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[priere_d 2]

My husband is currently receiving ssi and he cannot receive his income when he will be out of the US for more than thirty days. He was told though that if he will be out for more than a month he needs to inform the social security office about it so that they can stop his income and will be resumed after he gets back. Our question though, say he's out of U.S. for two to three months and don't receive his income would that affect application?

Thank you everyone.

[VOL 425]

What application is he doing?

Effect? as in not enough earnings?

[priere_d 2]

As far as affidavit of support, would that affect it if he don't receive his supposedly income for those months he's out of U.S.?

[teddy k 35]

First you don't tell SS that you will be out of country just have your US BANK transfer to an account in the Philippines

[luckytwo15 13]

Is that SSI only? There are people living in the PI that receive regular retirement SS and also I think there might be folks getting SSDI. There's a U.S. Social Security office in Manila.

Edited February 27, 2015 by luckytwo15

[VOL 425]

http://www.ssa.gov/international/payments_outsideUS.html

[priere_d 2]

Well he talked to them and told him they can't give him his income when he's out for a month. So we are wondering if affidavit of support are filed, would that affect it since he won't be receiving his income for a month or two?

[Greenbaum 12,259]

Well he talked to them and told him they can't give him his income when he's out for a month. So we are wondering if affidavit of support are filed, would that affect it since he won't be receiving his income for a month or two?

The experience of some of us here is that when your working with a government agency, and we see it more with SSN's, the SS agent sometimes does not understand all the situations and therefore sometimes is giving out misinformation.

So, what we suggest is that you make an appointment with SS and restart the process. Sometimes it just needs a more experienced individual. Maybe the agent is not aware that he is going out of the country to the Philippines which is a "normal" country that many USC live in.

I used Vol's suggested website and found that he (your fiancée) would be allowed to go to the Philippines and continue receiving his benefits. Now, I don't have all the facts about your case and therefore suggest that he visit the nearest SS office, or he can call SS and discuss his situation over the phone with an agent.

To answer your question it is not going to effect your AOS as the income threshold is met from the past year that you completed taxes for. So now you would file the AOS using 2013 income but if filed after April 15th then he would need to use the income for 2014 tax year, neither which will effect the filing of the AOS this year.

Edited February 27, 2015 by Greenbaum

[aaron2020 11,651]

SSI is welfare. It's to supplement those who's regular benefits are below a certain level. It stops when the recipient is outside the U.S. for 30 days.

Whether it stops or not is irrelevant for the Affidavit of Support because it's welfare. It can't be used. It's like trying to use food stamps to met the AOS financial requirements.

Edited February 27, 2015 by aaron2020

[aaron2020 11,651]

Well he talked to them and told him they can't give him his income when he's out for a month. So we are wondering if affidavit of support are filed, would that affect it since he won't be receiving his income for a month or two?

SSI is not income. It's welfare. It's a means tested benefit.

It can not be used for the AOS. It doesn't matter if it stops or not since it's welfare and he can not use it for the AOS.

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Means Tested Public Benefits

Federal means tested public benefits are the following:

Food stamps

Supplemental Security Income (SSI)

Medicaid

Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF)

State Child Health Insurance Program (CHIP)

Edited February 27, 2015 by aaron2020

[Greenbaum 12,259]

To follow up on an earlier post I stand corrected (thank you aaron2020).

Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is a Federal income supplement program funded by general tax revenues (not Social Security taxes): It is designed to help aged, blind, and disabled people, who have little or no income; and It provides cash to meet basic needs for food, clothing, and shelter. In further research the answer to your question is that he will lose his SSI during the time that he is out of the USA.

What is the Supplemental Security Income (SSI) program?

Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is a cash assistance program funded and administered by the Federal Government. The program is authorized by Title XVI (Supplemental Security Income for the Aged, Blind, and Disabled) of the Social Security Act. Beginning in January 1974, SSI replaced the Federal/State matching grant program of adult assistance to the aged, blind, and disabled. Under SSI, there is no minimum age limit for establishing eligibility based on blindness or disability. What is the Supplemental Security Income (SSI) program?

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/OP_Home/handbook/handbook.21/handbook-2100.html

Also:

2116. Absence from the United States 2116.1

Are you still eligible for SSI benefits if you leave the United States?

You are not eligible for SSI benefits for the month or months that you are:

1. Outside the United States for a full calendar month or more; and

2. Not a child living outside the United States with a parent in the military service or a student temporarily abroad for the purpose of studying.

2116.2 When are you considered back in the United States?

If you have been outside the United States for 30 days in a row, you are not considered “back” until you have spent 30 days in a row in the United States.

2116.3 When does your eligibility begin again after you have been outside of the United States?

After an absence of 30 days in a row, your SSI eligibility may resume effective with the day following the 30th day of your continuous presence in the United States. You must continue to meet all other eligibility criteria.

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/OP_Home/handbook/handbook.21/handbook-2116.html

[aaron2020 11,651]

First you don't tell SS that you will be out of country just have your US BANK transfer to an account in the Philippines

Nice. Why are you advocating Social Security fraud?