China police clearance

[Piaoliang2008 3]

Anyone here who have stayed in china( particularly cities outside beijing shanghai or guangzhou) who were able to succesfully secure a police clearance?

I sent message to the chinese consulate here in the phils but they said i can either go there or ask someone from there to get one for me... Wouldnt be a problem if its in the major cities like beijing but other non-urbanized cities dont even know what that is all about :-(

Is there any other way to prove to the consulate the hardship of acquiring one?

[Hank_ 9,174]

http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/fees/reciprocity-by-country/CH.html#docs

Police Records

Generally available, reliable. Persons should apply for a certificate of no criminal record at the local Public Security Bureau (PSB) (or certain types of employers such as state owned enterprises), then make application to the notary office for a certificate based on the PSB document. Persons without a criminal record will be able to obtain a certificate to that effect. Certificates for individuals with one or more criminal convictions will list all convictions for which records still exist. The certificates purport to reflect all criminal convictions during residence in China. Police records are generally not available for the period prior to 1949. Certificates are available for those in the J-1, Z, and X categories. The GOC does not issue police records for temporary residents of China in L or F visa categories.

Police records also are not available for those who were in China in diplomatic status including those working for international organizations such as the United Nations. Notarial police certificates are based in part upon records from an individual's employer. If an employer refuses to release records, the notarial office is not able to issue a certificate. This is the case for persons sent abroad for education by the Chinese Government who fail to return to China.

According to a 1957 state council ruling that is still in force, the imposition of a re-education through labor (Lao Dong Jiao Yu) term does not result from a criminal conviction. Administrative organs, rather than courts, impose re-education through labor. It is important to distinguish re-education through labor from labor reform (Lao Dong Gai Zao), which is a sentence meted out for criminal offenses.

[Piaoliang2008 3]

Thanks hank and yes i have read that one already.... The thing is, when i was there in china(2010) i tried to ask for a police certificate as i knew i will be needing one...but the school told me that they went to inquire at the police abt that and they were told they never issued one so they dont know what that is... What the school did was just draft a certification that i did nt commit any crime while there, with all the impt details about me and have it stamped with the school and police stamp... It was chinese and my assistant just did the translation... And was never notarized too..the place was 3 hours away from beijing and i was the only foreigner there during that time. But that was 2010... I tried emailing said assistant but she is not responding and i dont know anyone from there anymore... I tried contacting someone from beijing(an agency) but they said they only do beijing shanghai and guangzhou(big cities)

[jolyn69 28]

try to visit the china embassy here in manila and ask for help.Because i went to MECO to apply for my Taiwan police clearance and after a month i got it..hope it can help

[Piaoliang2008 3]

try to visit the china embassy here in manila and ask for help.Because i went to MECO to apply for my Taiwan police clearance and after a month i got it..hope it can help

Thanks..... I already did. They said i have to personally go and get it back in china or ask someone to do it for me there. But my contact is not responding. And even if i'll go i doubt if i can get one coz i had a hard time securing one while i was personally there back in 2010... The people in that county where i taught barely know english at all.... My assistant who always interpret for me no longer live in that area

[Hank_ 9,174]

Thanks hank and yes i have read that one already.... The thing is, when i was there in china(2010) i tried to ask for a police certificate as i knew i will be needing one...but the school told me that they went to inquire at the police abt that and they were told they never issued one so they dont know what that is... What the school did was just draft a certification that i did nt commit any crime while there, with all the impt details about me and have it stamped with the school and police stamp... It was chinese and my assistant just did the translation... And was never notarized too..the place was 3 hours away from beijing and i was the only foreigner there during that time. But that was 2010... I tried emailing said assistant but she is not responding and i dont know anyone from there anymore... I tried contacting someone from beijing(an agency) but they said they only do beijing shanghai and guangzhou(big cities)

I suggest you contact the embassy and explain the situation, there may be a known issue getting police certificates from China.

[Piaoliang2008 3]

I suggest you contact the embassy and explain the situation, there may be a known issue getting police certificates from China.

U mean the US embassy here in manila right? Yes, will do that as i have tried every effort that i know....thanks a lot!

[Unico 1]

My fiancé now my wife obtained her China Police Clearance using Visainchina.com and it works. It's your call if you want to use their service. As far as I can remember she have a direct contact with "Magic" Goodluck

[Piaoliang2008 3]

My fiancé now my wife obtained her China Police Clearance using Visainchina.com and it works. It's your call if you want to use their service. As far as I can remember she have a direct contact with "Magic" Goodluck

Thanks for the info.... Yeah, i have contacted that agency but they said they only do beijing...i dont need one from beijing coz i didnt stay in beijing for work....

