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Do I need an apostille for original USSR Birth Certificate and Police Certificate?

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dear7   1

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Hello,

I'v got a letter from the NVC asking me to send my original Birth Certificate + Ukraine Police Certificate.

1. Do I need an apostille for original USSR Birth Certificate?

2. I found an agency that can obtain my Police Certification and send to me. Do I need to ask them to add an apostille? Do the NVC asking for an apostille for Police Certification?

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1. No apostille required. I'm curious if you could even get a USSR certificate apostiled since the USSR isn't around anymore. You could also submit the transcribed certificate issued by Ukraine

2. No need for an Apostille

See this site: http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/immigrate/immigrant-process/documents/submit/documents-to-submit-to-nvc.html

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1. No apostille required. I'm curious if you could even get a USSR certificate apostiled since the USSR isn't around anymore. You could also submit the transcribed certificate issued by Ukraine

2. No need for an Apostille

See this site: http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/immigrate/immigrant-process/documents/submit/documents-to-submit-to-nvc.html

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My wife has a USSR birth certificate. She had it translated and they did apostille at the time of translation because Russians seem to think every document requires an apostille, but I am quite sure that the apostille is not necessary.

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If it's Ukraine, than no appostile is requiered for the Birth Cert or Police Cert. for the US Consulate in Kiev. As far as I was reading no need to do that if she is already in USA. (Birth Cert. you simply translate).

In Ukraine the only thing they (we) do is old USSR birth cert they change for new Ukrainian one, this is done in ZAGS (Civil Registry office)

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You should get it apostilled regardless. At some point (not even with NVC but in general) someone will ask for it and you will need an apostille for it to be valid in USA. It's really worth doing it and saving the headache in the future. Same applies for most documents. Good to always have a translation and an apostille for whenever necesary. Apostilles don't expire.

As for whether you can even apostille a USSR certificate the answer my wife got in Russia was a no. She was told by the office that does apostilles that she needed to go to ZAGS, request a new Russian birth certificate, and then take that. She did all of that in about one business week. 1 day for new certiticate just showing USSR one, one day to get it apostilled, 1 day for notarizing and translating it, 1 day to mail it to me. The reason why each thing takes a day is because most offices were only open a certain time of the day for that paperwork so she ended up finishing one step and having to wait until the next day for next, also ZAGS only deals with birth certificate like 2 days of the week. lol

Anyway afaik NVC doesnt officially require apostilles but again just get it, you won't regret it and after all if you have the time why risk a RFE. As for Police Report NVC DOES NOT ask for Police Certificate and while I don't know about Ukraine, in Russia you either go to police station and wait about a month or do it through gososlugi or something that sounds like that :P and it takes 2 weeks (its like the goverment online portal)

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You should get it apostilled regardless. At some point (not even with NVC but in general) someone will ask for it and you will need an apostille for it to be valid in USA. It's really worth doing it and saving the headache in the future. Same applies for most documents. Good to always have a translation and an apostille for whenever necesary. Apostilles don't expire.

As for whether you can even apostille a USSR certificate the answer my wife got in Russia was a no. She was told by the office that does apostilles that she needed to go to ZAGS, request a new Russian birth certificate, and then take that. She did all of that in about one business week. 1 day for new certiticate just showing USSR one, one day to get it apostilled, 1 day for notarizing and translating it, 1 day to mail it to me. The reason why each thing takes a day is because most offices were only open a certain time of the day for that paperwork so she ended up finishing one step and having to wait until the next day for next, also ZAGS only deals with birth certificate like 2 days of the week. lol

Anyway afaik NVC doesnt officially require apostilles but again just get it, you won't regret it and after all if you have the time why risk a RFE. As for Police Report NVC DOES NOT ask for Police Certificate and while I don't know about Ukraine, in Russia you either go to police station and wait about a month or do it through gososlugi or something that sounds like that tongue.png and it takes 2 weeks (its like the goverment online portal)

You wouldn't get an RFE (checklist) if they're not apostilled. Also i've heard of a lot of cases when people did the apostilles and it was never ever used in future. *shrugs* Really up to you.

NVC does ask for a Police Certificate btw.

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i made a typo. I meant to say NVC does not require apostille in police certificate tongue.png

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Always double check your documents and forms. Not only do you get delayed by RFEs and Checklists, but the time it takes for them to review the new items you send could be used to approve more applications. Save yourself and others valuable time!

Current Status: NVC:
-Assigned and Received NVC Case Number, IIN, and BIN April 18, 2014. (100% sure case # was assigned today because I called twice and it wasn't assigned in the morning when they opened but in the afternoon it was)
*Could not provide email then as case was still being updated in their system
-On April 21, 2014 I was able to provide my email and beneficiary's.
-On April 28 I was able to fill out DS-261
-On April 29 I received and paid AOS Fee (at 1pm)
-On May 1 I received and paid IV Fee (at 1pm [became available]), also AOS Fee shows as PAID
-On May 5 IV Fee shows as PAID and DS-260 became available and was completed. Also, AOS Package Scanned by NVC

-On May 7 IV Package Scanned by NVC

-On May 28 AOS Accepted

-On June 2 IV Accepted/Case Complete

-On June 11 Interview Email Received

-On July 3 Interview at Moscow

Note: Medical Exam scheduled after interview letter received by calling the specific clinic, earliest appointment was 2 weeks ahead)

-Visa approved, came to us, got greencard, sadly things didnt go well and divorced. Last I hears she was still in the US and got a full greencard (I notified USCIS of divorce though)

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