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Misconceptions About The Naturalization Process

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I would like to share this useful article about the many misconceptions of the naturalization process.

These misconceptions often occur as a result of rumors spread throughout the community. ...:o

You can find the link at:

http://www.immig-chi...ptionsrecit.pdf

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Thank you for this. The root website has other good stuff on it too. :thumbs:

I would like to share this useful article about the many misconceptions of the naturalization process.

These misconceptions often occur as a result of rumors spread throughout the community. ...:o

You can find the link at:

http://www.immig-chi...ptionsrecit.pdf


Marriage: 09-22-2007

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I-130 Sent: 10-10-2007

I-130 Approved: 06-03-2008 (236 days from VSC receipt to approval)

Case Complete at NVC: 07-30-2008 (52 days from NVC receipt to approval)

Consulate Interview date: 09-24-2008

POE Miami: 10-04-2008

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NOA1 Date: 07-12-2010

Biometrics Appt.: 09-01-2010 (Early Bio 08-13-2010)

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N-400 Sent: 07-08-2011

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NOA Priority Date: 07-12-2011

Biometrics Letter Rec'd: 08-01-2011

Biometrics Appt.: 08-19-2011 (Early Bio 08-12-2011)

"Placed in Line" Email and Touched: 08-16-2011

"Interview Scheduled" Email and Touched: 12-23-2011

Rec'd Interview Letter: 12-27-2011

Interview Passed: 01-30-2012

Email from Senator's Office Stating Application Was Approved: 06-18-2012

"Oath Scheduling Que" Email and Touched: 07-03-2012

Given Oath Date at InfoPass Appt. and Touched: 08-28-2012

Rec'd Oath Date Letter in Mail: 09-01-2012

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Thank you.

Really don't see anything new in there that is not already in the M-476 manual, instructions, or addendum added recently for evidence and proof of eligibility. But was a lot to sort out for your particular case.

This is required reading for the applicant, but apparently not required reading for the employees of the USCIS.

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This is required reading for the applicant, but apparently not required reading for the employees of the USCIS.

We went to apply for the wife's passport yesterday at an Acceptance Facility (Post Office). He asks for her ID.

"Um, the Naturalization Certificate is identification."

"Yeah, I know. Does she have ID?"

The wife gives him her California ID card. He photocopies that and comes back.

"Do you have your Marriage Certificate with you?"

(#######) "No."

"That's okay."

(Sheesh!)

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Correct.

Since it's possible and not too difficult for a fraudster to switch the photo on the Certificate on the CoN, a second photo ID is required to make sure the applicant is indeed the person she is pretending to be. For the same reason a birth certificate alone is not sufficient. I think it's a good policy.


There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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Correct.

Since it's possible and not too difficult for a fraudster to switch the photo on the Certificate on the CoN, a second photo ID is required to make sure the applicant is indeed the person she is pretending to be. For the same reason a birth certificate alone is not sufficient. I think it's a good policy.

Wifes' photo uses double side sticky tape, but has the USCIS seal have on her certificate and photo, stepdaughters photo is printed on her certificate, both got their drivers' license based on their then green cards. I showed my birth certificate just once to the DMV when I was 16, thereafter, it was my old drivers' license, even going from state to state. One reason given to me for the delay in my passport, was I had to be checked out. By whom, I don't know.

Only time in my life I was really checked is when I received my security clearance in the military, all my neighbors said two FBI spend the whole day checking me out. Witnessed my DMV telling applicants without any form of ID to bring in a utility bill for proof. Witnessing what my wife had to go through to get her state ID in Colombia, they are far far ahead of us with the amount of chasing around we had to do with documentation, unless we have some kind of secret system. But learned quite a bit during a tax audit, after I found out what they knew about me and my finances, just asked why they didn't send me the bill and why make me even bother with all their some odd 1025 forms.

DOS still trusts one of their 9,000 agents when filing the passport application in that the person they are interviewing is the same person on their certificate, but don't trust them to make a copy of their certificate, want the original. Maybe they have means to tell if it was forged all not.

Watched that counterfeiting program on the history channel, not easy for even a large group of people to forge a buck, but easy for a nation to do it. Use to carry a thousand dollar bill in my wallet. One thing they did change is the highest denomination is a hundred buck bill. Wouldn't be surprise if they cut that back to a buck. Would need a wheelbarrow to go grocery shopping.

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