Mexicans seething over Border Patrol killing of teen

[Heracles 417]

Not noticeably, or considerably.

Ever heard of MS13? Care to know who makes up 50% of America's gangs.

Cheryl Ceran, 47, and two of her children, 15-year-old Ian and 7-year-old Julianna were killed on Christmas Eve by drunk driving illegal alien Carlos Rodolfo Prieto, 24, who ran a red light and slammed into their car. Also injured in the crash were Cheryl Ceran's husband, Gary Ceran, 45, their daughter, Clarissa, 19, and a son, Caleb, 12. Prieto had at least two other drunken driving arrests and did not have a license.

Kelly Bergen, 25, a teacher, was crushed between two potato trucks, an accident caused by an illegal alien driving without a license or insurance.

Deputy Loren Lilly, an 18 year veteran of the Cobb County, GA, police department was killed Christmas Eve morning on his way to work when an illegal alien swerved into his lane. The driver, Joel Camacho Perea, faces charges of hit and run, failure to maintain lane and driving without a license.

Marine Corporal Brian Mathews, 21, and his girlfriend Jennifer Bower, 24, were killed by a drunk illegal alien Eduardo Raul Morales-Soriano who slammed into their car when it was stopped at a traffic light. Corporal Mathews was on leave, after just returning from duty in Iraq. Morales-Soriano had a blood-alcohol level that was four times the legal limit.

20 year old Natalie Housand was killed when illegal alien Jesus Garcia Lopez hit her car while going 100 MPH, driving drunk. Amazingly, after the head-on collision, Lopez fled the scene.

Donna and Sean Wilson of Juliet Tennessee, were killed by illegal alien Gustavo Reyes Garcia who had been, arrested 14 times in the previous five years prior to when he ran into and killed them, again driving while intoxicated. Garcia had previously been arrested 5 times on DUIs.

Tricia Ann Taylor, 17, lost both her legs above the knees when she was pinned against a wall by a drunken illegal alien with seventeen prior violations who hit her while drag racing.

Ryan Ostendorf, a 28 year old paramedic, who was also a Kansas University student and who dreamed of becoming a doctor, was killed by illegal alien Victor Anzua-Torresa who had ignored an order to receive treatment after his previous drunken-driving conviction. Anzua-Torresa had also been previously deported in 2000 and been arrested for several other offenses, including possession of drug paraphernalia.

Felix Leon - 5-year-old Felix Leon was killed in a hit and run accident by illegal alien Carlos Jaramillo.

James F. Rogers Jr., 18, of North Jackson, TN was killed by Luis Oscar Garcia, a Mexican who had been living in the U.S. without a green card for three years. Garcia ran a red light. In addition to the vehicular homicide and DUI charges, Garcia faces counts of driving without a license, registration or proof of insurance. When police did a check on his license plate, it did not come back under his name.

Joshua Morrow, 4, and his uncle, Ronald Bishop were killed by an illegal alien who left the scene of the accident.

Christopher Shackleford, 19, Julieanne Pascoe, 18, and Kelli Bourgeois, 18, were all killed in Marietta, Georgia, by an illegal alien drunk driver. He did not have a valid driver's license or insurance but did have a blood alcohol level at twice the legal limit.

Brandon Haley, 31, was killed while riding his bicycle in a hit and run by illegal alien Lazardo Lobaton.

Marti Family - The Marti family, pictured here during a happy moment that no longer exists. Sean, just 24 years old, and his daughter Sage, 5 months old, were killed by a drunk illegal alien who was driving the wrong way on Highway 84 in Idaho. Natalie Marti was in a coma for two weeks after the head-on crash, spent two months in the hospital, and has suffered brain damage from a traumatic head wound.

Chicago Police Officer Michael Gordon lost his life to a drunken illegal alien driver. Officer Gordon was in the driver's seat of his squad car when it was struck by Luis Calle, a Guatemalan, whose blood alcohol level was 0.177, twice the legal limit.

Helen Hughes, 22, Jennifer Carter, 18, and Hughes' stepbrother, 16-year-old Ben Leonard were all killed by an illegal alien, who allegedly was driving drunk, and already had a long record of crime in the United States.

Amy Kortlang - 22-year-old Amy Kortlang was killed by an illegal alien driving without a license and while drunk. The illegal alien driver had been previously deported, barely six months prior to causing the accident.

Oakland Police Officer Will Seuis was killed on his ride home by an illegal alien. A sixteen-year veteran of the Police Department, Officer Seuis was remembered at his funeral as a hard-working cop who had received 33 letters of appreciation from citizens, including one from a motorist he had ticketed. The illegal alien had a long history of traffic convictions.

Peggy Keller, dean of distance education at Yakima Valley Community College, was killed by a twice deported illegal alien who was driving under the influence of methamphetamines.

