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Naturalization - Thoughts as a Canadian?

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I'm at the point in my life where I'd like to file sooner rather than later for Naturalization.

If it's like most websites say, "realively" benign, then I am all for it. My biggest fear however is losing my Canadian Citizenship (or ability to move back) and this would absolutely stop me from moving forward with the process. I'm thinking of maybe seeing an immigration lawyer but it would suck to pay so much money for them to regurgitate information I already know.

For those with duel citizenship how was this process? Did you go see a lawyer first?

Any other thoughts would be greatly appreciated :)


Officially a citizen. My journey took 6 years, 6 months, and 29 days

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Shoot I couldn't find the edit button!

I just wanted to add that I understand losing my citizenship is pretty much unfounded. It's hard not to be a tad apprehensive when looking at everything involved with this.


Officially a citizen. My journey took 6 years, 6 months, and 29 days

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You can have dual citizenship you don't give up your Canadian citizenship.You would have to give one up if you were to become a citizen in third country I believe. A good friend of mine and former roommate went through the whole process if you do go back to Canada you will still have to file taxes in the US. I don't think Canadians need to file taxes in Canada while residing here.

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There are 250 countries in the world. In Saudi Arabia, they execute you if you exercise another citizenship, in China or Russia, they don't allow it. In Germany or Austria, you need permission from the Government, and in the U.K. and Canada, they send you flowers accompanied by a card saying "Congratulations!"

You are blessed with having Canadian citizenship, as Canada is total cool with you becoming a US citizen. Of all the possible disadvantages people from other countries try to come up with, none of those apply to Canadians. Yes, you can be called for jury duty, but I wouldn't even call that a burden. There is no way for you to lose your Canadian citizenship; it's just not possible, even if you joined the Taliban or Al Queda and bombed the sh*t out of Toronto.

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There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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You can have dual! In Canada's eyes your Cdn and a USA citizen. IN uncle sams eyes, your just an American citizen!

lawyer?? hell no, Naturalization was much much easier than what the CR-1 process was and had VJ. Whole forum on VJ for Naturalization.


Canadians Visiting the USA while undergoing the visa process, my free advice:

1) Always tell the TRUTH. never lie to the POE officer

2) Be confident in ur replies

3) keep ur response short and to the point, don't tell ur life story!!

4) look the POE officer in the eye when speaking to them. They are looking for people lieing and have been trained to find them!

5) Pack light! No job resumes with you

6) Bring ties to Canada (letter from employer when ur expected back at work, lease, etc etc)

7) Always be polite, being rude isn't going to get ya anywhere, and could make things worse!!

8) Have a plan in case u do get denied (be polite) It wont harm ur visa application if ur denied,that is if ur polite and didn't lie! Refer to #1

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Study for the test!

The forms are easy you don't need a lawyer to help you with any part of N-400. Check out the guide on VJ, thats all you need to get you going on the forms etc. USCIS has downloadable cue cards for studying and there are some online practice tests you can take.


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Canadians Visiting the USA while undergoing the visa process, my free advice:

1) Always tell the TRUTH. never lie to the POE officer

2) Be confident in ur replies

3) keep ur response short and to the point, don't tell ur life story!!

4) look the POE officer in the eye when speaking to them. They are looking for people lieing and have been trained to find them!

5) Pack light! No job resumes with you

6) Bring ties to Canada (letter from employer when ur expected back at work, lease, etc etc)

7) Always be polite, being rude isn't going to get ya anywhere, and could make things worse!!

8) Have a plan in case u do get denied (be polite) It wont harm ur visa application if ur denied,that is if ur polite and didn't lie! Refer to #1

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When people ask me what citizenship I have--i just say Canadian,lol


Canadians Visiting the USA while undergoing the visa process, my free advice:

1) Always tell the TRUTH. never lie to the POE officer

2) Be confident in ur replies

3) keep ur response short and to the point, don't tell ur life story!!

4) look the POE officer in the eye when speaking to them. They are looking for people lieing and have been trained to find them!

5) Pack light! No job resumes with you

6) Bring ties to Canada (letter from employer when ur expected back at work, lease, etc etc)

7) Always be polite, being rude isn't going to get ya anywhere, and could make things worse!!

8) Have a plan in case u do get denied (be polite) It wont harm ur visa application if ur denied,that is if ur polite and didn't lie! Refer to #1

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Had an interesting conversation with my team lead when I mentioned I was going for citizenship yesterday...she said it was too bad I had to give up my Cdn....and of course my response was 'uhm, nope - I'll be dual'. She had no clue that was allowed...she somehow thought I was trying to scam something until I explained that I could even possibly be triple had I had British citizenship as well...she was intregued.

