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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: England
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Just preparing to apply for my husband's citizenship and have run into a few questions..

1. Should we put N/A or None in all blank fields even if it says only answer if the answer to a certain question is yes?

2. My husband had a traffic ticket last year, no points, just a fine, so do we have to answer yes to getting cited? Will this be an issue? We paid the fine and that was it. I probably still have the ticket, should I include this?

3. He's applying based on 3 year residency, should he include the days outside of the US before he moved here on part 7?

4. Also on part 7, he's spent 35 days outside of the US since becoming a LPR, will this affect the timing in which he can apply for citizenship?

5. He's a UK citizen, will he be able to become a dual citizen? or is there something we have to do in order for him to keep his UK citizenship?

Thanks in advanced.

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Rugby, England >> Harrisburg, PA.

Summer 2005 -- Met on Pokerstars.com

June 15th, 2006 -- Met in Person

Feb 1st, 2008 -- Filed I-129F

May 2nd, 2008 -- Visa Interview = Approved. (91days)

May 27th, 2008 -- Damian moves to America!

July 23rd - 30th, 2008 -- Damian's Mum Comes to the US for our wedding.

July 25th, 2008 -- Wedding Day!

March 16th, 2009 -- AOS Sent

May 8th, 2009 -- EAD & AP Approved (51days)

July 14th, 2009 -- AOS Approved!! (118days)

July 21st, 2009 -- Green Card Received (125days)

No RFEs the whole process :) All done myself.

December 4th - 30th, 2009 -- Visited England

April 8th - 30th, 2010 -- Damian's Brother visits us here in PA.

January 19th, 2010 -- Damian got his PA license.

December 10th - 19th, 2010 -- Visited England

September 16th - 30th, 2011 -- Damian's Parents came to visit us here in PA.

June 1st, 2011 -- Mailed ROC to Vermont.

February 21st, 2012 -- 10 Year Green Card Received

April 14th, 2012 -- N-400 Sent to Dallas Lockbox

November 26th, 2012 – Damian Became a US Citizen!!!

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Hi Kelly!

Just preparing to apply for my husband's citizenship and have run into a few questions..

1. Should we put N/A or None in all blank fields even if it says only answer if the answer to a certain question is yes?

You mean like Part 1, D, 2. If yes, print the new name......

I left those blank.

2. My husband had a traffic ticket last year, no points, just a fine, so do we have to answer yes to getting cited? Will this be an issue? We paid the fine and that was it. I probably still have the ticket, should I include this?

Lots of debate on this. I had the same question and researched VJ and other sites. I found some interviewing officers are insistent a ticket counts and want proof the fine was paid. Others have brushed it aside saying little about it. At the interview they go over the application line by line and he can show the ticket at that time if they need to see it. It won't get him denied but an interviewer could want proof that the fine was paid. If you can get a receipt from the court/office where it was paid, then you'll cover the worst case scenario.

3. He's applying based on 3 year residency, should he include the days outside of the US before he moved here on part 7?

Marriage based apply after 3 years, so ignore or cross out five years and put three years. Answer based on his 3 years here. It's one of those multi-function forms but he doesn't list time before he became a PR.

4. Also on part 7, he's spent 35 days outside of the US since becoming a LPR, will this affect the timing in which he can apply for citizenship?

No

5. He's a UK citizen, will he be able to become a dual citizen? or is there something we have to do in order for him to keep his UK citizenship?

The UK will not mark him off their rolls if he becomes an American. It's quite the opposite in that if he wants to drop his British citizenship, there's a form and probably a fee. He can keep renewing his British passport to use abroad if he wants to.

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England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

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Thank you for the quick reply. Funny thing with the speeding ticket, we paid it in person, so I still have the ticket and the receipt of payment. So that crosses that worry off. Just wanted to double check, because my husband just keeps questioning me, I may act like his secretary at times but I don't always have all the answers.

Thanks again!

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Rugby, England >> Harrisburg, PA.

Summer 2005 -- Met on Pokerstars.com

June 15th, 2006 -- Met in Person

Feb 1st, 2008 -- Filed I-129F

May 2nd, 2008 -- Visa Interview = Approved. (91days)

May 27th, 2008 -- Damian moves to America!

July 23rd - 30th, 2008 -- Damian's Mum Comes to the US for our wedding.

July 25th, 2008 -- Wedding Day!

March 16th, 2009 -- AOS Sent

May 8th, 2009 -- EAD & AP Approved (51days)

July 14th, 2009 -- AOS Approved!! (118days)

July 21st, 2009 -- Green Card Received (125days)

No RFEs the whole process :) All done myself.

December 4th - 30th, 2009 -- Visited England

April 8th - 30th, 2010 -- Damian's Brother visits us here in PA.

January 19th, 2010 -- Damian got his PA license.

December 10th - 19th, 2010 -- Visited England

September 16th - 30th, 2011 -- Damian's Parents came to visit us here in PA.

June 1st, 2011 -- Mailed ROC to Vermont.

February 21st, 2012 -- 10 Year Green Card Received

April 14th, 2012 -- N-400 Sent to Dallas Lockbox

November 26th, 2012 – Damian Became a US Citizen!!!

