Clyburn Likens Executive Order To Raise Debt Ceiling To Emancipation Proclamation

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Clyburn Likens Executive Order To Raise Debt Ceiling To Emancipation Proclamation

Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC): "I've said time and time again, if the President gets up to August 2nd, without a piece of legislation, he should not allow this country to go into default. He should sign an Executive Order invoking the 14th Amendment and send that to all the governmental agencies for us to continue to pay our bills. He could do that with a stroke of a pen.

"We've seen many big things done in history that way. I've joked with my staff the other day, 'tele me what was the bill number of the Emancipation Proclamation.' It was an Executive Order. We integrated the armed services by Executive Order. We integrated public schools by Executive Order. Sometimes executives must order that things get done."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/07/28/clyburn_likens_executive_order_to_raise_debt_ceiling_to_emancipation_proclamation.html

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The 14th Amendment doesn't need to be invoked. It's part of the Constitution. It's already invoked.

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The 14th Amendment doesn't need to be invoked. It's part of the Constitution. It's already invoked.

in·voke (n-vk)tr.v. in·voked, in·vok·ing, in·vokes

1. To call on (a higher power) for assistance, support, or inspiration: "Stretching out her hands she had the air of a Greek woman who invoked a deity" (Ford Madox Ford)

2. To appeal to or cite in support or justification

3. To call for earnestly; solicit: invoked the help of a passing motorist.

4. To summon with incantations; conjure

5. To resort to; use or apply: "Shamelessly, he invokes coincidence to achieve ironic effect" (Newsweek)

.6. Computer Science To activate or start (a program, for example).

Edited July 29, 2011 by Lord Infamous

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I was thinking in terms of meaning # 4. It doesn't need to be conjured up, it already exists.

Edited July 29, 2011 by \

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Because if he were to invoke it as in #4, things would get weirder than they already are now.

You originally said #3...

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Because if he were to invoke it as in #4, things would get weirder than they already are now.

You originally said #3...

Yeah I meant 4.

"Incantation" = executive order

"conjure" implies it's not in force now and needs to be conjured up. The constitution is always in force.

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Yeah I meant 4.

"Incantation" = executive order

"conjure" implies it's not in force now and needs to be conjured up. The constitution is always in force.

You can imagine though the Party of NO using even more theatrics, placing Obama in a Voldemoort outfit or something like it.

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You can imagine though the Party of NO using even more theatrics, placing Obama in a Voldemoort outfit or something like it.

You don't think they want him to do that?

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You don't think they want him to do that?

With people that live in fairy tales... anything is possible.

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It would be awesome if it came to that Obama the Socialist grew a pair of ballz and had to issue an executive order to pay bills. The finality of having a dictator ruling all Americans will be realized.;

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Does this mean Obama will finally free all the slaves in the Confederate States of America?

Edited July 29, 2011 by Crusty Old Perv

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It would be awesome if it came to that Obama the Socialist grew a pair of ballz and had to issue an executive order to pay bills. The finality of having a dictator ruling all Americans will be realized.;

You need to understand that Michele Bachmann really isn't that smart. She has no idea what the debt ceiling is. Ensuring that the government lives up to the Constitution is an oath that the President and members of Congress took. The Constitution is very clear on whether or not the validity of the country's debt is in any way questionable - it isn't. Some members of Congress - bimbo Michele included - don't take that oath very seriously. The President does and will act in such way to demonstrate it. It's not some dictator ruling as bimbo Michele is claiming.

Edited July 29, 2011 by Mr. Big Dog

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You need to understand that Michele Bachmann really isn't that smart. She has no idea what the debt ceiling is. Ensuring that the government lives up to the Constitution is an oath that the President and members of Congress took. The Constitution is very clear on whether or not the validity of the country's debt is in any way questionable - it isn't. Some members of Congress - bimbo Michele included - don't take that oath very seriously. The President does and will act in such way to demonstrate it. It's not some dictator ruling as bimbo Michele is claiming.

You're right. Obama is smart and the house/senate Dems are idiots for wanting him to invoke the 14th amendment.

Because obviously Obama has read the 5th clause of the 14th amendment and congress has not.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

You're right. Obama is smart and the house/senate Dems are idiots for wanting him to invoke the 14th amendment.

Because obviously Obama has read the 5th clause of the 14th amendment and congress has not.

Yeah, because Congress can just pass a law declaring the clause that prohibits the questioning of the nation's debt null and void.

Go back to pushing your medical claims forms. Maybe you're good at that.

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Yeah, because Congress can just pass a law declaring the clause that prohibits the questioning of the nation's debt null and void.

Go back to pushing your medical claims forms. Maybe you're good at that.

Don't make yourself look stupid. Seriously.

The clause says that congress can enforce the 14th amendment. Gives them exclusive power over it. NOT the executive branch.