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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: China
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Good evening everyone! My fiance has her interview in China on the 12th of July. Up to this point every thing has been OK, slow but OK. I have an attorney in China helping her get ready for the interview. I just found out that the attornery has told her if asked about belonging to the CCP she should say NO. Well I know that is not entirely true. Yes she did stop paying dues in April of this year. The attorney told her because she stopped paying dues she can answer the question NO. I do not feel very good about this and now she does not know what to do and she is very nervous about her interview. Any ideas? Thank you for your help. I only hope that some day I will be able to help some one else!

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: China
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Even answering Yes, will only take 1 or 2 more months to get the visa. I don't know how the consulate check whether someone is a CCP, if they find she is lying, then it could be something big. And stop paying since April, doesn't mean she is no longer a CCP.


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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Answering yes to the CCP question (it's asked 99.99% of the time) will result in automatic AP (Administrative Processing) for a Security Advisory Opinion (SAO) from the Department of Homeland Security.

OP: Based on what you have posted and of the first reply, I would suggest that she answer yes and that she quit paying dues in April. You don't want the Consulate to determine she was not telling the truth. If I'm off base with this suggestion, someone else can correct me and give you a better suggestion.


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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: China
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They will ask "are you, have you ever been a member of the CCP?" If she says no and they are able to determine she is/was, this is a material misrepresentation and will result in a ban for life. Don't do this.


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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: China
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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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I have heard this question asked two different ways.

1. Are you a member of the Communist Party? Your fiance can say No since she is not presently a member. I would make sure she had the evidence of quitting.

2. Sometimes as a followup, sometimes only - Have you ever been a member of the Communist Party? The answer to this is Yes, again she can show she has quit.

As others have said, this will generate a blue slip and the addtional background check. They also ask for a statement concerning membership and a detailed resume.

And do not lie, if they can show you lied, you have a big problem you may not be able to overcome.

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Your fiancee will need to fill out the GNI-2 supplemental form which is part of the K-1 Packet 4. Question 7 on that form asks the applicant to list all organizations & political parties that they are now or have been a member of or affiliated with since their 16th birthday. Since she will need to disclose her past party membership on that form anyway, there is no benefit in trying cover the fact up by answering 'No' to the potential question of is she currently a CCP member. If I were you, I would suggest to her that if asked that question that she answer truthfully with a response such as - "No, I have not been a member since April".

http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/forms_and_packets.htm

http://photos.state.gov/libraries/guangzhou/47024/K12%20p4/Supplemental_Form_GNI-2.pdf

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Filed: Country: China
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My understanding is that she needs to formally withdraw from the party. Just stopping the dues isn't enough. I know I have read other places about people who have done this and there is a process for withdrawing that needs to be completed and then I believe a letter from the party that can be notarized and presented at the interview.


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