Drones, and the victims they cause

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Man, I don't login to VJ for an hour or two, come back and it's crazy land.

What was it when you left it?

[Karee 4,191]

What was it when you left it?

Good point.

[GandD 5,966]

Man, I don't login to VJ for an hour or two, come back and it's crazy land.

We got in twouble.

[Teddy B 17,252]

What was it when you left it?

[duraaraa 203]

Back onto the topic, I guess.

I think it's strange that there are people who are adamantly against any kind of abortion. After all, abortion kills an innocent child, doesn't it? But the same people often seem to have no worries when innocent children are killed by the United States in foreign countries.

I'm personally against both. I have no issues with a woman's right to choose, but I wouldn't pay for an abortion. In the same way, I wouldn't pay for any kind of war/military action. The problem is, I'm forced to pay for it because of where I was born. There are cases where I still have to pay for it, even if I leave the country, and unless I can get a second nationality, I couldn't even get rid of the citizenship which requires me to pay for it. That kind of ticks me off.

Edited April 26, 2013 by duraaraa

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Back onto the topic, I guess.

I think it's strange that there are people who are adamantly against any kind of abortion. After all, abortion kills an innocent child, doesn't it? But the same people often seem to have no worries when innocent children are killed by the United States in foreign countries.

Or some, women included, who post here who fight for a woman's right to choose to kill her unborn child yet condemn innocent children being killed elsewhere.

[duraaraa 203]

Or some, women included, who post here who fight for a woman's right to choose to kill her unborn child yet condemn innocent children being killed elsewhere.

Very true, but those who are for abortion tend to not consider the baby as an independent living being until it is born.

Do people not think that all human lives are equal? Personally, I think that all life is equal.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Or some, women included, who post here who fight for a woman's right to choose to kill her unborn child yet condemn innocent children being killed elsewhere.

I do not consider a fetus in its early stages to be the same as a child who is already living outside the womb.

Very true, but those who are for abortion tend to not consider the baby as an independent living being until it is born.

Do people not think that all human lives are equal? Personally, I think that all life is equal.

When it comes to abortion, people tend to forget the life and rights of the woman actually carrying the fetus.

A fetus is not an independent living being.

Edited April 26, 2013 by Evylin

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Very true, but those who are for abortion tend to not consider the baby as an independent living being until it is born.

Do people not think that all human lives are equal? Personally, I think that all life is equal.

I think all life is equal. As far as the pro abortion crowd, that view suites there viewpoint. Personally I find it quite hypocritical. Innocent person gets killed in war, etc,= wrong, killing the life within in their body = my choice.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

I think all life is equal. As far as the pro abortion crowd, that view suites there viewpoint. Personally I find it quite hypocritical. Innocent person gets killed in war, etc,= wrong, killing the life within in their body = my choice.

Sigh.

Pro-choice is not pro-abortion.

If a woman does not want to carry a child for 9 months, the government should not force her to. In an ideal world, abortions would not be necessary. But they are. And while they are, they need to be able to be obtained safely.

[Karee 4,191]

Sigh.

Pro-choice is not pro-abortion.

If a woman does not want to carry a child for 9 months, the government should not force her to. In an ideal world, abortions would not be necessary. But they are. And while they are, they need to be able to be obtained safely.

+1000

[duraaraa 203]

Sigh.

Pro-choice is not pro-abortion.

If a woman does not want to carry a child for 9 months, the government should not force her to. In an ideal world, abortions would not be necessary. But they are. And while they are, they need to be able to be obtained safely.

Agreed. I am pro choice, but not pro abortion.

My point is, for those who DO think that a fetus IS an independent living being, worthy of being protected, it's shocking how many just don't give a ####### when kids in Pakistan are killed by the U.S. military.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Sigh.

Pro-choice is not pro-abortion.

If a woman does not want to carry a child for 9 months, the government should not force her to. In an ideal world, abortions would not be necessary. But they are. And while they are, they need to be able to be obtained safely.

I'm not talking about the government forcing someone. I'm talking about it on a most basic level. There are many who use abortion as a form of birth control, and that's ok, but condemn innocents getting killed from military action. I find it quite hypocritical.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Agreed. I am pro choice, but not pro abortion.

My point is, for those who DO think that a fetus IS an independent living being, worthy of being protected, it's shocking how many just don't give a ####### when kids in Pakistan are killed by the U.S. military.

How can a fetus be an independent living being when it depends on the body it lives in to survive?

I don't like that kids in Pakistan are killed by U.S. military. But what can I do about it?

I'm not talking about the government forcing someone. I'm talking about it on a most basic level. There are many who use abortion as a form of birth control, and that's ok, but condemn innocents getting killed from military action. I find it quite hypocritical.

There are people who will abuse every system. It doesn't mean that the people who truly do end up needing it should be prohibited from using it. I personally don't know any women who have multiple abortions as a form of birth control.

I'm not sure where your statement of "many" comes from. Are there statistics that state this happens on a large enough basis that there is a problem?

Edited April 26, 2013 by Evylin

[spookyturtle 9,466]

How can a fetus be an independent living being when it depends on the body it lives in to survive?

I don't like that kids in Pakistan are killed by U.S. military. But what can I do about it?

Do you believe that the fetus is alive?