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Filed: Country: United Kingdom
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My fiance was just here from England and we were going to get married and file AOS. We called USCIS several times and part of the time they told us this was fine and part of the time they told us this was visa fraud since he entered the country on VWP. Since we couldn't get any straight answer, we were to worried about the visa fraud that now he has gone back to England and we are going to try a K1 fiance visa. Could he have stayed if we had gotten married and filed for the AOS?

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My fiance was just here from England and we were going to get married and file AOS. We called USCIS several times and part of the time they told us this was fine and part of the time they told us this was visa fraud since he entered the country on VWP. Since we couldn't get any straight answer, we were to worried about the visa fraud that now he has gone back to England and we are going to try a K1 fiance visa. Could he have stayed if we had gotten married and filed for the AOS?

You done the safe and prudent thing. Many AOS from VWP are either getting outright denied or put on indefinite hold these days. A year ago it would have been a viable choice. Today, you are doing the right thing in filing for K1.

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4-26-13------Eligible to file for ROC

6-17-13------Sent off I-751 Package

6-19-13------VSC Received our package. Signed for by K. Fitzgerald

6-24-13------Received NOA in the mail, dated 6-20-13

6-24-13------Check Cashed

7-05-13------Received Biometrics Appointment letter in the mail for 7-18-13

7-18-13------Biometrics done

8-20-13------Case Transferred to CSC for further processing

8-24-13------Transfer notice arrived in the mail today

10-21-13----ROC Approved!

10-25-13----Received approval letter in the mail

10-28-13----Production of 10 Yr Green Card ordered

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Spain
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Actually, it's VWP OVERSTAYS that are being denied or put on hold (and not even all of those -- my wife just adjusted status from VWP with a short overstay). I haven't heard of VWP's being denied adjusting status within the 90 days of authorized stay.

AJ

Our Timeline (AOS from VWP with short overstay):

Day 00: 19 Sep 2010 AOS package (I-485, I-130, I-131, I-765) sent to Chicago Lockbox

Day 18: 07 Oct 2010 Biometrics appointment letter received for 29 Oct 2010 (dated 01 Oct 2010)

Day 19: 08 Oct 2010 Walk-in biometrics (took about 10 minutes)

Day 47: 05 Nov 2010 Received letter (dated 01 Nov 2010) for Interview on 07 Dec 2010

Day 68: 26 Nov 2010 I-131 TOUCHED: AP approved

Day 73: 01 Dec 2010 I-765 TOUCHED: EAD approved

Day 76: 04 Dec 2010 AP received

Day 79: 07 Dec 2010 Interview at 1 p.m. (took maybe 15 minutes): RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL!

Day 82: 10 Dec 2010 EAD received (dated 01 Dec 2010)

Day 83: 11 Dec 2010 "WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" letter received (dated 07 Dec 2010)

Day 90: 18 Dec 2010 GREEN CARD IN HAND! (dated 07 Dec 2010)


Day 000: 27 Nov 2012 ROC package (I-751) sent to California Service Center

Day 005: 03 Dec 2012 Received hard copy of NOA (dated 28 Nov 2012)

Day 244: 29 Jul 2013 Biometrics appointment letter received for 07 Aug 2013 (dated 27 Jul 2013)

Day 247: 01 Aug 2013 Walk-in biometrics (took about 25 minutes)

Day 308: 01 Oct 2013 Received approval notice for ROC (dated 24 Sep 2013)

Day 317: 10 Oct 2013 GREEN CARD IN HAND!

 

Day 000: 16 Sep 2017 N-400 filed online

Day 007: 23 Sep 2017 Biometrics appointment scheduled for 12 Oct 2017

Day 024: 10 Oct 2017 Walk-in biometrics (took about 10 minutes)

Day 059: 14 Nov 2017 Received notice that Interview scheduled for 19 Dec 2017

Day 066: 20 Nov 2017 Received hard copy of Interview notice (dated 14 Nov 2017)

Day 094: 19 Dec 2017 INTERVIEW (PASSED!)