If gaining my US citizenship meant giving up my Cdn, I wouldn't be doing it :) I'm allowed to love both.


Wiz(USC) and Udella(Cdn & USC!)

Naturalization

02/22/11 - Filed

02/28/11 - NOA

03/28/11 - FP

06/17/11 - status change - scheduled for interview

06/20?/11 - received physical interview letter

07/13/11 - Interview in Fairfax,VA - easiest 10 minutes of my life

07/19/11 - Oath ceremony in Fairfax, VA

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Removal of Conditions

12/1/09 - received at VSC

12/2/09 - NOA's for self and daughter

01/12/10 - Biometrics completed

03/15/10 - 10 Green Card Received - self and daughter

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Yes it's very hard to ever lose your Canadian citizenship. You actually would have to go through a process that requires paper work and a bunch of other things. From what I hear it's a pain in the #### if you really need to do it at some point (like say some high clearence government jobs that require you only to be a US citizen, even then most would also require you were born a US citizen too).

When I got my US citizenship, that's the country and the citizen I reconize myself from. The Canadian one (with my now expired passport) is just some default thing the Canadian government thinks of me as and that's it. I enter Canada as a US citizen, I travel the world as a US citizen and now all my friends and family here in the US don't laugh that I'm a Canadian, then now acknowlodge that I'm an American and don't make fun of me anymore (other then the fact they always have claimed I was the worst Canadian in history)...


I'm just a wanderer in the desert winds...

Timeline

1997

Oct - Job offer in US

Nov - Received my TN-1 to be authorized to work in the US

Nov - Moved to US

1998-2001

Recieved 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th TN

2002

May - Met future wife at arts fest

Nov - Recieved 6th TN

2003

Nov - Recieved 7th TN

Jul - Our Wedding

Aug - Filed for AOS

Sep - Recieved EAD

Sep - Recieved Advanced Parole

2004

Jan - Interview, accepted for Green Card

Feb - Green Card Arrived in mail

2005

Oct - I-751 sent off

2006

Jan - 10 year Green Card accepted

Mar - 10 year Green Card arrived

Oct - Filed N-400 for Naturalization

Nov - Biometrics done

Nov - Just recieved Naturalization Interview date for Jan.

2007

Jan - Naturalization Interview Completed

Feb - Oath Letter recieved

Feb - Oath Ceremony

Feb 21 - Finally a US CITIZEN (yay)

THE END

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Yes it's very hard to ever lose your Canadian citizenship. You actually would have to go through a process that requires paper work and a bunch of other things.

Actually, Warlord, tha'ts not "losing" citizenship. That's renouncing it. Losing requires an involuntary act. Most countries allow their citizens to renounce their citizenship, but that's not what the O.P. is concerned about. She could lose her US citizenship if she joined a terrorist organization and committed terrorist acts on the United States or becomes the Queen of another country, but she can't lose her Canadian citizenship, ever. There's just no way in hell.

On the subject of the security clearance I can contribute as well, as some fellow Germans had to deal with that issue when joining the US military. Oftentimes, totally surprising, MP showed up at the soldier's doorstep and escorted them to the German Consulate to renounce their German citizenship. What's not commonly known is that this is not required. Required is to refrain from excercising another citizenship than the US one, so the smart people surrendered their German passport to the German embassy and got a receipt to that effect. Once they are released from military duty, they go back and pick it up again.


There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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We all know what warlord is talking about as this same topic comes up very often here in the Cdn forum! here is how you can renounce ur cdn citizenship http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizenship/renounce-how.asp

Quite simply--your not going to loose it by becoming a USA citizen!


Canadians Visiting the USA while undergoing the visa process, my free advice:

1) Always tell the TRUTH. never lie to the POE officer

2) Be confident in ur replies

3) keep ur response short and to the point, don't tell ur life story!!

4) look the POE officer in the eye when speaking to them. They are looking for people lieing and have been trained to find them!

5) Pack light! No job resumes with you

6) Bring ties to Canada (letter from employer when ur expected back at work, lease, etc etc)

7) Always be polite, being rude isn't going to get ya anywhere, and could make things worse!!

8) Have a plan in case u do get denied (be polite) It wont harm ur visa application if ur denied,that is if ur polite and didn't lie! Refer to #1

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