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Let's Not Forget That We Also Have Legal Immigration

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A federal judge has temporarily blocked President Obama's executive order that overrode existing immigration law. The result is more acrimony and chaos.

It is a good time to remember that there are more than just two types of immigration — legal and illegal. There also exist liberal and illiberal approaches to immigration.

Liberal immigration is governed by laws passed by Congress and signed and executed by the president. Nearly all Americans accept that no individual can pick and choose which federal statute he chooses to obey.

Liberal immigration would be entirely legal, meritocratic and ethnically blind. Skills and education would matter more than proximity to the border or political clout.

The numbers of immigrants would be balanced by liberal considerations: the need for skilled newcomers to avoid dependency on American society, and concern that their arrival not harm the economic aspirations of poor working citizens.

Liberal immigration would aim at rapidly integrating and assimilating immigrants in accordance with further classical liberal principles. America is not a multicultural society where appearance is essential to our characters but a uniquely multiracial nation bound by common values.

In contrast, illiberal immigration would be the opposite of the above. A president by fiat would nullify existing laws and order federal agencies to ignore them. Or he would issue executive orders contrary to both his prior promises and to the Constitution.

President Obama did not, as he alleges, override Congress because it failed to act on immigration. He ignored it because Congress would not act in a particular fashion that he found ideologically akin to his own beliefs.

Illiberal immigration would also mean that new arrivals could ignore the cost, time and inconvenience of applying for visas. Instead, they would just enter the U.S. illegally and not be transparent about their illegal status.

Illiberal immigration would turn policy away from ethnically blind considerations to focus on ethnic criteria. It would assume that enforcing federal immigration law and making immigration policy should react to ethnic and political lobbying groups.

Illiberal immigration would not concern itself with the impact of arrivals on the host country, especially the costs incurred by the public or the effect on the wages and services of the poor and working classes.

Also, illiberal immigration would undermine easy assimilation, in hopes of creating bloc constituencies. It would encourage romance for the country left behind, resulting in demands on, rather than gratitude to, the newly adopted country.

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http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-on-the-right/022515-740907-there-is-a-difference-between-legal-and-illegal-immigration.htm

We need this type of publicity!!

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Illiberal Immigration?

An illiberal democracy, also called a pseudo democracy, partial democracy, low intensity democracy, empty democracy or hybrid regime,[1] is a governing system in which, although elections take place, citizens are cut off from knowledge about the activities of those who exercise real power because of the lack of civil liberties. It is not an 'open society'. There are many countries "that are categorized as neither "free" nor "not free," but as "probably free," falling somewhere between democratic and nondemocratic regimes."[2] This may be because a constitution limiting government powers exists, but its liberties are ignored, or because an adequate legal constitutional framework of liberties does not exist.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illiberal_democracy

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I have no idea but it is definitely a new and interesting term I had not heard before. She is saying Obama is part of the illiberal party?? lol

The term illiberal democracy was used by Fareed Zakaria in a regularly cited 1997 article in the journal Foreign Affairs.[4]

He's a plagiarist and extreme left wing nut.

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so you do not agree with this term when describing Obama and his policies?

I found the piece to be disjointed and hard to read. It just doesn't flow well. Then, when the author introduces an obscure phrase like he did, it made it even more confusing. I like plain language. Most everyone is aware that illegals are streaming into the US every day, and that there are likely 20-million of them here already. It's a political topic. Left wing extremists fully support allowing them to stay, and even inviting more. Even some conservatives will support that.

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so you do not agree with this term when describing Obama and his policies?

Janelle, I think charts like this and articles that clearly describe the difficult path people have who choose to obey the law are the most compelling. Your thoughts?

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http://immigrationroad.com/green-card/immigration-flowchart-roadmap-to-green-card.pdf

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You spelled illegal wrong.

Sorry, I thought the article was about legal immigration. :rofl:

No one would every write about this.

Janelle, I think charts like this and articles that clearly describe the difficult path people have who choose to obey the law are the most compelling. Your thoughts?

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http://immigrationroad.com/green-card/immigration-flowchart-roadmap-to-green-card.pdf

This map is awesome!!! I am going to post it in another forum.

lol

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Someone named Janelle, and California started a topic about Illegal aliens taking jobs. As you might expect, the fangs are out.

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Hahaha nope wasn't me. However, why are people upset over the comment. How do people think illegal migrants are supporting themselves? They are working somewhere. Thuh!!

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