July - January CSC Filers Who Have Been Skipped Over

[Bugs 455]

Post here if you are one of them. I'm not, as I am an April filer, but it concerns me that they have skipped so many over those months the past few weeks in their path to the Februarly petitions they are apparently processing now. Only the returned RFEs seem to be the exception.

I believe this needs to be addressed or it will become a lingering problem for many. Already there is one member, JBForever, who has been waiting 11 months now, with no signs of anything despite phone calls, emails, and attempts at information.

There doesn't seem to be much of an indication they go back to these, but just keep going forward. Did something happen to these files? Did they get lost in the flood? What? Time to start banding together and making your voice heard.

[stevie b 141]

Post here if you are one of them. I'm not, as I am an April filer, but it concerns me that they have skipped so many over those months the past few weeks in their path to the Februarly petitions they are apparently processing now. Only the returned RFEs seem to be the exception.

I believe this needs to be addressed or it will become a lingering problem for many. Already there is one member, JBForever, who has been waiting 11 months now, with no signs of anything despite phone calls, emails, and attempts at information.

There doesn't seem to be much of an indication they go back to these, but just keep going forward. Did something happen to these files? Did they get lost in the flood? What? Time to start banding together and making your voice heard.

for a k-1, you have to be prepared for a 5-10 month wait.. that is just the way it is.. a 5 month goal is just that.. a goal, not a promise. there is a tremendous backlog at all the centers. there are also rumblings that 129's are starting to go out to local offices for adjudication.. sometimes that is good, sometimes not.. all depends on the office itself.

you are fortunate that you are in san diego meaning that if you really get interested in mining some info on your case, you can take an infopass in laguna nigel.

there was nothing lost in the flood, it's possible some files got wet, but nothing was damaged beyond repair.. there has been absolutely no confirmation of file damage at that location

[Bugs 455]

for a k-1, you have to be prepared for a 5-10 month wait.. that is just the way it is.. a 5 month goal is just that.. a goal, not a promise. there is a tremendous backlog at all the centers. there are also rumblings that 129's are starting to go out to local offices for adjudication.. sometimes that is good, sometimes not.. all depends on the office itself.

you are fortunate that you are in san diego meaning that if you really get interested in mining some info on your case, you can take an infopass in laguna nigel.

there was nothing lost in the flood, it's possible some files got wet, but nothing was damaged beyond repair.. there has been absolutely no confirmation of file damage at that location

I don't mind waiting, but I would be concerned if I were one of those filers that was skipped over. Yes, people in the past have had to wait up to 10 months before, but at least they could have a good sense of where they are in line. In other words, the complaints were about how long the line is moving, not about being skipped over entirely. And even that wouldn't concern me greatly if they showed that they regularly go back to them later. But all this past week, they haven't been processing any petition except February. Return RFEs are the exception.

I'm an April filer, so my turn is not yet anyways. But if I were standing in a literal line, watching people get called to the front, and saw that they skipped over huge numbers of people along the way, it would scare me in that I could be one of those skipped when it is supposed to be my turn and left to linger for months.

The line being slow doesn't bother me. The fact that there is no rhyme or reason in going down the line does.

Edited June 2, 2013 by Leon & Mylen

[stevie b 141]

I don't mind waiting, but I would be concerned if I were one of those filers that was skipped over. Yes, people in the past have had to wait up to 10 months before, but at least they could have a good sense of where they are in line. In other words, the complaints were about how long the line is moving, not about being skipped over entirely. And even that wouldn't concern me greatly if they showed that they regularly go back to them later. But all this past week, they haven't been processing any petition except February. Return RFEs are the exception.

I'm an April filer, so my turn is not yet anyways. But if I were standing in a literal line, watching people get called to the front, and saw that they skipped over huge numbers of people along the way, it would scare me in that I could be one of those skipped when it is supposed to be my turn and left to linger for months.

The line being slow doesn't bother me. The fact that there is no rhyme or reason in going down the line does.

I actually understand it completely differently.. it is not a straight line. there are tens of thousands of petitions for fiancée and hundreds of case workers. uscis got backlogged with daca and tried to farm out the petitions to offices in an attempt to have them processed. so now you have new offices (probably dozens) processing cases that normally do not. when you put these things together and consider that every case worker's workload is different and is in different stages.. it is impossible to have a straight line.

don't get me wrong, I would love it to be different for everyone, and I actually think that I got my 130 approved before my original 129 would have ever been approved.. but now I am stuck as well with my approved petition still sitting in the office that approved it with no way out.. and I am not one to sit still, so I am running around now shaking and rattling every friggin tree out there until the walnut I am after falls to the ground.

