Police street stops have soared in NYC, over 85% stopped are Black or Hispanic

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

If I'm looking for a perp who has been described to me as a young, black, fat male, I'm gonna pull over young, black, fat males. I'm not gonna pull over white people, black chicks, skinny black guys, etc. So assuming each pull-over is associated with a specific search for a specific perp, the %'s should match up.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

If I'm looking for a perp who has been described to me as a young, black, fat male, I'm gonna pull over young, black, fat males. I'm not gonna pull over white people, black chicks, skinny black guys, etc. So assuming each pull-over is associated with a specific search for a specific perp, the %'s should match up.

That's reasonable because black is part of the physical description.

The problem exists when a police officer pulls over a motorist because he's black - betting on the odds he's going to find him in posession of an illegal substance, have a suspended license or possibly a warrant out for his arrest. That's just wrong...it's lazy police work and it's wrong.

[mawilson 2,133]

there is no correlation between being black and criminal behavior

No correlation? What are you smoking?

If you are black, you're *statistically* more likely to be a criminal. Therefore,

if the police are going to stop people *at random*, they should statistically stop

more black people than white people (to be fair).

And no, it doesn't mean that black people are somehow genetically predisposed to crime.

[mawilson 2,133]

Race has nothing to do with it. What I said is also true of poor people, regardless of race.

[Ban Hammer 14,276]

there is no correlation between being black and criminal behavior

No correlation? What are you smoking?

If you are black, you're *statistically* more likely to be a criminal. Therefore,

if the police are going to stop people *at random*, they should statistically stop

more black people than white people (to be fair).

And no, it doesn't mean that black people are somehow genetically predisposed to crime.

you're gonna catch hades for that

[mawilson 2,133]

It's statistics.

If you randomly select 1000 whites and 1000 blacks, you'll find more criminals among the blacks.

If you randomly select 1000 whites and 1000 asians, you'll find more criminals among the whites.

If you randomly select 1000 rich people and 1000 poor people, you'll find more criminals among the poor people.

[peejay 327]

If I'm looking for a perp who has been described to me as a young, black, fat male, I'm gonna pull over young, black, fat males. I'm not gonna pull over white people, black chicks, skinny black guys, etc. So assuming each pull-over is associated with a specific search for a specific perp, the %'s should match up.

That's reasonable because black is part of the physical description.

The problem exists when a police officer pulls over a motorist because he's black - betting on the odds he's going to find him in posession of an illegal substance, have a suspended license or possibly a warrant out for his arrest. That's just wrong...it's lazy police work and it's wrong.

Cops can always find a lame excuse to pull someone over...and only the cop will really know why (as opposed to his stated reason).

As I stated earlier I have been pulled over a number of times throughout the years without arrest or a ticket. Here is the last incident that happened in 2006.

I'm coming home from the grocery store in the middle of the day and when I go to turn into my neighborhood there is a cop blocking the esplanade to my turn off (probably shooting radar to catch speeders). So I preceeded to the next street I can turn to go home and wasn't worried because I wasn't speeding. I am almost to my house when the same cop tears up behind me and pulls me over. He is a Vietnamese Houston cop and he informs me right from the get go that I have warrants out for my arrest. I told him he was mistaken...I have no warrants for my arrest. He asks for my driver's license and insurance card and goes back to his patrol car. He comes back after a few minutes and asks me if I know Robert Fusalier. I don't know this guy and never heard of him. He informs me that Robert Fusalier has outstanding unpaid tickets for several offenses committed while driving my car. I tell the cop I'm the original owner of the car (bought it new), have owned it 9 years, the license plates match my registration, I don't loan my car to anyone, and I don't know anyone named Robert Fusalier. I further tell the cop that his information is incorrect, he is mistaken about my car, and its history. He continued to grill me for 15 minutes about this Fusalier guy and I begin to get annoyed. So I flat out asked the cop if I'm arrested, getting a ticket, or I can go upon my merry way. Which one is it? He tells me I can go, but advises me to get new license plates so I don't get pulled over again in the future. I'm still driving the same car with the same license plates and haven't been pulled over again.

So...what was that all about? You tell me and we both will know. I think the cop was digging for dirt and the Robert Fusalier story was a hoax. But I can't prove it nor did I pursue the matter. Maybe this Vietnamese cop hates middle aged white guys. Who knows?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

there is no correlation between being black and criminal behavior

No correlation? What are you smoking?

If you are black, you're *statistically* more likely to be a criminal. Therefore,

if the police are going to stop people *at random*, they should statistically stop

more black people than white people (to be fair).

And no, it doesn't mean that black people are somehow genetically predisposed to crime.

Don't be idiotic, we have Infidel for that.

I don't know about you but I don't want to live in a country where law enforcement will make assumptions about my behavior based on the color of my skin and pull me over when I've done nothing wrong. Law enforcement's job is to keep the peace, not stir sh!t up by harassing innocent civilians minding their own business just because they are black. If a police officer is more alerted or cautious because a civilian fits the description of a suspect, that is reasonable, but if an officer pulls you over without any other provocation (broken tail light for example) besides you being black, that is a violation of your constitutional rights. We have a right to go about our lives freely as long as we are obeying the laws...period.

[pedroh 21]

there is no correlation between being black and criminal behavior

No correlation? What are you smoking?

If you are black, you're *statistically* more likely to be a criminal. Therefore,

if the police are going to stop people *at random*, they should statistically stop

more black people than white people (to be fair).

And no, it doesn't mean that black people are somehow genetically predisposed to crime.

dude that's just wrong.. profiling and generalization at its most.. i know why cops do it.. people don't care that they are profiling everyday, because thats what people think.. just ignorant statements about race..

and it's not because you are black u are statistically more likely to be a criminal, u have to determine social class, generational poverty issues, racism issues (yeah, racism is still there)..

while people think that is correct to stop more blacks or hispanics because 'statistically' they are more likely to be criminals.. civil rights are going to still being violated every single day..

but oh.. what do white people have to be scared about?

Edited February 4, 2007 by pedroh

[Robor007 0]

Anyone who thinks racial profiling doesn't exist is kidding themselves. But I think that's like saying water is wet and the sun is bright.

[mawilson 2,133]

dude that's just wrong.. profiling and generalization at its most.. i know why cops do it.. people don't care that they are profiling everyday, because thats what people think.. just ignorant statements about race..

I know it's wrong and I'm against it myself, but it's real and (sadly) it works.

[eric&gen 0]

They better stop robbing the local KFC.

Edited February 4, 2007 by eric&gen

[peejay 327]

but oh.. what do white people have to be scared about?

Anally retentive Hispanic and Black cops with a chip on their shoulder and a hard on for gabachos and honkies. Yes Pedroh...racial profiling works both ways.

Edited February 5, 2007 by peejay

[Heracles 417]

I cannot believe people still use the race card in the US...

[Heracles 417]

and it's not because you are black u are statistically more likely to be a criminal, u have to determine social class, generational poverty issues, racism issues (yeah, racism is still there)..

while people think that is correct to stop more blacks or hispanics because 'statistically' they are more likely to be criminals.. civil rights are going to still being violated every single day..

Which culture/s are responsible for the majority of the ghettos and crime ridden slums again?? or is that my imagination..

It common sense. You dress like a dumb ### loser gangster you should be questioned..

but oh.. what do white people have to be scared about?

Shaking in their boots. Don't confuse being civilized for being scared.. I dare any MS 13 or any other group to come to Australia or Europe and act all tough..

Edited February 5, 2007 by Infidel