Taxation without representation...

[Henia 11]

What Happened?

At first I thought this was funny... then I realized the awful truth of it. Be sure to read all the way to the end!

Tax his land, Tax his bed, Tax the table At which he's fed.

Tax his tractor, Tax his mule, Teach him taxes Are the rule.

Tax his cow, Tax his goat, Tax his pants, Tax his coat.

Tax his ties, Tax his shirt, Tax his work, Tax his dirt.

Tax his tobacco, Tax his drink, Tax him if he Tries to think.

Tax his cigars, Tax his beers, If he cries, then Tax his tears.

Tax his car, Tax his gas, Find other ways To tax his ###

Tax all he has Then let him know That you won't be done Till he has no dough.

When he screams and hollers, Then tax him some more, Tax him till He's good and sore.

Then tax his coffin, Tax his grave, Tax the sod in Which he's laid.

Put these words upon his tomb, "Taxes drove me to my doom..."

When he's gone, Do not relax, Its time to apply The inheritance tax.

Accounts Receivable Tax

Building Permit Tax

CDL license Tax

Cigarette Tax

Corporate Income Tax

Dog License Tax

Federal Income Tax

Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)

Fishing License Tax

Food License Tax,

Fuel permit tax

Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)

Hunting License Tax

Inheritance Tax

Interest expense

Inventory tax

IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)

Liquor Tax

Luxury Taxes

Marriage License Tax

Medicare Tax

Property Tax

Real Estate Tax

Service charge taxes

Social Security Tax

Road usage taxes

Sales Tax

Recreational Vehicle Tax

School Tax

State Income Tax

State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)

Telephone federal excise tax

Telephone federal universal service fee tax

Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes

Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax

Telephone recurring and non-recurring charges tax

Telephone state and local tax

Telephone usage charge tax

Utility Taxes

Vehicle License Registration Tax

Vehicle Sales Tax

Watercraft registration Tax

Well Permit Tax

Workers Compensation Tax

COMMENTS: Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

What happened?

And I still have to "press 1" for English? What's your opinion on this?

The above was posted after having a last drawn out conversation with a friend... they pointed out many points that I have never really thought about....until now...

[ual777 0]

What happened?

Try Welfare, Medicare, Medicaid, and social security.

Great Society my @ss.

[Kez/JWolf 6]

How else do we pay for WAR and homeland security oh and dont forget cia and fbi...

Kezzie

[PlatyPius 5]

The above is one of my frequent rants....

Want to do something that will REALLY shock you? Add up all of the taxes you pay for a week (or whatever your pay period is), then figure out just how much you ACTUALLY make at your job.

I make $560/week. Deduct $156.80 immediately for fed income, state income, county income, city income, medicaid, and SS taxes. That leaves $403.20. For one week of driving to work, I need a full tank (350 miles/week), or 16 gallons. That's $6.72 using the listed tax of 42 cents (it's actually more than that.) So, that leaves $396.48, and gives us a total of $163.52 in taxes so far. Property taxes, if you average it out to a weekly basis, costs me $19.23/week. ($1000/year).

So, now we're at $182.75 in taxes and $377.25 remaining.

My current electric bill is $95.31 + 5.72 in taxes. Divide all of that by 4, and we come up with $23.83 for electric/week, and $1.43 in taxes. $184.18 - taxes, $351.99 remaining.

License plates for the truck and car are $4.81/week ($250 total/year), so we're at $188.99 in taxes, and $347.18 remaining.

Water/sewer/trash bill - $29.83/month, 28 cents of which is tax. $7.46/week, and .07/week. $189.06 taxes, and $339.72 remaining.

Say $50.00/week for food. No tax on that, unless you consider candy a food. Tax remains the same, and total remaining is now $289.72.

Home phone is $37.69. Home phone taxes and surcharges: Federal excise tax, State tax (6%), Telecommunications Relay services, Federal Universal Service Fee. That's $2.59 in taxes. I have international calling on my home phone. That's another $0.79 in tax. $3.38 in total for taxes. $0.85/week tax, $9.42/week total.

That brings our totals to $189.91 for taxes/week, and I have $280.30 remaining.

Let's say I go crazy and actually buy something for myself that week. (Most likely home improvement stuff like lumber. lol) I'll spend $50.00. That means a sales tax of $3.00. $192.91/taxes, $230.30 remaining.