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Thank you for the quick reply. Funny thing with the speeding ticket, we paid it in person, so I still have the ticket and the receipt of payment. So that crosses that worry off. Just wanted to double check, because my husband just keeps questioning me, I may act like his secretary at times but I don't always have all the answers.

Thanks again!

Don't worry about the ticket. The instructions are clear about it. You do not need to submit or bring evidence for traffic violations less than 500 dollars. DUI is one exception but it doesn't sound like any of that is going on.

I don't agree with crossing out things if it comes to trip-question. 1st question asks how many days you spent outside US in the last 5 years, the 2nd question asks you to specify the trips you took since you became a permanent resident. I was in the same situation as you so answered first question with 600 days (as I entered US in Jul 2008) and specified the trips I took since dec 2008, the month I became a GC-holder (app. 60 days).

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N-400 application timeline

02-22-2012-- (00): documents sent

02-23-2012-- (01): NOA date

02-27-2012-- (05): check cashed

03-02-2012-- (09): bio appointment notice sent, bio date 03-15 (23)

03-05-2012-- (12): bio notice received

03-06-2012-- (13): early bio

03-12-2012-- (19): in line for interview scheduling

03-21-2012-- (28): scheduled for interview

03-28-2012-- (35): interview notice received

05-02-2012-- (70): interview. Rec. for Approval!

05-16-2012-- (84): in line for oath scheduling

06-19-2012-(118): scheduled for oath

06-21-2012-(120): oath letter received

07-06-2012-(135): oath

Passport application timeline

07-10-2012-- (00): application sent (card+book/routine service)

07-17-2012-- (07): application status online

07-26-2012-- (16): application on hold (name too long)

07-28-2012-- (18): RFI Tucson passport center (proposed shortened name) letter received

07-30-2012-- (20): reply sent to Tucson passport center

08-18-2012-- (39): passport book received

08-21-2012-- (42): passport card received

08-21-2012-- (42): CON received

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The reason I would have the ticket and receipt of payment handy at the interview is I've found three or more reviews/discussions of interviews where the interviewer actually required proof of payment on a traffic ticket or parking ticket. Right or wrong, he wasn't signing off until that documentation was in his hands. So since you have it, put it in the interview folder even though a sensible interviewer won't ask for it.

I did not list time outside the US except for the last 3 years. I still believe the point of the question is based on if your filing eligibility. The Guide to Naturalization says:

"Physical Presence concerns the total number of days you were in the United States
during the period required for your naturalization
."

In our case the required period is three years. We'll know in 3 weeks if that is okay.

1 trip, 14 days.

England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

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Filed: Country: Netherlands
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The reason I would have the ticket and receipt of payment handy at the interview is I've found three or more reviews/discussions of interviews where the interviewer actually required proof of payment on a traffic ticket or parking ticket. Right or wrong, he wasn't signing off until that documentation was in his hands. So since you have it, put it in the interview folder even though a sensible interviewer won't ask for it.

I did not list time outside the US except for the last 3 years. I still believe the point of the question is based on if your filing eligibility. The Guide to Naturalization says:

"Physical Presence concerns the total number of days you were in the United States
during the period required for your naturalization
."

In our case the required period is three years. We'll know in 3 weeks if that is okay.

1 trip, 14 days.

Yep, but N-400 doesn't ask about physical presence. N-400 asks:

A. How many days did you spend outside of the United States during the past five years? xx Days

B. How many trips of 24 hours or more have you taken outside the United States during the past five years? xx Trips

C. List below all the trips of 24 hours or more that you have taken outside the United States since becoming a lawfull permanent resident.

These questions are very straight forward. USCIS will of course use the physical presence rule to determine you're eligble based upon what you fill out here but as I said first question can be answered with 600 days as OP is filing on 3-year rule. It makes sense OP was not present the first 1 to 2 years out of the last 5.

N-400 application timeline

02-22-2012-- (00): documents sent

02-23-2012-- (01): NOA date

02-27-2012-- (05): check cashed

03-02-2012-- (09): bio appointment notice sent, bio date 03-15 (23)

03-05-2012-- (12): bio notice received

03-06-2012-- (13): early bio

03-12-2012-- (19): in line for interview scheduling

03-21-2012-- (28): scheduled for interview

03-28-2012-- (35): interview notice received

05-02-2012-- (70): interview. Rec. for Approval!

05-16-2012-- (84): in line for oath scheduling

06-19-2012-(118): scheduled for oath

06-21-2012-(120): oath letter received

07-06-2012-(135): oath

Passport application timeline

07-10-2012-- (00): application sent (card+book/routine service)

07-17-2012-- (07): application status online

07-26-2012-- (16): application on hold (name too long)

07-28-2012-- (18): RFI Tucson passport center (proposed shortened name) letter received

07-30-2012-- (20): reply sent to Tucson passport center

08-18-2012-- (39): passport book received

08-21-2012-- (42): passport card received

08-21-2012-- (42): CON received

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: England
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so in my case, number of days outside the US wouldn't be that many as he moved over a year before becoming a LPR. and he spent most of the year before here in the US on the VWP. This is all questioned at interview? if so I don't see either way being wrong as it can be checked and its not trying to hide anything? the wording is so confusing. so i should only list the 2 trips since becoming an LPR, and list the days from 5 years. what about the number of trips, he's come and gone a few times on VWP in the prior year? how about the address question is this also 5 years?