I also think that being an april filer is a good thing since a lot of the backlog has been figured out, maybe not worked out, but I believe you will be looking at a normal processing time of +/- 5 months

[Bugs 455]

I actually understand it completely differently.. it is not a straight line. there are tens of thousands of petitions for fiancée and hundreds of case workers. uscis got backlogged with daca and tried to farm out the petitions to offices in an attempt to have them processed. so now you have new offices (probably dozens) processing cases that normally do not. when you put these things together and consider that every case worker's workload is different and is in different stages.. it is impossible to have a straight line.

don't get me wrong, I would love it to be different for everyone, and I actually think that I got my 130 approved before my original 129 would have ever been approved.. but now I am stuck as well with my approved petition still sitting in the office that approved it with no way out.. and I am not one to sit still, so I am running around now shaking and rattling every friggin tree out there until the walnut I am after falls to the ground.

I also think that being an april filer is a good thing since a lot of the backlog has been figured out, maybe not worked out, but I believe you will be looking at a normal processing time of +/- 5 months

Yes, I have heard that argument before too, about the fact that some officers move quicker than others and that the faster officers simply have depleted their workload and gotten the next batch (Feb). If that were the case, though, we would still see the one or two earlier files approved every few days while these newer ones are approved as well, indicating the slower officers are at least moving, albiet slowly. But we don't even see that.

But yeah, lol, I am like you, in that I woudln't stand still if I were past the processing time of 5 months. The fact that I even made a thread anticipating such a scenario should be evidence enough lol. Your advice on an infopass is a good one and something I will probably do if mine doesn't get processed by then. Thanks, and good luck on your journey.

Edited June 2, 2013 by Leon & Mylen

[JBForever 12]

Yes, I have heard that argument before too, about the fact that some officers move quicker than others and that the faster officers simply have depleted their workload and gotten the next batch (Feb). If that were the case, though, we would still see the one or two earlier files approved every few days while these newer ones are approved as well, indicating the slower officers are at least moving, albiet slowly. But we don't even see that.

But yeah, lol, I am like you, in that I woudln't stand still if I were past the processing time of 5 months. The fact that I even made a thread anticipating such a scenario should be evidence enough lol. Your advice on an infopass is a good one and something I will probably do if mine doesn't get processed by then. Thanks, and good luck on your journey.

thanks for starting this thread Leon & Mylen. Thanks also to Stevie B for sharing his take on this scenario. i appreciate the tips and advice guys.

But you gotta remember that the processing time for CSC never changed from July 18, 2012 since December 31, 2012 until May 20th of this year. In that light, we couldnt get an infopass or e-request as they say we are within normal processing times. From january until may 20, all we could do was call the uscis and follow-up. and all they keep telling us is we are within the norm and just gotta wait our turn. During those times, we see October thru December filers getting approved left and right. Then, April 2013, we became hopeful because finally, we see July thru September filers being approved by the dozen each day if not each week. Then, it came to a halt again and we see now they are approving January and Feb 2013 filers, The USCIS website only updated their processing time to 5 months on May 21st.

I would definitely check on the info pass option Stevie B. Thanks for all your concern as we are really getting down with our case not being processed at all when all the rest were already given approvals. I can understand your logic about individual differences of efficiency in adjudicating cases but does this mean our case was assigned to someone who have been doing cases since January 2013(perhaps?) until May 31 2013? and still unable to get to our july 26 file? when all the rest of his colleagues are done with their assignments and are now processing February 2013 filers? i wonder how many cases were assigned to him to still not get to our case yet? are we at the bottom of his/her pile? here is the list of the filers same(or almost the same) as my filing date:

