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Folks,

I lost my naturalization certificate while applying for US passport. I have the passport with me but not even a copy of naturalization certificate. My wife's interview call is on 7th Nov in Mumbai so wanted to check whether they ask for Naturalization certificate during interview or not? I have sent her a copy of my US passport.

Please let me know.

Thanks in advance. Cheers.

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Folks,

I lost my naturalization certificate while applying for US passport. I have the passport with me but not even a copy of naturalization certificate. My wife's interview call is on 7th Nov in Mumbai so wanted to check whether they ask for Naturalization certificate during interview or not? I have sent her a copy of my US passport.

Please let me know.

Thanks in advance. Cheers.

you can request for you copy of naturalazaiton certificate no worries about that. i don't think thye are going to ask about your naturalazation certificate as passport is the proof of citizenship..cheers

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you can request for you copy of naturalazaiton certificate no worries about that. i don't think thye are going to ask about your naturalazation certificate as passport is the proof of citizenship..cheers

Thanks Mr paudel. Yes I saw I can apply for it but unless I need it for my wife's visa I don't want to apply for it. Is it useful for anything else?

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Thanks Mr paudel. Yes I saw I can apply for it but unless I need it for my wife's visa I don't want to apply for it. Is it useful for anything else?

you are already approved from NVC as a us citizen ..they won't ask anything else besides civil documents of your wife..naturalization certificate is not needed on the time of interview....

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The Certificate of Naturalization has 3 purposes: 1 primary one and 2 secondary ones.

1) Primary purpose:

To get the first U.S. passport. Once a US passport has been issued, this passport serves as proof of US citizenship henceforth. Smart people order a passport book and a passport card so that two independent proofs of US citizenship exists. Even smarter people put the passport book and the passport card in different places, so if the house burns down and with it the passport book, the passport card is still in the safe at work or at the grandparent's or wherever it's safe. Once the passport has been received and the Certificate of Naturalization has been returned, it goes into the bank safe for purpose 2.

2) Secondary purpose:

If a Tsunami, horrendous wildfire or earthquake has leveled your house, your place of work, your grandparents' house and basically every single document you ever had is lost forever, you go to the bank once it reopens and get your Certificate of Naturalization out. With it you apply for a new passport book and card, a new driver's license and all the other documents God took from you.

3) The Certificate of Naturalization makes a nice wall decoration.

Strictly speaking, even when scenario 2 took place, you'd really need the Certificate of Naturalization, and you'd never, ever, under any circumstances, had to spend $345 for a certified copy (there is no real replacement for the original) which takes -- hold your horses -- 12 to 21 months (!) to process anyway, during which time you'd have lots of fun trying to proof that you are not an illegal alien. That's because once the US Department of State has issue a passport, they have a record of it. So you theoretically could throw away your Certificate of Naturalization after you got your first passport, or just lose it, as you did.


There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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The Certificate of Naturalization has 3 purposes: 1 primary one and 2 secondary ones.

1) Primary purpose:

To get the first U.S. passport. Once a US passport has been issued, this passport serves as proof of US citizenship henceforth. Smart people order a passport book and a passport card so that two independent proofs of US citizenship exists. Even smarter people put the passport book and the passport card in different places, so if the house burns down and with it the passport book, the passport card is still in the safe at work or at the grandparent's or wherever it's safe. Once the passport has been received and the Certificate of Naturalization has been returned, it goes into the bank safe for purpose 2.

2) Secondary purpose:

If a Tsunami, horrendous wildfire or earthquake has leveled your house, your place of work, your grandparents' house and basically every single document you ever had is lost forever, you go to the bank once it reopens and get your Certificate of Naturalization out. With it you apply for a new passport book and card, a new driver's license and all the other documents God took from you.

3) The Certificate of Naturalization makes a nice wall decoration.

Strictly speaking, even when scenario 2 took place, you'd really need the Certificate of Naturalization, and you'd never, ever, under any circumstances, had to spend $345 for a certified copy (there is no real replacement for the original) which takes -- hold your horses -- 12 to 21 months (!) to process anyway, during which time you'd have lots of fun trying to proof that you are not an illegal alien. That's because once the US Department of State has issue a passport, they have a record of it. So you theoretically could throw away your Certificate of Naturalization after you got your first passport, or just lose it, as you did.

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