Same-sex couple fights to stop deportation, gay marriage ban

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I do not support same sex couples just wrong in many ways i hope to god same sex couple are not allowed to marry abroad. Be a cold day in hell if it passed.

I am not sure how, who another persons chooses to love or what they do in the bedroom is any of our business. A lot of you should stop and think that , to many many Americans those of us who married a person from another country, did something they do not approve of. Everyone should have equal protection under the law. If I can meet a person from overseas and marry them, who happens to be female, why is it ethical for me to impose my beliefs or sexual mores on someone else.

Is GOD confused himself i thought GOD made Adam and eve not Adam on Adam or eve on eve. I believe in traditional marriage only.

If God did not make Homosexuals as you argue, then who did ? I thought God created all life. Now you are telling me he did not create Homosexuals. Now I am confused ?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

You skillfully avoided actually responding to anything I said about the sanctity of marriage.

Interestingly enough we are not a theocracy. Nor should we be. Laws should not be based on religion in our country. There's nothing wrong with believing in traditional marriage at all. There is, however, a problem when religious beliefs inform the laws of our country.

God does not make the laws of countries.

And before you think I'm a heathen, I am Christian. But I do not believe my marriage is threatened by another couple's marriage, regardless of their sexual orientation, race, religion, or nationality.

I was in a Adult Singles Sunday School class one day and the teacher said Homosexuality was a threat to marriage in this country. I asked all divorced people in the room to stand up.(90%). Then I asked all people that had a homosexual break up their marriage to remain standing. All sat down. The highest divorce rates in the country are among people who identify themselves as Christians. Logic would dictate that Christianity is more of a threat to marriage than homosexuality.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

There is no "right" to immigrate here.

According to immigration authorities, she's being deported because she entered the country illegally:

Authorities approved her employer’s application for permanent resident status for her in May 2006, and she had temporary lawful status until April 2011, when immigration officials told her she was inadmissible to the country. They said she had misrepresented her name and marital status because she had entered the U.S. under the last name of her former spouse, even though they were not legally married, according to the lawsuit.

A lot of hetero couples (including here on VJ) have faced similar deportation rulings based on a foreign spouse's illegal entry to the U.S., and had their requests for a hardship waiver rejected as well - they're very difficult to get. Which federal law should be overturned for all of them ?

(Source link was missing for the OP article but this may be it:)

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/13/12726303-same-sex-couple-fights-to-stop-deportation-gay-marriage-ban?lite

[MyLittlePony 340]

I am not sure how, who another persons chooses to love or what they do in the bedroom is any of our business. A lot of you should stop and think that , to many many Americans those of us who married a person from another country, did something they do not approve of. Everyone should have equal protection under the law. If I can meet a person from overseas and marry them, who happens to be female, why is it ethical for me to impose my beliefs or sexual mores on someone else.

If God did not make Homosexuals as you argue, then who did ? I thought God created all life. Now you are telling me he did not create Homosexuals. Now I am confused ?

I think this is how the world population will end or be reduced from too much homosexuality.

[X Factor 1,113]

I think this is how the world population will end or be reduced from too much homosexuality.

Are you perhaps thinking about what happened at Sodom and Gomorrah

Edited July 15, 2012 by kennard

[JohnR! 5,495]

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Please lord let me die first before they wreck DOMA with this #######.

I find it humorous when you libs advocate and defend the Federal Government trampling all over the X Amendment.

[JohnR! 5,495]

1342344698[/url]' post='5526675']

I am not sure how, who another persons chooses to love or what they do in the bedroom is any of our business. A lot of you should stop and think that , to many many Americans those of us who married a person from another country, did something they do not approve of. Everyone should have equal protection under the law. If I can meet a person from overseas and marry them, who happens to be female, why is it ethical for me to impose my beliefs or sexual mores on someone else.

If God did not make Homosexuals as you argue, then who did ? I thought God created all life. Now you are telling me he did not create Homosexuals. Now I am confused ?

There are two things at stake here. Her deportation is being based on her misrepresentation upon entering the US. As such she should have to answer for her actions.

On the other subject, I agree that under the laws of the State of California she is legally married in this country and should be able to use that recourse to her situation. She should be afforded the same immigration rights as any other spouse of a US citizen.

In the end you are the sole responsible for your marriage and nothing I or anyone else can ever do can change that.

I find it ludicrous that many who claim to defend the sanctity of marriage are divorced and remarried! I will believe all the bs about the sanctity of marriage when the effort to maintain DOMA is matched my a similar initiative to ban divorce in the US. Until then they are simple and unfounded arguments brought forth by hypocrites.

[JohnR! 5,495]

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Is GOD confused himself i thought GOD made Adam and eve not Adam on Adam or eve on eve. I believe in traditional marriage only.

In the realm if immigration it would be fair to say that god made Adam and Eve not Adam and Consuela and make an entire case for traditional marriage in the sense that we should ban inter-racial marriages. Of course, I only say that to make a point, and not with the intention of being offensive to many VJs who like yourself have entered in such a marriage.

However, in the realm of Adam and Eve, which is purely religious, churches are afforded the right to marry whoever they want, as protected by the First Amendment. There are other churches that perform and bless same-sex marriages, under the protections of the same constitutional amendment. That will not change.

In the legal realm, which is purely secular, who you or I marry has no bearing on the belief of others. In essence if same-sex marriage is made legal, you need not partake of it and neither do I.

[KarenCee 3]

Is this how world population end?

What is your basis for assuming that same-sex marriages means the world population will come to an end? Have you never heard of surrogacy? How would a same-sex marriage affect you personally or anyone else in your family and why would this even be a concern for you personally?

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Why not allow people who want to immigrate that love their animals ? I mean there's people out there who have intimate relations with sheep, dogs, etc... so why not allow the two of them to immigrate as a couple?

[Xanax 349]

Why not allow people who want to immigrate that love their animals ? I mean there's people out there who have intimate relations with sheep, dogs, etc... so why not allow the two of them to immigrate as a couple?

An animal cannot exactly provide the emotional or financial support of that of a human.

I find it a little confusing that you put homosexuals and animals in the same immigration basket.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

An animal cannot exactly provide the emotional or financial support of that of a human.

I find it a little confusing that you put homosexuals and animals in the same immigration basket.

Because some of us didn't fall of yesterday's box car meaning we don't buy into the spiel about two people of the same sex playing pseudo man and wife roles means anything close to normal relationship.

Now you may think it's normal but a lot of us don't, in fact a lot of us find it sickening, revolting, and anything but normal.

[aaydrian 479]

Why not allow people who want to immigrate that love their animals ? I mean there's people out there who have intimate relations with sheep, dogs, etc... so why not allow the two of them to immigrate as a couple?

I think someone has already been successful in this.

[JohnR! 5,495]

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Why not allow people who want to immigrate that love their animals ? I mean there's people out there who have intimate relations with sheep, dogs, etc... so why not allow the two of them to immigrate as a couple?

You can already do that. Many pet owners get their dogs from breeders in other countries. What you propose is the equivalent of allowing immigration with no basis on family ties. It is no different than filing for immigration papers for anyone who lives in a foreign country, similarly to a 'boyfriend' or 'girlfriend' visa.

As your comment evidences, same-sex marriage doesn't really change anything which is already in place.

Edited July 15, 2012 by Gegel

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I think this is how the world population will end or be reduced from too much homosexuality.

Guarantee you that the Heterosexual genetic trait is far too prevalent for that to ever happen.