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I am here on my Fathers L visa and my I-94 Expires at the end of November, even though I turned 21 at the end of January. On the advice of my first lawyer I was told i was fine to stay and would not be out of status, as the I-94 had not expired. Now the time has come to change the visa I am on, I have been told that I may infact be out of status as I turned 21 in January and the 180 days have past.

Does anyone have any advice on how to proceed, or knowledge of a similar situation to help me with?

Thanks

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As long as your I 94 is still valid, you aren't considered out of status, and you can't accrue "unlawful presence." Who told you that you were out of status, another lawyer? If so, I wouldn't know who to believe. However, if it was anybody else, I would only trust what the lawyer told me, if he's reputable anyway. Also, you may be able to change to F1, but I don't know if you could do it while still here in the US or if you would have to leave and apply abroad.

This does not constitute legal advice.

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Yes that's the problem, I have one lawyer telling me I am fine as the I-94 is still valid, which is why I stayed past my 21st birthday. This lawyer moved to Washington DC, and so I reached out to another local lawyer that other people have had success with, and her advice was that as it technically should've expired upon me turning 21, it is invalid and when i try and apply for a new visa they will have a hard time approving because of this.

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That's what I hate about lawyers, or should I say LIARS. How are you supposed to know which one is right? I mean the CBP officer should know whether to authorize the stay until you turned 21 or not, when you entered. They do have discretion so he could've let it be valid until the end of your visa. I would consult another lawyer, one with plenty of years of experience on immigration law, preferably nonimmigrant visas. Also with verifiable reputation. Think of it like getting a second opinion on a medical decision. Then whatever he says, would be what you base your decision on. This is an important decision to make and you want to make sure you don't do anything that would hamper any future visas based on bad legal advice. This is the best I can tell you. Good luck!

Yes that's the problem, I have one lawyer telling me I am fine as the I-94 is still valid, which is why I stayed past my 21st birthday. This lawyer moved to Washington DC, and so I reached out to another local lawyer that other people have had success with, and her advice was that as it technically should've expired upon me turning 21, it is invalid and when i try and apply for a new visa they will have a hard time approving because of this.

This does not constitute legal advice.

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It looks like as long as your I-94 is valid you are not out of status because you haven't otherwise violated your visa. You were authorized to stay in the country up until the date on your I-94 even though you turned 21. It looks like your first lawyer was right. As long as you leave the US or change to another visa class like F1, for example, you wouldn't be denied, because you have a perfectly valid I-94 and you haven't been "found" to have violated your status. I found this:

"Overstays" are nonimmigrants who have remained in the United States beyond
the expiration date on their I-94 cards. If a nonimmigrant overstays the date certain on
his or her 1-94 card by even one day without having filed a petition for change or
extension of status prior to expiration, he or she will be unable to change or extend
nonimmigrant status and must apply for a new visa (and all future nonimmigrant visas)
in his or her country of nationality. INA §222(g). This fact comes as a shock and
disappointment to many foreign nationals who have grown accustomed to the
convenience of applying for visas as third country nationals at a U.S. Consulate of
convenience in Canada or Mexico.
2. Application of INA §212(a)(9)(B) – The Three- and Ten-Year
Bars
Another consequence overstays face is the accrual of "unlawful presence."
Unlawful presence means physical presence in the United States after the expiration of
the period of authorized stay or without having been admitted or paroled. INA
§212(a)(9)(B)(ii). For a status violator who has not overstayed the authorized period of
stay noted on his or her I-94 card, unlawful presence begins to accrue when the INS
makes a determination that a status violation has occurred. For an overstay, however,
accrual of days of unlawful presence begins the day after the expiration date on the I-94
card. An individual who is unlawfully present in the United States for more than 180
consecutive days but less than one year and who voluntarily departs the United States is
inadmissible for a period of three years after departure. INA §212(a)(9)(B)(i)(I). An
individual who accrues one year or more of unlawful presence is inadmissible for a
period of ten years after departing the United States voluntarily. INA §212(a)(9)(B)(i)(II).
Note that days in unlawful presence must be consecutive; multiple periods of unlawful
presence, each not exceeding 180 days and separated by departures from the United
States, are not aggregated for purposes of the three- and ten-year bars. INS
Memorandum 96ACT043 HQIRT 50/5.12, June 17, 1997, reprinted in 74 Interpreter
Releases 1046.
Here is the link:

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Welcome to the forum. The OP hasn't logged on to the site in 2 years, so a reply is unlikely. Start a new topic of your own, with a meaningful Subject title, and ask.

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06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

 
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