sputum smear negative Yay! :D

[sol_enn 2]

I went back to St. Lukes last June 6 for the result of my 3 days sputum test done last June 2, 3 and 4. I was really feel happy when the doctor said that the result were all negative. But, still need to wait for 2 months for sputum culture, and so another waiting Hoping and praying that the result of that culture is negative as well. I really can't wait to be with my fiance. I'm almost there! <3

[TBoneTX 47,533]

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[Greenbaum 12,260]

sol_enn, on 12 Jun 2014 - 11:43 PM, said:

I went back to St. Lukes last June 6 for the result of my 3 days sputum test done last June 2, 3 and 4. I was really feel happy when the doctor said that the result were all negative. But, still need to wait for 2 months for sputum culture, and so another waiting Hoping and praying that the result of that culture is negative as well. I really can't wait to be with my fiance. I'm almost there! <3

Congratulations for passing your first hurdle. Stay positive and keep your faith. That's another stepping stone on the path to your visa.

[LuckyTwo14 1]

Good luck. SLEC called us 3 weeks after negative sputum and now fiancée started 6 months of Direct Treatment Observation (DTO). SLEC watches them take a tablet Monday through Friday, no holidays.

Sputum culture 2 month test is about 85% accurate. 15% of positive sputum is false positive.

Chances are that if you have to do sputum then you are going to have to do the treatment and you become healthy and a success statistic for the World Health Organization and the Center for Disease Control TB Elimination Program so another person with no symptoms is "cured"

Approximately 1 in 385 Philippine citizens have TB. Whether it's active with cough or latent doesn't matter. SLEC will quarantine to the country.

[sol_enn 2]

I just wish SLEC will not call me before 2 months. Because as what I'e read here on vj's, if they call earlier than two months meaning the result is positive. This two months is such a waste of time.

[Greenbaum 12,260]

sol_enn, on 14 Jun 2014 - 06:47 AM, said:sol_enn, on 14 Jun 2014 - 06:47 AM, said:

I just wish SLEC will not call me before 2 months. Because as what I'e read here on vj's, if they call earlier than two months meaning the result is positive. This two months is such a waste of time.

So, if someone is trying to save your life with the TB process, and to you it's a waste of time? Did you know that TB kills.

Edited June 15, 2014 by Greenbaum

[LuckyTwo14 1]

So, if someone is trying to save your life with the TB process, and to you it's a waste of time? Did you know that TB kills.

Yes, I think it's a waste of time to have someone live in a city for 7 months to spend 30 minutes a day to take a tablet once a day, or Monday through Friday excluding holidays. I'm capable of giving my fiancée 1 of 120 tablets each day here in the USA. Believe me we have that kind of service here.

The PI is just following the WHO and CDC protocols because of the visa. If the country really cared then it wouldn't take a visa process to detect and "cure" it.

Edited June 15, 2014 by LuckyTwo14

[Hank_ 9,174]

A person doesn't need to wait for a required medical for a visa to in order to go to a doctor and be tested, then if found positive do the treatment, but people don't do that until "forced to".

As for DOT (Direct Observation Therapy), the whole premise is the verify the medication is being taken as required. There a many that start treatment but do not complete the whole series of medications, by quitting before completion leads toward resistant strains of TB... thus the reason for DOT.

A component of case management that helps to ensure that patients adhere to treatment is directly observed therapy (DOT). DOT is the most effective strategy for making sure patients take their medicines. DOT means that a health care worker or other designated individual watches the patient swallow every dose of the prescribed drugs. DOT should be considered for all patients because it is difficult to reliably predict which patients will be adherent. Even patients who intend to take their medicine might have trouble remembering to take their pills every time. All DOT visits should be documented. In many health departments, DOT is the standard of care. Figure 9.2 is an example of a form used to monitor and document a patient's DOT

http://www.cdc.gov/tb/education/ssmodules/module9/ss9reading2.htm

[LuckyTwo14 1]

It's just the way CDC wants it done in recent years. What happens to those fiancees that are dumped because the sponsor doesn't want to wait? My guess is that because there is no longer financial support to live close to SLEC for 6 months then the ex-fiancée doesn't complete the DOT and no one cares.

