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High-speed rail has become part of America's never-ending culture war.

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A central element—perhaps the central element—of America's culture is a deep-seated resentment of educated elites—e.g., technocrats—and a distrust of experts and expertise. You can make a lot of money and win a lot of votes railing against "the type of people" who want high-speed rail.

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Critics of HSR are dramatically overstating what has been proposed. Although anti-HSR crusaders like to pretend that President Barack Obama and liberals in Congress are proposing a national high-speed rail system like that of Japan or (the horror!) France, that's not what's actually on the table. Instead, most of the "high-speed rail" money allocated by the Democrats' stimulus bill was aimed at upgrading almost prehistoric rail lines so that they can run at speeds of 70 or 80 mph—far below anyone's idea of high-speed.

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Aiming low confirms critics' worst fears about high-speed rail: that it is an expensive boondoggle that supporters are overselling. I can understand why Ohio voters might not be crazy about the government spending billions to upgrade rail lines they barely use anyway. On the other hand, everyone instinctively understands that ambitious projects like Los Angeles-San Francisco HSR are bound to be expensive.

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America is forecast to grow by over 100 million people in the next few decades. New infrastructure will be built. But among the most annoying things about the discussion is the extent to which HSR is held to an entirely different standard than other investments.

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In ten years, when politicians are yelling about how Congress is trying to take away your cars and make you ride Amtrak, we'll see how many miles of true high-speed rail exist in America. I'm going to guess "not many."

http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulliver/2010/12/high-speed_rail_and_culture_war?fsrc=scn/fb/wl/bl/highspeedrail

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Trains are so 1800's.
How about you go to Tokyo and say that in a very crowded area?

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I whine because I don't think we need another govt. program.

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Because you wouldn't use the rail system. Now what if they had high speed public transport to the nude bars and gun shops?

If it was funded by customers of the nude bars and gun shops, sweet. If EVERYONE had to pay for it, not so much.

See, that's the whole problem with public trans. Right now, I'm paying for people to ride the bus. Why? Because they can't afford to purchase a car so I have to help them find a ride. Since they're not smart enough to work near their home they've now convinced someone to feel sorry enough for them to spend my tax dollars on their transportation. Somewhere along the way that became my responsibility. Yours too.

Instead of them living within their means and/or taking it upon themselves to improve their personal situation, they've made it a burden upon all of us.

High-speed rail is no different. The government simply cannot allow capitalism to take it's course and the profitable businesses to stay in business and the losers to die off. They have to make it "fair and equal" for everyone. Oh, and by the way, thanks for paying for everyone's fare (sic) share.

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Ensure your beneficiary makes and brings with them to the States a copy of the DS-3025 (vaccination form)

If the government is going to force me to exercise my "right" to health care, then they better start requiring people to exercise their Right to Bear Arms. - "Where's my public option rifle?"

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If it was funded by customers of the nude bars and gun shops, sweet. If EVERYONE had to pay for it, not so much.

See, that's the whole problem with public trans. Right now, I'm paying for people to ride the bus. Why? Because they can't afford to purchase a car so I have to help them find a ride. Since they're not smart enough to work near their home they've now convinced someone to feel sorry enough for them to spend my tax dollars on their transportation. Somewhere along the way that became my responsibility. Yours too.

Instead of them living within their means and/or taking it upon themselves to improve their personal situation, they've made it a burden upon all of us.

High-speed rail is no different. The government simply cannot allow capitalism to take it's course and the profitable businesses to stay in business and the losers to die off. They have to make it "fair and equal" for everyone. Oh, and by the way, thanks for paying for everyone's fare (sic) share.

There is a social cost to living in a metropolitan area slim. To live there, you are consenting to a social contract. If you don't like it, you can move out to an unincorporated county or city and not have to pay taxes.

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There is a social cost to living in a metropolitan area slim. To live there, you are consenting to a social contract. If you don't like it, you can move out to an unincorporated county or city and not have to pay taxes.

You're right. I should just move away from the problems. Kind of like moving away from crime and zombies.

That'll fix it!

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:unsure:

I can not afford public transportation (it is outrageously expensive), but I can afford keeping a car.

If all those "losers" somehow gotten their (cheap and old) cars, what do you think would happen to your morning commute? Traffic sucks as it is. So in a way, you are paying for them to NOT to be on the road, which is good for YOU, the car driver.

Right now, I'm paying for people to ride the bus. Why? Because they can't afford to purchase a car so I have to help them find a ride.

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HSR will be run by the unions and the gov't... that enough right there, but it will also be a system that will need constant taxpayer support. it is also a closed system, unlike the airlines, you have many companies to choose from, but with HSR, you have no options, the airlines and one's own automobile beat it hands down.

gov't waste to the Nth degree.



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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Russia
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If all those "losers" somehow gotten their (cheap and old) cars, what do you think would happen to your morning commute?

I don't commute through traffic. I refuse to.

HSR will be run by the unions and the gov't... that enough right there, but it will also be a system that will need constant taxpayer support. it is also a closed system, unlike the airlines, you have many companies to choose from, but with HSR, you have no options, the airlines and one's own automobile beat it hands down.

gov't waste to the Nth degree.

The airlines all belong to the govt. too. Remember 9/11 when the govt. "took control of" the airlines for a few months?

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Ensure your beneficiary makes and brings with them to the States a copy of the DS-3025 (vaccination form)

If the government is going to force me to exercise my "right" to health care, then they better start requiring people to exercise their Right to Bear Arms. - "Where's my public option rifle?"

 

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