Day 145:  08 Feb 2018 OATH CEREMONY

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Filed: Country: United Kingdom
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Caeremonarius - was there any question of her entering the US with the intent to stay and marry you? That was what they were telling us . . . that if he entered the country with any intent to stay it would be visa fraud. We've already bought a house and a vehicle so that kind makes it look like he meant to stay.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Spain
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No questions about intentions during our interview. My then-fiancee arrived in May for a month-long visit, then we decided to get married in July. It was a very spur-of-the-moment thing.

If you didn't have intent to get married on entry, then it's pretty much a non-issue. If you did plan to get married when he came, then that would be visa fraud, but I think that it's been mentioned here that intent to marry is insufficient to deny AOS. However, material misrepresentation to an IO is grounds for denial, and even a ban.

AJ

Our Timeline (AOS from VWP with short overstay):

Day 00: 19 Sep 2010 AOS package (I-485, I-130, I-131, I-765) sent to Chicago Lockbox

Day 18: 07 Oct 2010 Biometrics appointment letter received for 29 Oct 2010 (dated 01 Oct 2010)

Day 19: 08 Oct 2010 Walk-in biometrics (took about 10 minutes)

Day 47: 05 Nov 2010 Received letter (dated 01 Nov 2010) for Interview on 07 Dec 2010

Day 68: 26 Nov 2010 I-131 TOUCHED: AP approved

Day 73: 01 Dec 2010 I-765 TOUCHED: EAD approved

Day 76: 04 Dec 2010 AP received

Day 79: 07 Dec 2010 Interview at 1 p.m. (took maybe 15 minutes): RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL!

Day 82: 10 Dec 2010 EAD received (dated 01 Dec 2010)

Day 83: 11 Dec 2010 "WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" letter received (dated 07 Dec 2010)

Day 90: 18 Dec 2010 GREEN CARD IN HAND! (dated 07 Dec 2010)


Day 000: 27 Nov 2012 ROC package (I-751) sent to California Service Center

Day 005: 03 Dec 2012 Received hard copy of NOA (dated 28 Nov 2012)

Day 244: 29 Jul 2013 Biometrics appointment letter received for 07 Aug 2013 (dated 27 Jul 2013)

Day 247: 01 Aug 2013 Walk-in biometrics (took about 25 minutes)

Day 308: 01 Oct 2013 Received approval notice for ROC (dated 24 Sep 2013)

Day 317: 10 Oct 2013 GREEN CARD IN HAND!

 

Day 000: 16 Sep 2017 N-400 filed online

Day 007: 23 Sep 2017 Biometrics appointment scheduled for 12 Oct 2017

Day 024: 10 Oct 2017 Walk-in biometrics (took about 10 minutes)

Day 059: 14 Nov 2017 Received notice that Interview scheduled for 19 Dec 2017

Day 066: 20 Nov 2017 Received hard copy of Interview notice (dated 14 Nov 2017)

Day 094: 19 Dec 2017 INTERVIEW (PASSED!)

Day 145:  08 Feb 2018 OATH CEREMONY

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No questions about intentions during our interview. My then-fiancee arrived in May for a month-long visit, then we decided to get married in July. It was a very spur-of-the-moment thing.

If you didn't have intent to get married on entry, then it's pretty much a non-issue. If you did plan to get married when he came, then that would be visa fraud, but I think that it's been mentioned here that intent to marry is insufficient to deny AOS. However, material misrepresentation to an IO is grounds for denial, and even a ban.

AJ

Whether or not you intend to marry is irrelevant. It's perfectly legal to enter the US with a visitor's visa or VWP with the intent to marry. What's not legal is entering with a non-immigrant entry pass with intention of immigrating. If you enter with a visitor's visa or VWP with the intention of adjusting status and becoming an immigrant then you are in violation of the law.

12/15/2009 - K1 Visa Interview - APPROVED!

12/29/2009 - Married in Oakland, CA!

