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Reading this makes me realise just how much I miss the NHS now that I'm state-side. I grew up with the NHS, it became the norm to me; and like many other British citizens, we get very used to it. Which in itself, makes it easy to ignore how great the service is and focus on the bad points.

It is true that, if you need to see a specialist, you can end up on a waiting list for months and months unless you are in a dire situation. However, as you correctly pointed out, during any urgent situation regardless of how much money you do or do not have, you will be looked after by a team of professionals. If you are admitted to hospital, you don't need to pay the prescription charges for any medication either. And yes, the charge is ridiculously low regardless of what medication you are prescribed!

Now, Dental on the NHS is another story...


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I am greatly disappointed in how eager Obama rolled over for those interests and did not even include a public option in his health care bill.

A public option was never going to pass in the Senate. The conservadem Senators made that very clear.

Like it or not, Obama can't sign anything into law until both the Senate and the HoR pass it. He is President, not Emperor.

You hippies need to ease up on the bullsh1t criticism. If it was up to you guys, we'd limit our choices to nirvana and nothing.

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A public option was never going to pass in the Senate. The conservadem Senators made that very clear.

Like it or not, Obama can't sign anything into law until both the Senate and the HoR pass it. He is President, not Emperor.

You hippies need to ease up on the bullsh1t criticism. If it was up to you guys, we'd limit our choices to nirvana and nothing.

It is an indictment of our corrupt campaign finance system that the public option was doomed this way when such a large percentage of voters from both parties supported it. When will enough people stand up and demand real change?

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It is an indictment of our corrupt campaign finance system that the public option was doomed this way when such a large percentage of voters from both parties supported it. When will enough people stand up and demand real change?

The polling firms routinely poll the electorate on which issues they care most about, and which they care less about. While you are correct in your statement that these polls have consistently shown that "large percentages of voters" do support campaign finance reform designed to reduce the corrupting influence of institutional cash, what you leave out (or choose to ignore) is that even larger percentages of voters rate the issue very low on their list of priorities.

And in case the hippies reading this haven't popped a vein yet, here's another issue that consistently rates low on voter priorities - the environment.

Hey hippies - choke on that.

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So basically, if you want a public heathcare option in the polical spotlight, you need the kardashians or honey boo boo to endorce it.

As pathetic as they are, we seem to have the government we deserve!

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So basically, if you want a public heathcare option in the polical spotlight, you need the kardashians or honey boo boo to endorce it.

That sounds funny and the kind of glib ####### the "Oh, Americans are so stupid!" hippies eat up, but tell me this.

When was the last time Kim Kardashian spoke about jobs or the war on terror?

Both issues the American electorate, going by the polls, care deeply about.

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That sounds funny and the kind of glib ####### the "Oh, Americans are so stupid!" hippies eat up, but tell me this.

When was the last time Kim Kardashian spoke about jobs or the war on terror?

Both issues the American electorate, going by the polls, care deeply about.

It's not that they're dumb, they just don't care. No one gives a ####### about healthcare until they need it. They might think about others that need healthcare, but people are rarely motivated until they or someone they care about need it. I pay $14 a week for my wife and I to have healthcare. Why would I ever opt for taxes that stand to increase the amount I pay for healthcare?

Now Islamists flying planes into buildings? Tax away. It's amazing how scared americans are of the rest of the world. Has to be a correlation to how many Americans travel outside of the country for pleasure.

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It's not that they're dumb, they just don't care. No one gives a ####### about healthcare until they need it. They might think about others that need healthcare, but people are rarely motivated until they or someone they care about need it. I pay $14 a week for my wife and I to have healthcare. Why would I ever opt for taxes that stand to increase the amount I pay for healthcare?

Now Islamists flying planes into buildings? Tax away. It's amazing how scared americans are of the rest of the world. Has to be a correlation to how many Americans travel outside of the country for pleasure.

Looking down on people for not having the means to fly their families to Europe or Yemen and spend a week at a nice resort is the height of snobbery.

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The NHS is not a perfect system, but it definitely has benefits that we are seriously lacking here in the US. When I was in England on a student visa, I was eligible for the NHS and didn't have to give it a second thought if I got ill - a peace of mind I wish I had in the US. When I got seriously ill in the US (one of the first cases of swine flu here apparently), I put off going to the doctor/hospital because I couldn't afford it and I got worse and worse until I was forcibly taken to the hospital and then had to pay extortionate fees.

That said, the last time I spent 6 months in the UK I managed to get a severe bladder infection. My fiance took me to the nearest NHS hospital in a taxi as I couldn't walk and I was turned away. They would not see me despite being in obvious pain because I was not on the NHS. I had to walk a block to a private hospital to be seen. Still, I got seen by a doctor, given a prescription and pain killers for less than $100 so the shock of it being so affordable eased the blow of being turned away.

I would wholeheartedly endorse a VAT based tax system here - as I believe it's the fairest way to tax people as it acts as a usage fee. But that wouldn't fly with anyone here probably.

My fiance and I plan on living in London again eventually, for healthcare and many other reasons.


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Looking down on people for not having the means to fly their families to Europe or Yemen and spend a week at a nice resort is the height of snobbery.

I'm not looking down on them. I just booked my first trip out of North America and I wouldn't be doing it if it wasn't so important to my wife. As you said it's hard for americans to travel like Europeans can since the tickets are so expensive. It doesn't change the fact that never leaving the states can cause a narrow, perhaps fearful view of the world.

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