Edited June 10, 2010 by Booyah!

[HappyKnappy 30]

I've seen plenty making headlines over the years.

Hit and Runs by illegal aliens (who get caught after the fact)

Illegal aliens running into school buses after running stop signs

Illegal aliens comitting armed robbery

Illegal aliens sexually abusing children

Illegal aliens sexually assaulting/raping women.

Illegal aliens murdering cops

Illegal aliens murdering citizens

I've seen all of those as headlines in the past 3 years alone, many of the latter on several occasions...

I shouldn't have to see that in the headlines by anyone mind you, but ESPECIALLY not by those who have violated the sovereignty of this nation. That's the point.

Then you should stop reading The Onion or The National Enquirer...

You are safe, don't worry, you or one of yours is not a citizen yet. Or, you may be a candidate for a new headline, you should feel honored...

I do however, understand the concept of sovereignty of a Nation and I respect it as much as you. My first sentence was meant not as an insult, but as a reality check for you. No one is going to publish such headlines. I can picture it now "The illegals are coming, lock your doors!!!" That is not right people...

[Heracles 417]

Not noticeably, or considerably.

FBIS's most wanted Murders. http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/fugitives/vc/murders/vc_murders.htm

Ignoring the "minor crime" such as ID theft and property crimes being committed by illegal aliens, here is a summary on some of the collateral damage reaped in crimes as a result of tolerating illegal aliens in the USA:

* In Los Angeles, 95% of some 1,500 outstanding warrants for homicides are for illegal aliens. About 67% of the 17,000 outstanding fugitive felony warrants are for illegal aliens.

* There are currently over 400,000 unaccounted for illegal alien criminals with outstanding deportation orders. At least one fourth of these are hard core criminals.

* 80,000 to 100,000 illegal aliens who have been convicted of serious crimes are walking the streets. Based on studies they will commit an average of 13 serious crimes per perpetrator.

* Illegal aliens are involved in criminal activities at a rate that is 2-5 times their representative proportion of the population.

* In 1980, our Federal and state facilities held fewer than 9,000 criminal aliens but at the end of 2003, approximately 267,000 illegal aliens were incarcerated in U.S. correctional facilities at a cost of about $6.8 billion per year.

* At least 4.5 million pounds of cocaine with a street value of at least $72 billion is smuggled across the southern border every year. ..

* 56% of illegal aliens charged with a reentry offense had previously been convicted on at least 5 prior occasions.

* Illegal aliens charged with unlawful reentry had the most extensive criminal histories. 90% had been previously arrested. Of those with a prior arrest, 50% had been arrested for violent or drug-related felonies.

* Illegal aliens commit between 700,000 to 1,289,000 or more crimes per year.

* Illegal aliens commit at least 2,158 murders each year – a number that represents three times greater participation than their proportion of the population.

* Illegal alien sexual predators commit an estimated 130,909 sexual crimes each year.

* There may be as many as 240,000 illegal alien sex offenders circulating throughout America. Based on studies, they will commit an average of 8 sex crimes per perpetrator before being caught.

* Nearly 63% of illegal alien sex offenders had been deported on another offense prior to committing the sex crime.

* Only 2% of the illegal alien sex offenders in one study had no history of criminal behavior, beyond crossing the border illegally.

* In Operation Predator, ICE arrested and deported 6,085 illegal alien pedophiles. Some studies suggest each pedophile molests average of 148 children. If so, that could be as many as 900,580 victims.

* Nobody knows how big the Sex Slave problem is but it is enormous.

* The very brutal MS-13 gang has over 15,000 members and associates in at least 115 different cliques in 33 states.

* The overall financial impact of illegal alien crimes is estimated at between $14.4 and $81 billion or more per year. Factor in the crime as a result of the cocaine and other drugs being smuggled in and the number may reach $150 billion per year.

http://www.usillegalaliens.com/impacts_of_illegal_immigration_crime_summary.html

[HappyKnappy 30]

Ever heard of MS13? Care to know who makes up 50% of America's gangs.

Cheryl Ceran, 47, and two of her children, 15-year-old Ian and 7-year-old Julianna were killed on Christmas Eve by drunk driving illegal alien Carlos Rodolfo Prieto, 24, who ran a red light and slammed into their car. Also injured in the crash were Cheryl Ceran's husband, Gary Ceran, 45, their daughter, Clarissa, 19, and a son, Caleb, 12. Prieto had at least two other drunken driving arrests and did not have a license.

Kelly Bergen, 25, a teacher, was crushed between two potato trucks, an accident caused by an illegal alien driving without a license or insurance.