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Rugby, England >> Harrisburg, PA.

Summer 2005 -- Met on Pokerstars.com

June 15th, 2006 -- Met in Person

Feb 1st, 2008 -- Filed I-129F

May 2nd, 2008 -- Visa Interview = Approved. (91days)

May 27th, 2008 -- Damian moves to America!

July 23rd - 30th, 2008 -- Damian's Mum Comes to the US for our wedding.

July 25th, 2008 -- Wedding Day!

March 16th, 2009 -- AOS Sent

May 8th, 2009 -- EAD & AP Approved (51days)

July 14th, 2009 -- AOS Approved!! (118days)

July 21st, 2009 -- Green Card Received (125days)

No RFEs the whole process :) All done myself.

December 4th - 30th, 2009 -- Visited England

April 8th - 30th, 2010 -- Damian's Brother visits us here in PA.

January 19th, 2010 -- Damian got his PA license.

December 10th - 19th, 2010 -- Visited England

September 16th - 30th, 2011 -- Damian's Parents came to visit us here in PA.

June 1st, 2011 -- Mailed ROC to Vermont.

February 21st, 2012 -- 10 Year Green Card Received

April 14th, 2012 -- N-400 Sent to Dallas Lockbox

November 26th, 2012 – Damian Became a US Citizen!!!

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so in my case, number of days outside the US wouldn't be that many as he moved over a year before becoming a LPR. and he spent most of the year before here in the US on the VWP. This is all questioned at interview? if so I don't see either way being wrong as it can be checked and its not trying to hide anything? the wording is so confusing. so i should only list the 2 trips since becoming an LPR, and list the days from 5 years. what about the number of trips, he's come and gone a few times on VWP in the prior year? how about the address question is this also 5 years?

Well, VWP might be questionable since it is only allowed to stay up to 90 consecutive days on VWP but if he didn't overstay he should have no problem. I don't think you guys overstayed since it would have come up in prior I-485 or I-751 cases.

Look at your GC. It will say "permanent resident since" and list trips you guys took from this date. That's all

N-400 application timeline

02-22-2012-- (00): documents sent

02-23-2012-- (01): NOA date

02-27-2012-- (05): check cashed

03-02-2012-- (09): bio appointment notice sent, bio date 03-15 (23)

03-05-2012-- (12): bio notice received

03-06-2012-- (13): early bio

03-12-2012-- (19): in line for interview scheduling

03-21-2012-- (28): scheduled for interview

03-28-2012-- (35): interview notice received

05-02-2012-- (70): interview. Rec. for Approval!

05-16-2012-- (84): in line for oath scheduling

06-19-2012-(118): scheduled for oath

06-21-2012-(120): oath letter received

07-06-2012-(135): oath

Passport application timeline

07-10-2012-- (00): application sent (card+book/routine service)

07-17-2012-- (07): application status online

07-26-2012-- (16): application on hold (name too long)

07-28-2012-- (18): RFI Tucson passport center (proposed shortened name) letter received

07-30-2012-- (20): reply sent to Tucson passport center

08-18-2012-- (39): passport book received

08-21-2012-- (42): passport card received

08-21-2012-- (42): CON received

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: England
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Thank you. No, he never overstayed, we just went back and forth, 90 days here, 90 there. We've only taken 2 trips since he got his green card, so that's not an issue. It's the 5 year thing that's confusing. But if we're honest, I don't see it being a problem either way, well at least I hope it's not.

Thanks again. Filing on April 16, when his 90 days opens.

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Rugby, England >> Harrisburg, PA.

Summer 2005 -- Met on Pokerstars.com

June 15th, 2006 -- Met in Person

Feb 1st, 2008 -- Filed I-129F

May 2nd, 2008 -- Visa Interview = Approved. (91days)

May 27th, 2008 -- Damian moves to America!

July 23rd - 30th, 2008 -- Damian's Mum Comes to the US for our wedding.

July 25th, 2008 -- Wedding Day!

March 16th, 2009 -- AOS Sent

May 8th, 2009 -- EAD & AP Approved (51days)

July 14th, 2009 -- AOS Approved!! (118days)

July 21st, 2009 -- Green Card Received (125days)

No RFEs the whole process :) All done myself.

December 4th - 30th, 2009 -- Visited England

April 8th - 30th, 2010 -- Damian's Brother visits us here in PA.

January 19th, 2010 -- Damian got his PA license.

December 10th - 19th, 2010 -- Visited England

September 16th - 30th, 2011 -- Damian's Parents came to visit us here in PA.

June 1st, 2011 -- Mailed ROC to Vermont.

February 21st, 2012 -- 10 Year Green Card Received

April 14th, 2012 -- N-400 Sent to Dallas Lockbox

November 26th, 2012 – Damian Became a US Citizen!!!

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England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

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