to swear on how you entered into the marriage, just what they have personally observed

There are also some specific facts that they must include on the affidavit. I don't know them by heart, but unique identifiers like name, address and SS# are required. The info is on uscis.gov (maybe in the I-75 application procedures?).

Thanks all I'll go for meuxna's list hehe but i saved some in case i forgot something better to be safe than sorry althoug it's waaaaay too early for me. That's how we got through our AOS process by reading every post's here and i really knew better than my husband USC when it come's to dealing with uscis. All because of VJourney.

Thender, haha! Don't limit yourself to my list.. you'll miss a lot of good evidence that YOU have that WE didn't!

My best advice is to start saving things right away. It really made it easy to sift through a pile of things we'd already deemed useful, instead of going through mountains of paper at application time.

Don't forget that the application procedure has changed since we filed, and there may be new or different requirements since our list.

m

[sparkofcreation 0]

Something like, " I certify that i've known this couple for x years and it is obvious to me that they entered marriage in good faith"? Or something more official? less official?

Is there anybody out there who has done this type of affidavit has some good text suggestions?

My husband and I have 4 people who will be happy to affirm these affidavits, but we want to provide them with some stadard text, so they are not burdened by having to create it and that the statement is short and to the point enough.

The email we sent to people who were writing ours said (we had my mom and our roommate do them for our AOS interview just in case, since we hadn't done K-1 and had never had to present any evidence the relationship was real before then):

This is the basic gist of what they want—the main points are:

1. that you're a US citizen (w/ enough info to verify that): name,

birth name if different, current address, place of birth. If born

outside the US, how you got citizenship (your parents were US

citizens, or the date and place you were naturalized, or whatever).

2. How and when you met each of us.

3. How often you see us and when the last time you saw us together

was. (This is why it should be done as late as possible.)

4. Statement to the effect that we give every appearance of really

being married, with examples if you can think of any.

5. Your contact info (address and phone).

6. "I certify under penalty of perjury that the above is true and correct."

7. The letter must be signed in front of a notary.

Both letters ran to about half a page, single-spaced.

[cat 0]

Hello,

Should our friends send us the letter by email? Or by mail?

Thanks