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[sassafrass417 0]

We have the certified court documents for my fiance's two previous minor crimes, one of which he had an 8-week probation for. Is this enough for the consulate? The court documents don't list any real details of the crime, just the punishment imposed. We requested all related documentation from the court but this is all we got back. Do we need anything further for our upcoming interview on April 26th? We just want to be as prepared as possible. Thank you!

[Nik+Heather 121]

Do they list the charges as well as the sentence?

It may help to understand what they are looking for in order for you to determine if you have the appropriate documentation. They are looking for crimes which would make your fiance inadmissible. These would include crimes of moral turpitude (Google it for a list) and I think some certain drug related crimes. There is also a minimum sentence (I think it's something along the lines of 5 years in prison, certainly not 8 months probation) which raises flags. Even then, if enough time has passed, the inadmissibility goes away for some things.

I'm not a particular expert, but interpreting what I know (listed above) it is my understanding that if your records include Dates, Charges & the outcome, it should be enough information for the consular officer to make a determination on your fiance's case.

[sassafrass417 0]

Do they list the charges as well as the sentence?

It may help to understand what they are looking for in order for you to determine if you have the appropriate documentation. They are looking for crimes which would make your fiance inadmissible. These would include crimes of moral turpitude (Google it for a list) and I think some certain drug related crimes. There is also a minimum sentence (I think it's something along the lines of 5 years in prison, certainly not 8 months probation) which raises flags. Even then, if enough time has passed, the inadmissibility goes away for some things.

I'm not a particular expert, but interpreting what I know (listed above) it is my understanding that if your records include Dates, Charges & the outcome, it should be enough information for the consular officer to make a determination on your fiance's case.

Thanks so much for your detailed response. The court records do list the sentence imposed as 8 weeks probation and the date of the occurrence, just very little else. We were thinking they would have a little more detail on the actual crime. Obviously, we want to have everything possible lined up for the interview as we are a little nervous. The laws are a bit vague on moral turpitude in general but yes, as far as the sentencing goes, 8 months probation is very little. Thanks again!

[SunDrop 59]

What about his subject access? Worth getting, I'm sure, since his police certificate will/ should have come back "No Live Trace".

[sassafrass417 0]

What about his subject access? Worth getting, I'm sure, since his police certificate will/ should have come back "No Live Trace".

No, the police report came back with his two crimes on it. One for "using harrassing language" & another for "assault on a constable." He got a fine for the language charge and 8 weeks probation for assault on a constable. It also has the sentence listed on the police report.

[Nik+Heather 121]

Again, I'm not an expert, but if I was doing it, I would probably consider what you have to be complete enough documentation of the facts.

I will only add that your fiance should probably prepare himself to answer questions about the events. He should be honest, but stick to KISS - answer the question which is asked, and don't ramble on. I'm not sure how your fiance feels about all of that, but he'll need to speak about it neutrally and without evasiveness.

[sassafrass417 0]

Again, I'm not an expert, but if I was doing it, I would probably consider what you have to be complete enough documentation of the facts.

I will only add that your fiance should probably prepare himself to answer questions about the events. He should be honest, but stick to KISS - answer the question which is asked, and don't ramble on. I'm not sure how your fiance feels about all of that, but he'll need to speak about it neutrally and without evasiveness.

You're definitely right about answering the questions asked and being totally honest. We'll definitely update everyone on how it goes!

[trojam227 18]

I know the London Embassy wants an ACPO (police certificate) & Certified Court Records(known as memorandum of conviction in the uk) for each offense...as long as you got the certified copies from the court in which he was convicted you should be good to go. I think it will be up to the interviewing officer to decide whether he/she feels his crimes involve Moral Turpitude or not..."Assault" seems to be shady...some types are CIMT and some are not. Good Luck to you both!!

[웃 910]

You are fine. IMO the crimes seem so minor you could have left them blank.....I just followed the doctors orders too (years ago) and listed about 5 or 6 (also minor offenses) and I was fine....

[sassafrass417 0]

Thanks everyone for your help, the interview went very smoothly and was approved this morning! We are so happy!

[Ironman140 45]

Thanks everyone for your help, the interview went very smoothly and was approved this morning! We are so happy!

Congratulations ;-)