Constitutional Rights are God given to ALL MANKIND

[Veiled Princess 1]

The bill of rights is for Americans, not all of mankind. If other countries want to adopt it I would be all for that. As far as the Patriot act goes, I think it should be strengthend not repealed. It only affects those that want to harm us. It does not infringe on ANY rights given to us under the Constitution. I don't understand why people want to give rights to the terrorist. They don't deserve them because they are not Americans.

When mosques are searched and the people there harrassed for no other reason than it's a mosque that is infringing upon those people's constitutional right to choose and practice their own religion without BS from the govt. FYI, the majority of the people attending those mosques are American citizens if not legal aliens who love America and came here for a better life for their families OR were born here.

When someone's telephone calls are listened to for no other reason than they are talking to a loved one in another country their right to privacy is being violated.

Eventually the US will do away with the constitution so we can't use it to defend the rights the govt wants to take away so badly today.

[GaryC 7]

God may want all of mankind to live free with the rights we have under the Constitution but make no mistake about it. They were not granted to us. The were EARNED by the blood and sacrifice of millions of brave men and women over the last 200 odd years. And the minute we stop defending those right we will loose them. The terrorists that you want to "grant" our hard earned rights to are the very people that want to take them away from us!!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

God may want all of mankind to live free with the rights we have under the Constitution but make no mistake about it. They were not granted to us. The were EARNED by the blood and sacrifice of millions of brave men and women over the last 200 odd years. And the minute we stop defending those right we will loose them. The terrorists that you want to "grant" our hard earned rights to are the very people that want to take them away from us!!

Its a strange argument to make that in order to defend constitutional rights you have to first take them away - which is exactly what the Patriot Act legislation does.

[GaryC 7]

The bill of rights is for Americans, not all of mankind. If other countries want to adopt it I would be all for that. As far as the Patriot act goes, I think it should be strengthend not repealed. It only affects those that want to harm us. It does not infringe on ANY rights given to us under the Constitution. I don't understand why people want to give rights to the terrorist. They don't deserve them because they are not Americans.

When mosques are searched and the people there harrassed for no other reason than it's a mosque that is infringing upon those people's constitutional right to choose and practice their own religion without BS from the govt. FYI, the majority of the people attending those mosques are American citizens if not legal aliens who love America and came here for a better life for their families OR were born here.

When someone's telephone calls are listened to for no other reason than they are talking to a loved one in another country their right to privacy is being violated.

Eventually the US will do away with the constitution so we can't use it to defend the rights the govt wants to take away so badly today.

Name a mosque in America that was searched without the due process of the law. You can't. No ones phone calls are being listened to unless the one in America is talking to a suspected terrorist outside the country. The US will never do away with the constitution unless we stop defending it.

[Fuzzness 2]

I can't see how anyone who loves America and believes in the ideas on which it was founded could ever think the patriot act is a good idea.

[*Robert* 2]

The bill of rights is for Americans, not all of mankind. If other countries want to adopt it I would be all for that. As far as the Patriot act goes, I think it should be strengthend not repealed. It only affects those that want to harm us. It does not infringe on ANY rights given to us under the Constitution. I don't understand why people want to give rights to the terrorist. They don't deserve them because they are not Americans.

When mosques are searched and the people there harrassed for no other reason than it's a mosque that is infringing upon those people's constitutional right to choose and practice their own religion without BS from the govt. FYI, the majority of the people attending those mosques are American citizens if not legal aliens who love America and came here for a better life for their families OR were born here.

When someone's telephone calls are listened to for no other reason than they are talking to a loved one in another country their right to privacy is being violated.

Eventually the US will do away with the constitution so we can't use it to defend the rights the govt wants to take away so badly today.

Name a mosque in America that was searched without the due process of the law. You can't. No ones phone calls are being listened to unless the one in America is talking to a suspected terrorist outside the country. The US will never do away with the constitution unless we stop defending it.

It won't be done away with, but our current administration certainly doesn't seem to be bound by it!!!

[GaryC 7]

I can't see how anyone who loves America and believes in the ideas on which it was founded could ever think the patriot act is a good idea.

I don't see how someone that loves his country and wants to keep his rights could not think the Patriot act is a good idea. Would someone please tell me a part of the Patriot act the abridges any part of the constitution?

I would really like to see it.

Edited September 3, 2006 by Iniibig ko si Luz forever

[Fuzzness 2]

I can't see how anyone who loves America and believes in the ideas on which it was founded could ever think the patriot act is a good idea.

I don't see how someone that loves his country and wants to keep his rights could not think the Patriot act is a good idea.

maybe because, as already stated with examples, the patriot act TAKES AWAY RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I can't see how anyone who loves America and believes in the ideas on which it was founded could ever think the patriot act is a good idea.

I don't see how someone that loves his country and wants to keep his rights could not think the Patriot act is a good idea. Would someone please tell me a part of the Patriot act the abridges any part of the constitution?

I would really like to see it.

This is interesting:

German Weimar Constitution prior to 1933

The above constitution was effectively destroyed by two pieces of legislation that were apparently deemed to be in the "national need".

Reichstag Fire Decree

Enabling Act

Edited September 3, 2006 by erekose

[GaryC 7]

I can't see how anyone who loves America and believes in the ideas on which it was founded could ever think the patriot act is a good idea.

I don't see how someone that loves his country and wants to keep his rights could not think the Patriot act is a good idea.

maybe because, as already stated with examples, the patriot act TAKES AWAY RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS?

Name the rights and freedoms that it takes away.

I can't see how anyone who loves America and believes in the ideas on which it was founded could ever think the patriot act is a good idea.

I don't see how someone that loves his country and wants to keep his rights could not think the Patriot act is a good idea. Would someone please tell me a part of the Patriot act the abridges any part of the constitution?

I would really like to see it.

This is interesting:

German Weimar Constitution prior to 1933

The above constitution was effectively destroyed by two pieces of legislation that were apparently deemed to be in the "national need".

Reichstag Fire Decree

Enabling Act

And what relevence does that have to our constitution and the patriot act. None

Edited September 3, 2006 by Iniibig ko si Luz forever

[Fuzzness 2]

I can't see how anyone who loves America and believes in the ideas on which it was founded could ever think the patriot act is a good idea.

I don't see how someone that loves his country and wants to keep his rights could not think the Patriot act is a good idea.

maybe because, as already stated with examples, the patriot act TAKES AWAY RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS?

Name the rights and freedoms that it takes away.

the right to privacy. or is that a liberal lie?

this is what the constitution says:

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

I believe that tapping the telephone without the person's knowledge is against this amendment.

Edited September 3, 2006 by Fuzzness

[GaryC 7]

the right to privacy. or is that a liberal lie?

What ammendment to the constitution says we have a right to privacy? Which one? I don't see anything there about communications. Only property.

Edited September 3, 2006 by Iniibig ko si Luz forever

[Fuzzness 2]

I just posted it. Now are you going to tell me that it is intended for something other than what it says?

[GaryC 7]

I just posted it. Now are you going to tell me that it is intended for something other than what it says?

Tapping a phone as you call it is not protected under the constitution. And the only conversations they are listening to are the ones that have one party outside the US. And only if one of them is a suspected terrorist. The phone calls are intercepted outside the USA. Therefore they are not subject to warrents. What objections do you have for trying to find out what the enemy is doing next? Would you rather just have them have free reign to plan as they want to and kill us?

[Fuzzness 2]

The patriot act also allows for searches of private property without notice to the property owner. Due process is also protected by the constitution.

You would have a greatly different view on the patriot act if you were asian or arab.