Saddam gets death sentence

[Saddle Bronc 124]

also, somewhere i've read that saddam first killed someone when he was about 14.

Well there ya go -- that's not the same as being indirectly responsible for people's deaths

(which both Saddam and Bush are, as well as Blair and probably any other head of state.)

Actually Mark, Saddam WAS responsible for ordering mass-murders (gassing of Halabja one example) as were Yahya Khan ("Operation Searchlight"), Zia ul-Haq (claimed by G.M. Jatoi to have ordered "worse atrocities--than Operation Searchlight--in Sindh"), Hafiz Assad, Bashir Assad, etc.

Unfortunately, that alone would take away any "indirectness" of responsibility.

[mawilson 2,133]

Actually Mark, Saddam WAS responsible for ordering mass-murders (gassing of Halabja one example) as were Yahya Khan ("Operation Searchlight"), Zia ul-Haq (claimed by G.M. Jatoi to have ordered "worse atrocities--than Operation Searchlight--in Sindh"), Hafiz Assad, Bashir Assad, etc.

Unfortunately, that alone would take away any "indirectness" of responsibility.

I never doubted for a second that he was an evil mofo. And you're right about his being a threat to whomever's in charge.

[Fandango 1,440]

As for President George W. Bush facing execution, I wouldn't hold your breath. He's never murdered anyone.

Not directly (although he executed enough people as governor of Texas) but he is definitely

responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of Iraqis.

Actually, that would be congress, who granted him that permission

[mawilson 2,133]

Actually, that would be congress, who granted him that permission

His administration seems to have a way of ramming anything they want through Congress.

[Cristy 4]

Let me just get this clear. The difference between Sadam and Bush is that Sadam ordered his own people be killed and Bush ordered that other countries people be killed. So one is ok but the other is evil?

[Ban Hammer 14,291]

Let me just get this clear. The difference between Sadam and Bush is that Sadam ordered his own people be killed and Bush ordered that other countries people be killed. So one is ok but the other is evil?

you can start by trying to understand the difference in the checks and balances between the usa and saddam's iraq

[Saddle Bronc 124]

Let me just get this clear. The difference between Sadam and Bush is that Sadam ordered his own people be killed and Bush ordered that other countries people be killed. So one is ok but the other is evil?

Not exactly.

Saddam ordered massacres of his own citizens as well as those of (temporarily) captured Iranian territory. Bush's case is "collateral" (as Germans killed during British/American bombing raids against Germany in WW2).

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Actually, that would be congress, who granted him that permission

His administration seems to have a way of ramming anything they want through Congress.

I'd noticed that.

[Jenn! 918]

Lord help us if kerry "boring - negative' healey becomes the new govener of MA tomorrow

Don't worry, it won't happen.

[AnaAndDaniel 0]

i say hang him by the 'nads!

Daniel

:energetic:

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

As for President George W. Bush facing execution, I wouldn't hold your breath. He's never murdered anyone.

Not directly (although he executed enough people as governor of Texas) but he is definitely

responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of Iraqis.

Actually, that would be congress, who granted him that permission

Actually, no. Congress did not order a single soldier into Iraq. Not one.

[Saddle Bronc 124]

Lord help us if kerry "boring - negative' healey becomes the new govener of MA tomorrow

Don't worry, it won't happen.

All you're saying is that YOU won't vote for Healey.

Unfortunately, ALL of MA has been boring and negative since they elected murderer-Teddy to senate.

[I'm Gone 60]

Actually, that would be congress, who granted him that permission

His administration seems to have a way of ramming anything they want through Congress.

I'd noticed that.

So far his illegal immigrant amnesty hasn't had it through and as I said before other than Iraq the two of the biggest things passed (Medicare Part D and No Child Left Behind) were things the Democrats also wanted.

[Saddle Bronc 124]

Actually, that would be congress, who granted him that permission

His administration seems to have a way of ramming anything they want through Congress.

I'd noticed that.

So far his illegal immigrant amnesty hasn't had it through and as I said before other than Iraq the two of the biggest things passed (Medicare Part D and No Child Left Behind) were things the Democrats also wanted.

Also noticeable that many of the Dems (including chop#### ketchup kerry) initially supported the invasion of Iraq--so one could easily say that Iraq was also something Dems wanted.

[Ban Hammer 14,291]

Iran calls for execution of Saddam

TEHRAN, Iran - Iran called on Iraq on Tuesday to carry out its death sentence on Saddam Hussein, saying the former dictator who waged an eight-year war against Iran in the 1980s was a criminal who deserved to die.

"We hope the fair, correct and legal verdict against this criminal ... is enforced," government spokesman Gholam Hossein Elham told a news conference.

On Sunday, an Iraqi court in Baghdad sentenced Saddam and two other senior members of his regime to death by hanging for crimes against humanity for the killing of 148 people in the northern town of Dujail. The victims were detained and tortured after a 1982 attempt to assassinate Saddam as he visited the town.

An Iraqi appeal court is expected to rule on the guilty verdict and death sentence by the middle of January.

"He is a criminal dictator. No doubt about it," Elham said of Saddam. "We hope no pressure will be applied not to carry out this verdict."

In Vienna on Tuesday, the United Nations' special investigator on torture, Manfred Nowak, said he disagreed with the death sentence and that Saddam's trial had not been well conducted.

"Even a person like Saddam Hussein should not be sentenced to death," said Nowak, who acknowledged that Saddam's regime had killed and tortured many political opponents and members of minorities.

The EU has welcomed the verdict but also said Saddam should not be put to death.

The Iranian spokesman said his government hoped Saddam would continue to be tried for other alleged crimes against humanity, including his invading Iran in 1980, starting a war that killed more than a million Iranians and Iraqis.

The suffering and losses in the war, which ended in 1988, are well remembered in Iran.

Elham rejected the suggestion that the execution of Saddam, a Sunni Muslim, would escalate the violence between Iraq's Shiite and Sunni communities.

"It is very clear that such a suggestion is mischief-making. Saddam has both Shiite and Sunni blood on his hands. His very existence is anti-human," he said.

Just after Saddam was sentenced on Sunday, Iranian state television interrupted its programs to announce: "A court in Iraq sentenced Saddam, the fallen dictator, to death."

If the appeal court upholds the death sentence, The Associated Press has learned that Iraq's three-man presidential council will sign papers for Saddam's execution. The hanging must be carried out within 30 days of the appeal court's decision.

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