How government regulations create more demand for government programs

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Many NPOs

Or the health insurance industry

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[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Or just letting people exercise their own liberties.

What liberties? To see rivers catching on fire? To have oil float in the Gulf of Mexico destroying businesses along it's coastline? Those liberties? ** them.

[slim 1,514]

In the UK,

In the last 250 years, the UK has gone from running the world to being isolated on their own little island(s). The US, on the other hand, has done the exact opposite.

Very successful government, I'd say.

Many NPOs

Do NPOs benefit from, say, government restrictions? (How about government exemptions?)

Or the health insurance industry

Without government regulation, where would they be?

What liberties? To see rivers catching on fire? To have oil float in the Gulf of Mexico destroying businesses along it's coastline? Those liberties? ** them.

The liberties for private industry to do what they do without the government giving them guidelines.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Name one business out there that could succeed if they manufactured nothing, sold nothing, and got bigger every year.

Nothing, eh? We do nothing as a nation. Nada.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

The liberties for private industry to do what they do without the government giving them guidelines.

You live in Ohio, yes? Remember what these liberties resulted in? The fcuking Cuyahoga River was on fire.

Woburn, MA? PG&E in California?

That's what happens when private industry is left to it's own devices and doesn't hacve effective rules and oversight. People fcuking die.

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[slim 1,514]

That's what happens when private industry is left to it's own devices and doesn't hacve effective rules and oversight. People fcuking die.

Private industry doesn't get that way UNTIL government intervenes.

Look back at the railroads and westward expansion. Coal mines with no child labor laws, etc.

None of those companies would've made it without government allowing them "other" privileges such as denying their competition the right to participate or regulating them out of existence.

[Ban Hammer 12,842]

You live in Ohio, yes? Remember what these liberties resulted in? The fcuking Cuyahoga River was on fire.

Woburn, MA? PG&E in California?

That's what happens when private industry is left to it's own devices and doesn't hacve effective rules and oversight. People fcuking die.

so you're now against burying nuclear waste in kansas?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Private industry doesn't get that way UNTIL government intervenes.

Huh? Come again? I think our rivers tend not to catch on fire anymore because we have since learned that you cannot count on businesses to be responsible enough not to pollute our land to where it revolts. Clean water regulations are what keeps our rivers from going aflame not private industry.

so you're now against burying nuclear waste in kansas?

Only if we get to frack the hell out of it.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

That's what happens when private industry Government is left to it's own devices and doesn't hacve effective rules and oversight. People fcuking die.

fixed.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Bravo Paul, yet another Nazi reference. So compelling and not a hint of hyperbole

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

In the last 250 years, the UK has gone from running the world to being isolated on their own little island(s). The US, on the other hand, has done the exact opposite.

Very successful government, I'd say.

Do NPOs benefit from, say, government restrictions? (How about government exemptions?)

Without government regulation, where would they be?

The liberties for private industry to do what they do without the government giving them guidelines.

UK history and politics in under 40 words. Brilliant Slim, such an insightful analysis. Don't let anyone ever (ever) tell you that you're full of sh!t. Because you totally aren't.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Bravo Paul, yet another Nazi reference. So compelling and not a hint of hyperbole

the point is, you need a fair balance on all sides. Regulations are necessary, but not over burdensome. Government needs to be kept in check as well and at a level where we do not have career politicians controlling our lives with them in office for 30+ years (*cough* John McCain).

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

There's no point Paul, invoking the Nazis in this context is stupid. It makes you look ridiculous.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

There's no point Paul, invoking the Nazis in this context is stupid. It makes you look ridiculous.

That's because you trust too much in government and feel you have control over it.

Remember that the next time your government does something you don't like and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Thats another of your 'rational' conclusions is it? Utter garbage.