Do Mail-Order Brides Make "Good Wives?"

[Dan_RWD 0]

Try looking up comparative divorce stats of the general population vs. women who came here on K visas and factor in the screening out of petitioners for abuse since 2006(?). Even you could probably connect at these least two dots given a GPS and bloodhound to lead you to a conclusion.

What "comparative divorce stats" are you referencing?

As far as I am aware, the ONLY credible stats related to Cross-Cultural marriage are those we commissioned a while back that clearly indicate cross-cultural marriages fail at a lower rate than US domestic marriages.

- Dan

[Captain Oates 911]

What "comparative divorce stats" are you referencing?

As far as I am aware, the ONLY credible stats related to Cross-Cultural marriage are those we commissioned a while back that clearly indicate cross-cultural marriages fail at a lower rate than US domestic marriages.

- Dan

A man and a woman is about as cross cultural as it gets...

I jest

When I was old free and single, I used to shake em off with a phone call and just go to a different pub. It's harder when they have moved countries to be with you and that may be why folks cling on

Dunno. There is a lot to it. Many marriages fail without a divorce or even a separation being the result.

Of course there are fake marriages but I don't reckon Thai brides etc come into that no matter what the underlying psychology is. When it comes to blatant money changing hands fake marriages, I would think Thailand etc would be near the bottom or right at the bottom of that league.

I saw a program on Pakistani men marrying Lithuanian hookers in London and that seemed to be a brisk business and more like the 'for profit' trade.

My Sergeant used to say that the perfect bride would be a man with chubbies on his back - which exhibits some 'thinking outside the box' but is not conducive to producing young people to pay my medicare

[Dan_RWD 0]

A man and a woman is about as cross cultural as it gets...

I jest

When I was old free and single, I used to shake em off with a phone call and just go to a different pub. It's harder when they have moved countries to be with you and that may be why folks cling on

Dunno. There is a lot to it. Many marriages fail without a divorce or even a separation being the result.

Of course there are fake marriages but I don't reckon Thai brides etc come into that no matter what the underlying psychology is. When it comes to blatant money changing hands fake marriages, I would think Thailand etc would be near the bottom or right at the bottom of that league.

I saw a program on Pakistani men marrying Lithuanian hookers in London and that seemed to be a brisk business and more like the 'for profit' trade.

My Sergeant used to say that the perfect bride would be a man with chubbies on his back - which exhibits some 'thinking outside the box' but is not conducive to producing young people to pay my medicare

>>A man and a woman is about as cross cultural as it gets...<<

A VERY good point indeed. When we were initiating the project we really struggled with the language to use to describe the survey/study. We settled on "Survey of Cross-Cultural Marriage and Divorce" as the best descriptor that also did not offend anyone (well - inasmuch as it is possible to not offend anyone these days).

>>Dunno. There is a lot to it. Many marriages fail without a divorce or even a separation being the result.<<

True enough, especially when addressing domestic US unions - though there ARE published statistics for domestic US marriage/divorce that can be used as context for a comparative analysis.

One of the things we discovered through commissioning the project is that surveys are NEVER 100% foolproof. We spent a great deal of time developing the survey instrument with professionals and academics including participation from Georgia State University, DePaul University and Notre Dame. In spite of this significant effort, there are still many aspects of the survey I would do differently if commissioning it once again. Still, it is - to the best of my knowledge - the only such survey ever commissioned (unless you consider the effort of Scholes in preparation for the 1996 report to Congress as being in the same class of study).

Edited January 5, 2011 by Dan_RWD

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Do Mail-Order Brides Make "Good Wives?"

I don't want to read all the posts in this thread. Have we agreed to a definition for MOB yet?

[alienlovechild 75]

What "comparative divorce stats" are you referencing?

As far as I am aware, the ONLY credible stats related to Cross-Cultural marriage are those we commissioned a while back that clearly indicate cross-cultural marriages fail at a lower rate than US domestic marriages.

- Dan

Believe it or not. . .

I know that but another nameless poster on this thread has no idea what we're talking about on a website dedicated to varying degrees of cross-cultural marriage.

[Captain Oates 911]

I don't want to read all the posts in this thread. Have we agreed to a definition for MOB yet?

