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Hi Everyone,

My fiancee and I happen to have the same last name (Nguyen) which is very common in our country. Our attorney said we might face a problem in the interview process that they may think we are related in some ways. My fiancee have her birth certificate along with her mother and father birth certificates, which list the parent names. That is a good thing on her side. For me, my family left Vietnam in 1982 which is almost 30 years ago. I don't have any record of my birth certificate, my father nor my mother.

My question is beside birth certificates, can you think of any other documents to prove that we not related?

Thanks again.


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DNA testing maybe?


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DNA testing maybe?

I thought of that too, but if they think we are cousin, then DNA testing is not good enough for them.


Finacee Visa Journey - Process

07/06/2010 - I129F Sent

07/27/2010 - Received NOA1 in mail

07/16/2010 - NOA1 Dated

12/13/2010 - Received NOA2 in mail

12/08/2010 - NOA2 Dated

12/16/2010 - NVC Received Approved Petition

12/20/2010 - NVC Sent Approved Petition to Vietnam (HCM) through DHL

12/23/2010 - US Embassy/Consulate Received

12/31/2010 - Packet 3 Received

01/03/2011 - Packet 3 Sent

02/12/2011 - Packet 4 Received

03/15/2011 - Interview Date - Interview Result - Approved!!!!!

03/23/2011 - Visa picked up

04/08/2011 - Leave Vietnam POE (San Francisco)

04/12/2011 - Applied for SSN

04/16/2011 - Medical Exam, Married in Berea, Ohio Court

04/25/2011 - Working At My Elder Brother Store

Adjustment of Status - I-485

04/27/2011 - Filed I-485 along with I-864 AOS

04/28/2011 - File Sent Through Post Office

05/09/2011 - Received Acceptance Confirmation Email From USCIS

05/06/2011 - NOA1 Dated

06/07/2011 - Biometric Appointment for I-485

Employment Authorization - I-765

04/27/2011 - Filed I-765

04/28/2011 - File Sent Through Post Office

05/09/2011 - Received Acceptance Confirmation Email From USCIS

05/06/2011 - NOA1 Dated

06/07/2011 - Biometric Appointment for I-765

Advance Parole - I-131

04/27/2011 - Filed I-131

04/28/2011 - File Sent Through Post Office

05/09/2011 - Received Acceptance Confirmation Email From USCIS

05/06/2011 - NOA1 Dated

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DNA would show not closely related as in sibling, perhaps see about getting birth record from Vietnam.

Birth Certificates

Vietnamese law does not distinguish between children born out of wedlock and legitimate children. If the father recognizes the child either parent may file the birth certificate, which must be registered within 30 days at the People's Committee of the village, ward or district capital where at least one parent is resident. Late registration is permitted with reason. A court must resolve claims or denials of paternity after a certificate has been issued. Legally, two U.S. citizens not resident in Vietnam may register the births of their children born there, but in practice local authorities have denied requests unless one parent is legally resident. Birth certificates after 1989 are white with green background designs and with the national emblem in red. Before 1989, each locality had its own format. Originals have one line listing registration date. Extracts list both registration and extract dates. Usually, however, no distinction is made between an extract and an official copy.

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DNA would show not closely related as in sibling, perhaps see about getting birth record from Vietnam.

http://travel.state.gov/visa/fees/fees_4881.html?cid=3705

Moving this to the regional discussion forum...

I just went back to Vietnam in 2011 to celebrate Vietnamese New Year there with my fiancee and her family. I asked to get a birth certificate for myself and the Vietnamese authority was so rude to me. They told me that they wouldn't do it, since I have nothing to prove that I am my mother and my father son. They want me to go back to U.S and get a record to show that I am a real son of my mother and my father. In addition, they can only do one birth certificate for me if I provide them all that documents. They wouldn't do a birth certificate for my father and my mother. Note: My mother and my father passed away, so they won't be able to do a birth certificate. I only have their death certificates.

Thanks


Finacee Visa Journey - Process

07/06/2010 - I129F Sent

07/27/2010 - Received NOA1 in mail

07/16/2010 - NOA1 Dated

12/13/2010 - Received NOA2 in mail

12/08/2010 - NOA2 Dated

12/16/2010 - NVC Received Approved Petition

12/20/2010 - NVC Sent Approved Petition to Vietnam (HCM) through DHL

12/23/2010 - US Embassy/Consulate Received

12/31/2010 - Packet 3 Received

01/03/2011 - Packet 3 Sent

02/12/2011 - Packet 4 Received

03/15/2011 - Interview Date - Interview Result - Approved!!!!!

