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I agree and I am not using it to justify Obama. I am just pointing out that this is the only defense these people have in defense of the terrible job Obama is doing.

Ok Bush sucked. Got ya. He ain't President anymore so what does that have to do with it.

Obama ran on change ,transparency . open Gov't, restoring the dignity of the Executive office and . Specifically said he would restore the constitution and not use signing statements and executive orders, like Bush did .

Guess what. He saw Bush and doubled down. He has done every bad thing Bush did, but has done it to the 10th power. However oddly enough.. It's ok now

It's not a defence of Obama - it's a reasonable question. There doesn't seem to be an appetite from either party except prolong the status quo. So who is going to take definitive stand on this issue?

Is there anyone? If so, would you vote for them in an election?

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I agree and I am not using it to justify Obama. I am just pointing out that this is the only defense these people have in defense of the terrible job Obama is doing.

Ok Bush sucked. Got ya. He ain't President anymore so what does that have to do with it.

Obama ran on change ,transparency . open Gov't, restoring the dignity of the Executive office and . Specifically said he would restore the constitution and not use signing statements and executive orders, like Bush did .

Guess what. He saw Bush and doubled down. He has done every bad thing Bush did, but has done it to the 10th power. However oddly enough.. It's ok now

Actually when it comes the to VA, Obama did more than the presidents before him. there were several things he implemented that benefited veterans.

But I know no one outside of his loyal supporters will say that outloud.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

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He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

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There's nothing wrong with criticizing him. But be clear. Here, it's more or less bashing him senseless rather than the actual problem. Anytime you say he the worst president of all time and your name isn't Conner or Duncan Mccleod, your statement is silly.

He is the worst President of my lifetime, maybe. Jimmy Carter was neck in neck.

Actually when it comes the to VA, Obama did more than the presidents before him. there were several things he implemented that benefited veterans.

But I know no one outside of his loyal supporters will say that outloud.

Yes sir he really turned it around, what with death lists, cover ups, Vets dying while there names were on lists in drawers. Thank You obama

You know you trying to give him some kind of silly sunshine up my butt points for making it better is just as absurd as those that say the whole mess is 100% his fault.

I saw an article about EPA employees craping in the hall at one of the buildings. It went on to say, this is how Obama's employees behave. Now that is absurd. As if he has insight into some EPA staffers actions. However just as absurd is you guys that keep trying to make him not responsible for anything

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He is the worst President of my lifetime, maybe. Jimmy Carter was neck in neck.

Yes sir he really turned it around, what with death lists, cover ups, Vets dying while there names were on lists in drawers. Thank You obama

You know you trying to give him some kind of silly sunshine up my butt points for making it better is just as absurd as those that say the whole mess is 100% his fault.

I saw an article about EPA employees craping in the hall at one of the buildings. It went on to say, this is how Obama's employees behave. Now that is absurd. As if he has insight into some EPA staffers actions. However just as absurd is you guys that keep trying to make him not responsible for anything

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/subjects/veterans/

I know you hate him.

Edit: You think he was worse than GWB? Really?

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“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

President-Obama-jpg.jpg

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He is the worst President of my lifetime, maybe. Jimmy Carter was neck in neck.

Carter was a piker compared to this twerp. Carter's sin was micromanaging everything. He never learned to delegate authority.

Obama's failing is ignoring the will of the people (check polls on any major issue,or even the OP), regularly wiping his feet on the Constitution, and brazenly lying about a whole variety of things. Tthat whole "Chicago thug politics" thing isn't very charming either.

No contest: worst preznit . . . evah!

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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/subjects/veterans/

I know you hate him.

Edit: You think he was worse than GWB? Really?

No I don't hate him. So anything positive that has happened in the last 6 years Obam,a gets direct credit for. Anything bad it's Bush's fault .. Got you

So if he is responsible for all of that, then he is also responsible for the death lists in Phoenix right ?

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Carter was a piker compared to this twerp. Carter's sin was micromanaging everything. He never learned to delegate authority.

Obama's failing is ignoring the will of the people (check polls on any major issue,or even the OP), regularly wiping his feet on the Constitution, and brazenly lying about a whole variety of things. Tthat whole "Chicago thug politics" thing isn't very charming either.

No contest: worst preznit . . . evah!

You seem to understand the issues. They had a show on the other day about the different chief's of staffs for the different Presidents. It was called The Predients gatekeepers. It was intresting. When interviewing many of the Carter staffers, it ws apaprant he was not much liked or respected. It was the same theme, he would not give anybody an opportunity have an opnion of listen to them when they did . He also broguht his wife in to Cabinet meetings, and you can imagine how that went over.

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No I don't hate him. So anything positive that has happened in the last 6 years Obam,a gets direct credit for. Anything bad it's Bush's fault .. Got you

So if he is responsible for all of that, then he is also responsible for the death lists in Phoenix right ?

I asked, is he worse than GWB? Because he's the worse in your lifetime, this means under his leadership, things are worse than when GWB was at the helm? It's like the folks that support the GOP have completely forgotten what happened under Bush. Or is it we can only make the comparison if it's negative against Obama?

Edit: You agree with Unclebeer, when does Obama act like a thug? Please show me.

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“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

President-Obama-jpg.jpg

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I asked, is he worse than GWB? Because he's the worse in your lifetime, this means under his leadership, things are worse than when GWB was at the helm? It's like the folks that support the GOP have completely forgotten what happened under Bush. Or is it we can only make the comparison if it's negative against Obama?