Through a 'personal introduction agency' is the best definition as Match.com doesn't fit the bill and is the same as the domestic totty hunt really

Even a DIY job has to be signed for - an import - even if it's just the sponsorship page for the USCIS - but sourcing yourself is hardly mail order

Personally I think it's a good idea. I was a mail order stud by some definitions but I ended up paying for everything and I have to be demure - I worked it wrongly somewhere along the line

[Dan_RWD 0]

Believe it or not. . .

I know that but another nameless poster on this thread has no idea what we're talking about on a website dedicated to varying degrees of cross-cultural marriage.

OK. As I am new to posting here (though two of my sites, GoodWife.com and Planet-Love.com, have a long-term affiliation with VisaJourney), I am not aware of the 'subtleties' (for want of a better word) between members here.

- Dan

[Captain Oates 911]

jeez it's like the masons

[Dan_RWD 0]

jeez it's like the masons

Guess that is another 'subtlety' lost on me (have no clue what it meant by the quoted post).

Sorry for not being quick on the uptake with the history/legacy here.

- Dan

Edited January 5, 2011 by Dan_RWD

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Through a 'personal introduction agency' is the best definition as Match.com doesn't fit the bill and is the same as the domestic totty hunt really

Even a DIY job has to be signed for - an import - even if it's just the sponsorship page for the USCIS - but sourcing yourself is hardly mail order

Personally I think it's a good idea. I was a mail order stud by some definitions but I ended up paying for everything and I have to be demure - I worked it wrongly somewhere along the line

So, just ordering out of a catalog doesn't count? I would think almost any dating service, whether that is the intent of the website, or members just take the opportunity to socialize on their own, is just the modern version of the Sears Catalog. I know I tried to avoid the meat factories, but, I admit, I did get trapped by a doe-eyed girl when I let my guard down in a social network.

[alienlovechild 75]

Guess that is another 'subtlety' lost on me (have no clue what it meant by the quoted post).

Sorry for not being quick on the uptake with the history/legacy here.

- Dan

The Masons have secrets between members as secret societies but you don't need to know everyone's personal beef with others or inside jokes here. I mean this isn't the most complex thread as everyone is marrying or married to someone from abroad but there's a long-term schism here if you match up the flags. It's subtle and there's some crossovers but it's here nonetheless.

[Captain Oates 911]

So, just ordering out of a catalog doesn't count? I would think almost any dating service, whether that is the intent of the website, or members just take the opportunity to socialize on their own, is just the modern version of the Sears Catalog. I know I tried to avoid the meat factories, but, I admit, I did get trapped by a doe-eyed girl when I let my guard down in a social network.

Certainly no more than a wine bar (as I remember them)

I think the agencies decide who they are going to palm off on you rather than you doing the shopping

In that respect its like renting a car from budget and they give you what they have, rather than you going round all the places and people who sell cars

To be 'mail order', someone has to go into the warehouse (close) and pick one (or 5) for you, rather than you doing the shopping

Makes no diff in the end of course and they still criticize your driving when you are taking them to work in the snow coz they are too scared to drive themselves. Much of the whole thing is a pretty universal experience and my many tales from 16 years on the razz 7 nights a week would jive with many other people's I am sure.

Now there is a thread to savour

Edited January 5, 2011 by Alan the Red

[thongd4me 69]

I think Male-Order brides are great - nobody can say I have no sense of direction now

[journey4life 0]

This mail order bride thing is kind of what you hear when you met someone overseas and bring them here anyway , thats just from what i hear anyway.

I hear the mail order bride thing does exist between some countrys but any of these types of realationships is a big risk in my opinion. Good luck to the ones that give this a shot !

[Captain Oates 911]

This mail order bride thing is kind of what you hear when you met someone overseas and bring them here anyway , thats just from what i hear anyway.

I hear the mail order bride thing does exist between some countrys but any of these types of realationships is a big risk in my opinion. Good luck to the ones that give this a shot !

Yeah I tried it the old fashioned way and that didn't work either

Doesn't matter the source, they are all on their best behaviour until....until it's too late !

So whether it's a 5 day trip to Thailand or 6 months back home, you are still like to be wrong.

My dad was engaged to my mum for 7 years and she still tore strips off him the minute they were married

A nano second used to be the time between the lights turning green and the guy behind you blowing his horn - now it's the time between morphing from 'a true gentleman' to a 'snotty Brit'

Actually I get 'snotty Brit' more now I have become an American - so I dont know how that works....

Let's face it - we don't know how it works and never will

Edited January 5, 2011 by Alan the Red