Truck payment - $100/week. Don't think there's tax on that, as Indiana charges tax on vehicles via the license plates. So, we're at $130.30 remaining, taxes still at $192.91.

House insurance - $17.15/week. Don't know about tax. I'll say no.

$192.91/tax, $113.15 remaining.

We'll say that I smoke, too. 2 packs/day. Cigs are around $3.30/pack here. 55.5 cents of that is state tax. 39 cents of that is federal tax. That's 94.5 cents per pack in tax. So, 14 packs/week = $13.23 in taxes, and $46.20 total.

Taxes = $206.14, $66.95 remaining.

I'm going to stop there. You'll notice I don't have internet in there, my cellphone, my web hosting...... Of the $560 I made that week, $206.14 went out in taxes. That gives us an effective tax rate of 37%. What does that really mean? It means I worked 14.8 hours (or almost 2 full days) of a 40 hour week to pay for war, welfare, food stamps, urban development, schools, roads, silverware and china for the white house, George's salary, and who knows what else. 3 days for me, 2 days for the government.

156 days/year to support myself and my family, 104 days/year to support things I disagree with, and others.

Ok, I need to go get drunk now. How much tax is there on a bottle of Scotch?

[godsavethequeen 0]

How else do we pay for WAR and homeland security oh and dont forget cia and fbi...

Kezzie

You hit the nail on the head.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Taxes always suck. But there are a number of things that need to be financed (stupid wars are not among those things but we pay for them anyways). The roads, for example. Unless you want each and every stretch of road plastered with toll booths you gotta find a way of getting those paid for. Taxes, especially fuel taxes, would seem to be the way to go on that front.

Yes, there are too many taxes. And yes, the tax money one pays may go towards something that one doesn't care to support. I sure don't like paying taxes so that the fcuking yahoos in the White House can realize their ultimate wet-dreams playing war some place. And I don't like paying taxes so people with $2,000.00 bling rims, $200.00 hair-do's and $50.00 nail jobs can pay for their baby's diapers with food stamps.

[PlatyPius 5]

I'd be quite happy with fewer roads. But yes, gasoline tax for roads. Makes sense. What about $500 license plates? That's also for roads. (Plates for my truck since 2000 have cost: $850, $600, $350, $300, $250, $250, and this year will be $200. Plates for my Volvo are $50.)

Why is there a tax on phone service, electric service, and such? Because they can.

Is it any wonder I'm all for a straight tax? The more you spend, the more in taxes you pay. Makes sense to me....

[ChristinaM 0]

Talking about taxation without representation, has it occured to any of the other immigrants that that's EXACTLY what we have as PRs?

I pay my state and federal tax on my wages, my car is registered, I buy things in-state rather than drive down to sales-tax free NH.... But I can't vote for anything! Not even at city level.

Hmm.....

[Ban Hammer 14,293]

one day the press is interviewing an old native american and he points out how the white man screwed everything up. the reporter asked him what he meant. the old indian says "hundreds of years ago there was no taxes, plenty of buffalo, women did all the work, men hunt and fish. white man thought he could improve on that."

[ual777 0]

How else do we pay for WAR and homeland security oh and dont forget cia and fbi...

Kezzie

You hit the nail on the head.

Dont be so ignorant. The US spends only 5% of its annual spending on the military, while social programs consume 15%.

[ChristinaM 0]

How else do we pay for WAR and homeland security oh and dont forget cia and fbi...

Kezzie

You hit the nail on the head.

Dont be so ignorant. The US spends only 5% of its annual spending on the military, while social programs consume 15%.

And as far as I can see, 4% of that would be better spent somewhere else.

[Ban Hammer 14,293]

And as far as I can see, 4% of that would be better spent somewhere else.

that was tried by carter and we had a "hollow military" in the late 70's. the first unit i was in we had more vehicles than people (at least 2 -1 ratio). complain about the military all you want and about what it costs, but that may be our only real deterrent to many countries.

[vartan 0]

Yeah do you want us to be the ones having a toyota tacoma for a tank like the insurgents in iraq?

[ChristinaM 0]

Just a thought:

If the president didn't send the troops to places where they shouldn't be, maybe they would need less funding.

JMHO, which I understand is not everybody's.

[Ban Hammer 14,293]

Just a thought:

If the president didn't send the troops to places where they shouldn't be, maybe they would need less funding.

JMHO, which I understand is not everybody's.

just keep in mind that the payroll won't decrease, active duty troops get paid whether they are sitting at home or in iraq.