Letter of intent to marry

[Zedayn 485]

USEM rarely asks to see the LOI, even though they state you need to have one.

Where is it stated that you need to have one? It is not listed in the embassy instruction letter.

[ChEd 18]

Where is it stated that you need to have one? It is not listed in the embassy instruction letter.

check item "h" on the link below then decide on your own if you need one or not....one thing I've learned is that if you're not sure about something and nobody can give you a definite answer you always take the safe route.=)

http://photos.state.gov/libraries/manila/325288/packets/K1%20and%20K2%20Interview%20Preparation%20Instructions%20-%20English%20_updated%2004%20Feb%202014_.pdf

[_Paul&Jesica_ 70]

Where is it stated that you need to have one? It is not listed in the embassy instruction letter.

While it doesn't explicitly state that an LOI is needed, it is strongly implied in section H of the Embassy instructions from Feb 2014 (http://photos.state.gov/libraries/manila/325288/packets/K1%20and%20K2%20Interview%20Preparation%20Instructions%20-%20English%20_updated%2004%20Feb%202014_.pdf)

h. EVIDENCE OF A GENUINE ENGAGEMENT.

You must be prepared to prove to the consular officer

that you have a genuine relationship with your petitioner and a clear intention to marry within 90 days of

admission into the U.S. In the past, successful applicants have submitted photographs, letters,

e-mails, phone records, bank records, and remittance records as evidence supporting their relationships and intent to

marry.

[ChEd 18]

While it doesn't explicitly state that an LOI is needed, it is strongly implied in section H of the Embassy instructions from Feb 2014 (http://photos.state.gov/libraries/manila/325288/packets/K1%20and%20K2%20Interview%20Preparation%20Instructions%20-%20English%20_updated%2004%20Feb%202014_.pdf)

h. EVIDENCE OF A GENUINE ENGAGEMENT.

You must be prepared to prove to the consular officer

that you have a genuine relationship with your petitioner and a clear intention to marry within 90 days of

admission into the U.S. In the past, successful applicants have submitted photographs, letters,

e-mails, phone records, bank records, and remittance records as evidence supporting their relationships and intent to

marry.

Me and Paul are buddies...lol

[_Paul&Jesica_ 70]

Me and Paul are buddies...lol

[rosejosh 2]

Oh yes. Maybe I saw that there.

[Hank_ 9,173]

USEM rarely asks to see the LOI, even though they state you need to have one. However, for documents, like that, if they request, they will want (and probably keep) the originals. The CO wouldn't accept copies of any of the documents they requested, we had to give them originals, including the CENOMAR, BC, and NBI clearance, none of which were returned.

So if they do end up asking for the LOI, you are gambling if only produce a copy instead of the original. While a color printout of a color scan may look to be almost original, it lacks the impressions of the pen used when signing the document and the CO can tell it is a color copy....

I agree the embassy does ask for evidence of a genuine relationship with clear intention to marry so yes it would be good to have the letter even though I have not found anyone that has been asked for the LOI in years. As the saying goes it best to have all the bases covered then to gamble.

h. EVIDENCE OF A GENUINE ENGAGEMENT. You must be prepared to prove to the consular officer

that you have a genuine relationship with your petitioner and a clear intention to marry within 90 days of

admission into the U.S. In the past, successful applicants have submitted photographs, letters, e-mails,

phone records, bank records, and remittance records as evidence supporting their relationships and intent to

marry.

http://photos.state.gov/libraries/manila/1178798/packets/K1%20and%20K2%20Interview%20Preparation%20Instructions%20-%20English%20_updated%2010%20SEP%202014_.pdf

[rosejosh 2]

Yes.. Well I think I will prepare one copy

[VOL 425]

Now of days the I-129f has it on (Regarding getting married within 90 days) there that you signed, Years ago it was not part of the I-129.

[Hank_ 9,173]

The 90 day marriage statement was on the I-129f back in 2011, the 90 marriage oath was also on the 156K, back in the day, that the applicant had to sign in front of the CO. PLUS the applicant had to take a verbal oath swearing to marry within 90 days in front of the CO during the interview.

Are the COs still doing the verbal 90 days marriage oath during the interview?

[_Paul&Jesica_ 70]

The 90 day marriage statement was on the I-129f back in 2011, the 90 marriage oath was also on the 156K, back in the day, that the applicant had to sign in front of the CO. PLUS the applicant had to take a verbal oath swearing to marry within 90 days in front of the CO during the interview.

Are the COs still doing the verbal 90 days marriage oath during the interview?

For my then fiancee's (now wife) interview, there wasn't a verbal oath about the 90 days but the CO did ask us about our plans for marriage that we understood we had 90 days to marry. She just never actually wanted to see the actual LOIs that we prepared and brought with us.

[Zedayn 485]

The 90 day marriage statement was on the I-129f back in 2011, the 90 marriage oath was also on the 156K, back in the day, that the applicant had to sign in front of the CO. PLUS the applicant had to take a verbal oath swearing to marry within 90 days in front of the CO during the interview.

Are the COs still doing the verbal 90 days marriage oath during the interview?

Yes there is an oath you must read at the interview. I can't remember exactly what it said, but I remember it was posted at the interview in 3 languages: English, Tagalog and Bisaya.

[Hank_ 9,173]

For my then fiancee's (now wife) interview, there wasn't a verbal oath about the 90 days but the CO did ask us about our plans for marriage that we understood we had 90 days to marry. She just never actually wanted to see the actual LOIs that we prepared and brought with us.

You were not asked to take an oath. And you did the interview in June 2014. Yet....

Yes there is an oath you must read at the interview. I can't remember exactly what it said, but I remember it was posted at the interview in 3 languages: English, Tagalog and Bisaya.

There was an oath when you interviewed. And you interviewed in July 2014 (a month after Paul & Jesica)

OK? Did one CO forget to take the required oath? Or is the oath not required?

As #5 would say........ More INPUT!

[_Paul&Jesica_ 70]

You were not asked to take an oath. And you did the interview in June 2014. Yet....

There was an oath when you interviewed. And you interviewed in July 2014 (a month after Paul & Jesica)

OK? Did one CO forget to take the required oath? Or is the oath not required?

As #5 would say........ More INPUT!

Hank let me clarify. I think I confused everyone.

My then fiancee took the general oath by reading it back to the CO (it is posted next to the window). But there wasn't any specific oath about intent to marry as best as I can remember (maybe it is in the oath, I don't remember lol?) and I was specifically answering about that. The CO informally asked about our marriage plans and reminded us that we need to marry within 90 days of POE but never asked to see the LOI.

Sorry for the confusion.

[Hank_ 9,173]

That is the oath.

So they still are doing the oath with the CO. Good to know. Thanks.