It's just a huge waste of time (in my opinion) to live somewhere for 6 months just to take a tablet when the bottle of tablets could be taken in the USA. I really doubt the "positive" person would choose to flush the tablets down the toilet if entrusted to take the tablets on their own.

Edited June 15, 2014 by LuckyTwo14

[Greenbaum 12,260]

LuckyTwo14, on 14 Jun 2014 - 10:55 PM, said:

Yes, I think it's a waste of time to have someone live in a city for 7 months to spend 30 minutes a day to take a tablet once a day, or Monday through Friday excluding holidays. I'm capable of giving my fiancée 1 of 120 tablets each day here in the USA. Believe me we have that kind of service here.

The PI is just following the WHO and CDC protocols because of the visa. If the country really cared then it wouldn't take a visa process to detect and "cure" it.

LuckyTwo14, on 15 Jun 2014 - 01:51 AM, said:

It's just the way CDC wants it done in recent years. What happens to those fiancees that are dumped because the sponsor doesn't want to wait? My guess is that because there is no longer financial support to live close to SLEC for 6 months then the ex-fiancée doesn't complete the DOT and no one cares.

It's just a huge waste of time (in my opinion) to live somewhere for 6 months just to take a tablet when the bottle of tablets could be taken in the USA. I really doubt the "positive" person would choose to flush the tablets down the toilet if entrusted to take the tablets on their own.

Most of us here don't disagree with your logic. But, having said that I would have to agree with Hank and his assessment. No one wants a pandemic to start in any country and not in the USA. Yes, some guys are not that committed to spend the time or money to support their Pinay during a very difficult time. I find that unpalatable to say the least. But when you need your significant other and they bail on you, then they are not worth the time to marry. Just my HO.

[LuckyTwo14 1]

Sol_enn, best of luck with best result!

[LuckyTwo14 1]

Most of us here don't disagree with your logic. But, having said that I would have to agree with Hank and his assessment. No one wants a pandemic to start in any country and not in the USA. Yes, some guys are not that committed to spend the time or money to support their Pinay during a very difficult time. I find that unpalatable to say the least. But when you need your significant other and they bail on you, then they are not worth the time to marry. Just my HO.

I think I'm just going to quit me job and move there, lol. Because she is worth it

In America we have about 1,000 Mexicans each day sneak in to America from our south border. Who knows what disease they bring ... Anyway they can become public charge financially to USA government and that's not really a problem. Both those things are show stoppers for the kind people of the Philippines who are coming to America.

My point is that the good few kind people of the Philippines could bring their bottle of tablets here and wear a mask and I think that would be ok because it's probably not that many cases.

Best of luck to all.

Edited June 16, 2014 by LuckyTwo14

[Hank_ 9,174]

Tell me about illegals coming across the border... and how NOTHING is being done. What pictures?

You can rant about the DOT process, don't know if it will make you feel better though, it is what it is and it has to be completed before the "gold ring" can be grabbed.

[LuckyTwo14 1]

Tell me about illegals coming across the border... and how NOTHING is being done. What pictures?

You can rant about the DOT process, don't know if it will make you feel better though, it is what it is and it has to be completed before the "gold ring" can be grabbed.

I think it has made me feel better to write my thoughts down in this forum and to realize what is most important to me and that is moving to Manila to be with her. I don't particularly need to work and it seems more and more the best choice is to go there.

I appreciate you entertaining my rant Hank, lol. I don't have any pictures of the Mexican info I wrote other than media.

[Hank_ 9,174]

I think it has made me feel better to write my thoughts down in this forum and to realize what is most important to me and that is moving to Manila to be with her. I don't particularly need to work and it seems more and more the best choice is to go there.

I appreciate you entertaining my rant Hank, lol. I don't have any pictures of the Mexican info I wrote other than media.

I have been driving down the road and watch illegals running through the brush, then not far behind them... CBP agents