03/23/2011 - Visa picked up

04/08/2011 - Leave Vietnam POE (San Francisco)

04/12/2011 - Applied for SSN

04/16/2011 - Medical Exam, Married in Berea, Ohio Court

04/25/2011 - Working At My Elder Brother Store

Adjustment of Status - I-485

04/27/2011 - Filed I-485 along with I-864 AOS

04/28/2011 - File Sent Through Post Office

05/09/2011 - Received Acceptance Confirmation Email From USCIS

05/06/2011 - NOA1 Dated

06/07/2011 - Biometric Appointment for I-485

Employment Authorization - I-765

04/27/2011 - Filed I-765

04/28/2011 - File Sent Through Post Office

05/09/2011 - Received Acceptance Confirmation Email From USCIS

05/06/2011 - NOA1 Dated

06/07/2011 - Biometric Appointment for I-765

Advance Parole - I-131

04/27/2011 - Filed I-131

04/28/2011 - File Sent Through Post Office

05/09/2011 - Received Acceptance Confirmation Email From USCIS

05/06/2011 - NOA1 Dated

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I thought of that too, but if they think we are cousin, then DNA testing is not good enough for them.

hm true ! didn't think of the cousin part..


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Your I-129f was approved in 5 days from your NOA1 date.

Your interview took 67 days from your I-129F NOA1 date.

AOS was approved in 2 months and 8 days without interview.

ROC was approved in 3 months and 2 days without interview.

I am a Citizen of the United States of America. 04/16/13

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I just went back to Vietnam in 2011 to celebrate Vietnamese New Year there with my fiancee and her family. I asked to get a birth certificate for myself and the Vietnamese authority was so rude to me. They told me that they wouldn't do it, since I have nothing to prove that I am my mother and my father son. They want me to go back to U.S and get a record to show that I am a real son of my mother and my father. In addition, they can only do one birth certificate for me if I provide them all that documents. They wouldn't do a birth certificate for my father and my mother. Note: My mother and my father passed away, so they won't be able to do a birth certificate. I only have their death certificates.

Thanks

Oh boy.

Lets hope this does not come up in interview, I would simply provide the normal American evidence, Copy of passport to show trips to and from, naturalization cert to show when became a citizen.

Does fiancee have any relatives in the states, and do you live near them, and/or know them?


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Oh boy.

Lets hope this does not come up in interview, I would simply provide the normal American evidence, Copy of passport to show trips to and from, naturalization cert to show when became a citizen.

Does fiancee have any relatives in the states, and do you live near them, and/or know them?

I can easily provide them my school or medical records to show my father and my mother name, but they may think my father or my mother somehow related to her mother or her father. :-(

No, my fiancee doesn't have any relative in U.S.


Finacee Visa Journey - Process

07/06/2010 - I129F Sent

07/27/2010 - Received NOA1 in mail

07/16/2010 - NOA1 Dated

12/13/2010 - Received NOA2 in mail

12/08/2010 - NOA2 Dated

12/16/2010 - NVC Received Approved Petition

12/20/2010 - NVC Sent Approved Petition to Vietnam (HCM) through DHL

12/23/2010 - US Embassy/Consulate Received

12/31/2010 - Packet 3 Received

01/03/2011 - Packet 3 Sent

02/12/2011 - Packet 4 Received

03/15/2011 - Interview Date - Interview Result - Approved!!!!!

03/23/2011 - Visa picked up

04/08/2011 - Leave Vietnam POE (San Francisco)

04/12/2011 - Applied for SSN

04/16/2011 - Medical Exam, Married in Berea, Ohio Court

04/25/2011 - Working At My Elder Brother Store

Adjustment of Status - I-485

04/27/2011 - Filed I-485 along with I-864 AOS

04/28/2011 - File Sent Through Post Office

05/09/2011 - Received Acceptance Confirmation Email From USCIS

05/06/2011 - NOA1 Dated

06/07/2011 - Biometric Appointment for I-485

Employment Authorization - I-765

04/27/2011 - Filed I-765

04/28/2011 - File Sent Through Post Office

05/09/2011 - Received Acceptance Confirmation Email From USCIS

05/06/2011 - NOA1 Dated

06/07/2011 - Biometric Appointment for I-765

Advance Parole - I-131

04/27/2011 - Filed I-131

04/28/2011 - File Sent Through Post Office

05/09/2011 - Received Acceptance Confirmation Email From USCIS

05/06/2011 - NOA1 Dated

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It is extremely common in VN for people to have the same family name. I would say that the consulate is aware of that fact. Especially with the name Nguye, I doubt that having the same family name will make the consulate think you are related.

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I can easily provide them my school or medical records to show my father and my mother name, but they may think my father or my mother somehow related to her mother or her father. :-(

No, my fiancee doesn't have any relative in U.S.

Then I would not worry about this point unless it comes up at interview.

Knowing or working for a relative in the US tends to be a red flag.


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It is extremely common in VN for people to have the same family name. I would say that the consulate is aware of that fact. Especially with the name Nguye, I doubt that having the same family name will make the consulate think you are related.

Actually it happens more often that one would think given the fact that the majority of the country is limited to a handfull of surnames. This topic has actually been discussed here in the past few years and I know Jim is familiar with this... It is common for those coming here 25 or 30 years ago to have no birth certs... children born on the boats etc have limited options...

DNA is a possibility, but would likely take a while to get done... A friend has been waiting for quite some time to get a DNA result to come here to be with his parents... his test was done in Oct...


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