[Unico 1]

Is it? My wife worked as English Teacher in Shaoxing Zhejiang Keqiao and she needed a police clearance also during her interview and one thing for sure she didn't go personally to China. Let me see if I can provide you solid information.

[Greenbaum 12,259]

Piaoliang2008, on 05 Aug 2014 - 07:23 AM, said:

Thanks for the info.... Yeah, i have contacted that agency but they said they only do beijing...i dont need one from beijing coz i didnt stay in beijing for work....

Their web page states:

2) Our service covers whole China, so wherever city you lived before in China (For example: Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenzhen, FuJian, ShanDong, Tianjin, Chengdu, Jiling, YinChuan, Qingdao etc.), Any Chinese cities we all can help!

I would suggest that you make another call, maybe the person you talked to did not have all the information necessary to answer your question properly.

[Piaoliang2008 3]

Their web page states:

2) Our service covers whole China, so wherever city you lived before in China (For example: Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenzhen, FuJian, ShanDong, Tianjin, Chengdu, Jiling, YinChuan, Qingdao etc.), Any Chinese cities we all can help!

I would suggest that you make another call, maybe the person you talked to did not have all the information necessary to answer your question properly.

Thanks... Will check on that again!

[Piaoliang2008 3]

Ok so i was able to contact one of my students and asked him to search for the police station's number of the county where i taught... He called the police station and he was told i need to be there to get the police certificate myself and they wont give it to anyone else. Do i really have to go there or can i at least, present this effort i made to the embassy?

[Greenbaum 12,259]

Piaoliang2008, on 06 Aug 2014 - 05:52 AM, said:Piaoliang2008, on 06 Aug 2014 - 05:52 AM, said:

Ok so i was able to contact one of my students and asked him to search for the police station's number of the county where i taught... He called the police station and he was told i need to be there to get the police certificate myself and they wont give it to anyone else. Do i really have to go there or can i at least, present this effort i made to the embassy?

This is a problem for many others. Some CO's are lenient when it comes to China. They know the hoops you have to jump through. Having said that, It is only my opinion that you should try the following. Document every effort in writing where available and have it for the interview.

1. Ask your student go to the police station in person and ask your question. When turned down, ask for a document declaring exactly what they said.

2. Go to the China Embassy there in Manila and inquire about getting the police clearance explaining your difficulty in getting one because you have been told you need to appear in person, at this time you do not have a visa that will allow you to return to china.

3. How about the employer that hired you for your position in China. A lot of the times they can help. Again, document your request to the employer and their response. Keep in mind sometimes if you write, they will need to respond with a return answer and now you have your document. Email works to.

4. Copies of emails, telephone logs, lists of whom you contacted and their response.... As well as (limited) proof of your residence (e.g. copies of your visas, any local IDs, addresses for residence and employer... etc. would come in handy with the interview.

5. Are there any agencies that do this type of work for China that can help. I think you mentioned one.

This is about all I have now. Good luck.

PS. Please return and let us know the outcome of the path you chose so others can learn from your experience. Thanks.

Edited August 6, 2014 by Greenbaum

[Piaoliang2008 3]

This is a problem for many others. Some CO's are lenient when it comes to China. They know the hoops you have to jump through. Having said that, It is only my opinion that you should try the following. Document every effort in writing where available and have it for the interview.

1. Ask your student go to the police station in person and ask your question. When turned down, ask for a document declaring exactly what they said.

2. Go to the China Embassy there in Manila and inquire about getting the police clearance explaining your difficulty in getting one because you have been told you need to appear in person, at this time you do not have a visa that will allow you to return to china.

3. How about the employer that hired you for your position in China. A lot of the times they can help. Again, document your request to the employer and their response. Keep in mind sometimes if you write, they will need to respond with a return answer and now you have your document. Email works to.

4. Copies of emails, telephone logs, lists of whom you contacted and their response.... As well as (limited) proof of your residence (e.g. copies of your visas, any local IDs, addresses for residence and employer... etc. would come in handy with the interview.

5. Are there any agencies that do this type of work for China that can help. I think you mentioned one.

This is about all I have now. Good luck.

PS. Please return and let us know the outcome of the path you chose so others can learn from your experience. Thanks.

I have tried contacting the embassy of china and was told i need to go get it myself too, or if i can ask someone to do it for me back there in china.... Other cases may allow someone else to do it in my behalf but obviously, not where i worked... Coz it is just a small county and i was the only foreigner that time... Unfortunately, my student also told me the school where i taught is no Longer operating. Its already closed!

Yes, i will try to reconsider the services of an agency. I just need my student to validate it for me if they are legit.

Will post updates from time to time.

Thanks!