Edit: You agree with Unclebeer, when does Obama act like a thug? Please show me.

I agreed with him on Carter. He did not say Obama was a thug, he said Thug style Chicago politics. Obama surely does not act thugish, but since you seem to acknowledge there is such a thing as acting thugish now, I will take that as a small victory and move on .

Please remind when Ramadan starts. I will try not to eat a big fat Pork sammich while i am talking to you LOL.. I will go easy on you during Ramadan as part of my newly found cultural awareness.

I trained some Officers from Jordan and Saudi, once during Ramadan. Poor guys, could not eat all day .. We had one officer from the Saudi Natl Guard. evidently you have to be of a certain lineage or royalty or something to be in the Guard. That guy was a drinking partying machine. Said he had to escape to Thailand regularly to have fun. The Jordanians were real serious types, very polite and humble, but very serious about their Islam. The other Saudi officers liked to have a little fun, but were very very discrete about it. They would make the rounds to have a roll in the hay with the ugly female officers.

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I agreed with him on Carter. He did not say Obama was a thug, he said Thug style Chicago politics. Obama surely does not act thugish, but since you seem to acknowledge there is such a thing as acting thugish now, I will take that as a small victory and move on .

Please remind when Ramadan starts. I will try not to eat a big fat Pork sammich while i am talking to you LOL.. I will go easy on you during Ramadan as part of my newly found cultural awareness.

I trained some Officers from Jordan and Saudi, once during Ramadan. Poor guys, could not eat all day .. We had one officer from the Saudi Natl Guard. evidently you have to be of a certain lineage or royalty or something to be in the Guard. That guy was a drinking partying machine. Said he had to escape to Thailand regularly to have fun. The Jordanians were real serious types, very polite and humble, but very serious about their Islam. The other Saudi officers liked to have a little fun, but were very very discrete about it. They would make the rounds to have a roll in the hay with the ugly female officers.

It starts tonight around sunset. I'll act a fool until then.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

President-Obama-jpg.jpg

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Actually when it comes the to VA, Obama did more than the presidents before him. there were several things he implemented that benefited veterans.

But I know no one outside of his loyal supporters will say that outloud.

Whoooh....This hurts. The truth is the VA has been in a terminal state of decline since the early '60's'. Vietnam Vets, the maimed, wounded, when they returned home and trustingly went to the VA for help they were unceremoniously got shown the door, it was a deliberate exclusionary policy. This, I believe, has been a deliberate policy to discredit and destroy the VA healthcare system. Think, who benefits ?

This administration has done almost nothing to make it better. Flatline funding, when we should improving infrastructure, and streamlining the bureaucracy. Rather than the Administration, Senate and House taking the blame for their failures, when the latest VA scandal broke out, who was instructed to fall on his sword ? General Shinseki, a highly decorated war Veteran, a Veterans Veteran. I get more than a little sick when the President rolls maimed MOH hero's in front of the media because I know the disconnect between what is said in public, and what is done in secret...

Lest I forget, Obama just sent $500 Million to the 'moderate' Syrian rebels for arms. I think that half billion should have gone more wisely spent at home..My .02

Rob187

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It starts tonight around sunset. I'll act a fool until then.

How about the really important stuff like sex ?

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Obama surely does not act thugish

Gawd, I wish I could 'ignore' his quoted material as well. <_<

Obama employs Chicago thug politics. Ever heard of Alice Palmer?

In his first race for office, seeking a state Senate seat on Chicago's gritty South Side in 1996, Obama effectively used election rules to eliminate his Democratic competition.

As a community organizer, he had helped register thousands of voters. But when it came time to run for office, he employed Chicago rules to invalidate the voting petition signatures of three of his challengers.

The move denied each of them, including incumbent Alice Palmer, a longtime Chicago activist, a place on the ballot. It cleared the way for Obama to run unopposed on the Democratic ticket in a heavily Democrat district.

"That was Chicago politics," said John Kass, a veteran Chicago Tribune columnist. "Knock out your opposition, challenge their petitions, destroy your enemy, right? It is how Barack Obama destroyed his enemies back in 1996

Ever heard of Jack Ryan?

His 2004 campaign for the Senate, against future president Barack Obama, received widespread media attention for the disclosure of sealed custody documents stemming from his divorce from actress Jeri Ryan. The unsealing of those documents ultimately led to Ryan's withdrawal from the campaign.

...or Blair Hull?

One month before the 2004 Democratic primary for the U.S. Senate, Obama was down in the polls, about to lose to Blair Hull, a multimillionaire securities trader. But then the Chicago Tribune leaked the claim that Hull's second ex-wife, Brenda Sexton, had sought an order of protection against him during their 1998 divorce proceedings.

Those records were under seal, but as The New York Times noted: "The Tribune reporter who wrote the original piece later acknowledged in print that the Obama camp had 'worked aggressively behind the scenes' to push the story." Many people said Axelrod had "an even more significant role -- that he leaked the initial story."

Both Hull and his ex-wife opposed releasing their sealed divorce records, but they finally relented in response to the media's hysteria -- 18 days before the primary.

Are you aware the preznit accepted foreign campaign contributions? In two different elections. With impunity.

Plenty more I can provide, but the point is: there's a pattern here. Ignore it if you relish your ignorance.

Lest I forget, Obama just sent $500 Million to the 'moderate' Syrian rebels for arms. I think that half billion should have gone more wisely spent at home..My .02

Now that's crazy talk. :rofl:

 

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