08/18/2010 - AOS Interview - APPROVED!

05/01/2013 - Removal of Conditions - APPROVED!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Spain
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Whether or not you intend to marry is irrelevant. It's perfectly legal to enter the US with a visitor's visa or VWP with the intent to marry. What's not legal is entering with a non-immigrant entry pass with intention of immigrating. If you enter with a visitor's visa or VWP with the intention of adjusting status and becoming an immigrant then you are in violation of the law.

This is correct. Thanks for the clarification (As soon as I posted this, I realized I that I should have made the distinction about adjusting status vs. just getting married. :blush: I figured you, Jim, or someone else would clarify!)

AJ

Our Timeline (AOS from VWP with short overstay):

Day 00: 19 Sep 2010 AOS package (I-485, I-130, I-131, I-765) sent to Chicago Lockbox

Day 18: 07 Oct 2010 Biometrics appointment letter received for 29 Oct 2010 (dated 01 Oct 2010)

Day 19: 08 Oct 2010 Walk-in biometrics (took about 10 minutes)

Day 47: 05 Nov 2010 Received letter (dated 01 Nov 2010) for Interview on 07 Dec 2010

Day 68: 26 Nov 2010 I-131 TOUCHED: AP approved

Day 73: 01 Dec 2010 I-765 TOUCHED: EAD approved

Day 76: 04 Dec 2010 AP received

Day 79: 07 Dec 2010 Interview at 1 p.m. (took maybe 15 minutes): RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL!

Day 82: 10 Dec 2010 EAD received (dated 01 Dec 2010)

Day 83: 11 Dec 2010 "WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" letter received (dated 07 Dec 2010)

Day 90: 18 Dec 2010 GREEN CARD IN HAND! (dated 07 Dec 2010)


Day 000: 27 Nov 2012 ROC package (I-751) sent to California Service Center

Day 005: 03 Dec 2012 Received hard copy of NOA (dated 28 Nov 2012)

Day 244: 29 Jul 2013 Biometrics appointment letter received for 07 Aug 2013 (dated 27 Jul 2013)

Day 247: 01 Aug 2013 Walk-in biometrics (took about 25 minutes)

Day 308: 01 Oct 2013 Received approval notice for ROC (dated 24 Sep 2013)

Day 317: 10 Oct 2013 GREEN CARD IN HAND!

 

Day 000: 16 Sep 2017 N-400 filed online

Day 007: 23 Sep 2017 Biometrics appointment scheduled for 12 Oct 2017

Day 024: 10 Oct 2017 Walk-in biometrics (took about 10 minutes)

Day 059: 14 Nov 2017 Received notice that Interview scheduled for 19 Dec 2017

Day 066: 20 Nov 2017 Received hard copy of Interview notice (dated 14 Nov 2017)

Day 094: 19 Dec 2017 INTERVIEW (PASSED!)

Day 145:  08 Feb 2018 OATH CEREMONY

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Filed: Country: United Kingdom
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Thanks everyone . . . so we've done the right thing than by having him go back to England while we file the K1. I just wish it didn't take so long and we didn't have to be apart throughout the process. I know I'm not the only on this forum apart from their loved one, but it's so hard!

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Given that it's done and dusted and he's back in the UK, it doesn't really matter if it was the right decision or not. Personally I wouldn't choose to try to AOS on VWP, and I appreciate it when other people don't take that route. Now I did choose to marry on VWP and do a CR1, but we were very lucky in our timing and so that was quicker/easier/cheaper than a K1. Generally though people say K1 is faster, so I wouldn't even regret the decision not to marry. Anyways, that's history lol.

Now that he is back in the UK, apply for the K1 asap. Remember he can still visit, so hopefully you will manage to get to see each other at least a little bit whilst you are waiting for the visa.

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I would have gotten married, then have him return as your husband to the U.K. This way he would have entered the US with an CR-1 visa as a lawful permanent resident (Green Card holder) and you wouldn't have to go through the dreaded AOS. Cheaper too!

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