I129F PETITIONS FILED

WAC#3740-approved 5/17

WAC#3741-RFEd4/23, rfe review 5/16 approved 5/29

WAC#3742-approved 4/19

WAC#3743-approved 4/19

WAC#3744-approved 4/24

WAC#3745-Denied 5/3

WAC#3746 MINE 7/26

WAC#3747-approved 4/19

WAC#3748-RFEd 4/30 approved 5/14

WAC#3749-approved 4/19

WAC#3758-RFEd 4/19 Approved 5/15

WAC#3759-APPROVED4/17

WAC#3760-7/26

WAC#3761-7/26

WAC#3762-approved 4/19

WAC#3763-approved 4/19

WAC#3764-approved 4/22

WAC#3765-APPROVED4/17

WAC#3766-7/26

If you will notice, most of them were approved or at least got an RFE, but we never got anything all this time that is why i find it rather confusing why they cant get around to processing our files when the current files being approved are that of Feb 2013? I am happy for all of them who got approved but can they at least look at ours too? we waited patiently....more patience than anyone could muster...if it aint asking too much....

oh well, that is me just venting coz the waiting is just too much at this point....again, my gratitude for all those that can relate and are silently praying for us. hoping for better days.

Thanks to all VJ members that made it bearable....

[Bugs 455]

Oh yeah, definitely do the infopass option, JB, and I'm actually surprised you haven't already. It's only an hour drive from here. Let us know what happens okay? I'll hope for the best.

[LaDonnaD 0]

I'm oct. 10th and I haven't heard nothing yet.

I'm oct. 10th and I haven't heard nothing yet.

[rjm_cmyk 75]

The real problem is here is one of transparency. There are two areas where we are completely in the dark here (and I speak as an early Jan filer who is seeing Feb approvals)

1) We don't really have any idea how petitions are processed in it's most basic sense. It's certainly not strict order based on FIFO. We are assuming that workers get (or are allocated) boxes of petitions and work through them. We also assume that the box contains only one type of petition or perhaps a batch based on FIFO. That's a big ask for what appears to be a chaotic system (if I can call it that). When you factor in petitions being shipped around - well it's hardly surprising FIFO order gets chopped and broken.

2) We don't know how accurate the timelines on VJ are and how the numbers and distribution of petition types relate to the total cohort of visa applications. VJers and VJers who keep their timelines filled in are only a small proportion of the overall cohort and we don't even know if they are representative of the wider group. We think they are, they might well be but it's a guess.

I am not saying this to excuse USCIS - the system appears chaotic and arbitrary. A bit of a cheek for a government service which you have to pay for !

[Bugs 455]

Well, seeing that only a couple have responded here, and not seeing much in terms of complaints, I guess it is true that most of the unapproved on Igor's just haven't updated their timelines. So I consider this case closed and am happy to see that Februarly is indeed the accurate date for current approvals moving forward. Gives me hope as an April filer that I will see my approval come this summer.

[LAMike 1]

I'm a March filer, but had the same thought as you. I checked the last login dates for a sampling of the oldest outstanding applications and quite a few had last login dates from several months ago. I also noticed quite a few timelines that don't have profiles associated with them. I was curious if these could be purged since they will likely never be updated. It would be nice psychological boost to suddenly jump up about 60 slots in line

[Bugs 455]

I'm a March filer, but had the same thought as you. I checked the last login dates for a sampling of the oldest outstanding applications and quite a few had last login dates from several months ago. I also noticed quite a few timelines that don't have profiles associated with them. I was curious if these could be purged since they will likely never be updated. It would be nice psychological boost to suddenly jump up about 60 slots in line

Yeah, Igor's should never really be considered an accurate representation of approval stats, but in the past it had been. It's just that for several months, CSC was at a standstill, so perhaps a lot more people signed up on here than usual due to frustration over the long wait, and many of those weren't ever going to become regular visitors.

[zooropa 30]

CSC had Eleven approvals on VJ for 6/3/13....VSC shows Two approvals for 6/3/13. CSC will have most of Feb 2013 completed before VSC completes Nov 2012 at this rate.

They may have moved some VSC files, but it's going on two weeks with not one approval from TSC.

So I would say CSC approving at 3.5 months is nothing to complain about,

[Bugs 455]

CSC had Eleven approvals on VJ for 6/3/13....VSC shows Two approvals for 6/3/13. CSC will have most of Feb 2013 completed before VSC completes Nov 2012 at this rate.

They may have moved some VSC files, but it's going on two weeks with not one approval from TSC.

So I would say CSC approving at 3.5 months is nothing to complain about,

Indeed, I was very pleased to see yesterday's CSC showing. 4 Feb approvals, 3 Jan approvals, and 6 RFE approvals.

Good luck on the situation over at VSC/TSC. I hope it all gets resolved and rolling soon.

Edited June 4, 2013 by Leon & Mylen

[zooropa 30]

Thanks. Good luck to you too.