Deputy Loren Lilly, an 18 year veteran of the Cobb County, GA, police department was killed Christmas Eve morning on his way to work when an illegal alien swerved into his lane. The driver, Joel Camacho Perea, faces charges of hit and run, failure to maintain lane and driving without a license.

Marine Corporal Brian Mathews, 21, and his girlfriend Jennifer Bower, 24, were killed by a drunk illegal alien Eduardo Raul Morales-Soriano who slammed into their car when it was stopped at a traffic light. Corporal Mathews was on leave, after just returning from duty in Iraq. Morales-Soriano had a blood-alcohol level that was four times the legal limit.

20 year old Natalie Housand was killed when illegal alien Jesus Garcia Lopez hit her car while going 100 MPH, driving drunk. Amazingly, after the head-on collision, Lopez fled the scene.

Donna and Sean Wilson of Juliet Tennessee, were killed by illegal alien Gustavo Reyes Garcia who had been, arrested 14 times in the previous five years prior to when he ran into and killed them, again driving while intoxicated. Garcia had previously been arrested 5 times on DUIs.

Tricia Ann Taylor, 17, lost both her legs above the knees when she was pinned against a wall by a drunken illegal alien with seventeen prior violations who hit her while drag racing.

Ryan Ostendorf, a 28 year old paramedic, who was also a Kansas University student and who dreamed of becoming a doctor, was killed by illegal alien Victor Anzua-Torresa who had ignored an order to receive treatment after his previous drunken-driving conviction. Anzua-Torresa had also been previously deported in 2000 and been arrested for several other offenses, including possession of drug paraphernalia.

Felix Leon

5-year-old Felix Leon was killed in a hit and run accident by illegal alien Carlos Jaramillo.

James F. Rogers Jr., 18, of North Jackson, TN was killed by Luis Oscar Garcia, a Mexican who had been living in the U.S. without a green card for three years. Garcia ran a red light. In addition to the vehicular homicide and DUI charges, Garcia faces counts of driving without a license, registration or proof of insurance. When police did a check on his license plate, it did not come back under his name.

Joshua Morrow, 4, and his uncle, Ronald Bishop were killed by an illegal alien who left the scene of the accident.

Christopher Shackleford, 19, Julieanne Pascoe, 18, and Kelli Bourgeois, 18, were all killed in Marietta, Georgia, by an illegal alien drunk driver. He did not have a valid driver's license or insurance but did have a blood alcohol level at twice the legal limit.

Brandon Haley, 31, was killed while riding his bicycle in a hit and run by illegal alien Lazardo Lobaton.

Marti Family

The Marti family, pictured here during a happy moment that no longer exists. Sean, just 24 years old, and his daughter Sage, 5 months old, were killed by a drunk illegal alien who was driving the wrong way on Highway 84 in Idaho. Natalie Marti was in a coma for two weeks after the head-on crash, spent two months in the hospital, and has suffered brain damage from a traumatic head wound.

Chicago Police Officer Michael Gordon lost his life to a drunken illegal alien driver. Officer Gordon was in the driver's seat of his squad car when it was struck by Luis Calle, a Guatemalan, whose blood alcohol level was 0.177, twice the legal limit.

Helen Hughes, 22, Jennifer Carter, 18, and Hughes' stepbrother, 16-year-old Ben Leonard were all killed by an illegal alien, who allegedly was driving drunk, and already had a long record of crime in the United States.

Amy Kortlang

22-year-old Amy Kortlang was killed by an illegal alien driving without a license and while drunk. The illegal alien driver had been previously deported, barely six months prior to causing the accident.

Oakland Police Officer Will Seuis was killed on his ride home by an illegal alien. A sixteen-year veteran of the Police Department, Officer Seuis was remembered at his funeral as a hard-working cop who had received 33 letters of appreciation from citizens, including one from a motorist he had ticketed. The illegal alien had a long history of traffic convictions.

Peggy Keller, dean of distance education at Yakima Valley Community College, was killed by a twice deported illegal alien who was driving under the influence of methamphetamines.

How many pages will it take to bring up the crimes from legal residents... I wonder. For the record, MS13 is not from Mexico. You should know that. My beef with the VJ Fourth Reich is that you are generalizing Mexicans, and to help yourselves you post stuff including how a Guatemalan did that, or a guy from El Salvador did this. Get it together.

Edited June 10, 2010 by HappyKnappy

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Then you should stop reading The Onion or The National Enquirer...

You are safe, don't worry, you or one of yours is not a citizen yet. Or, you may be a candidate for a new headline, you should feel honored...

I do however, understand the concept of sovereignty of a Nation and I respect it as much as you. My first sentence was meant not as an insult, but as a reality check for you. No one is going to publish such headlines. I can picture it now "The illegals are coming, lock your doors!!!" That is not right people...

Actually those were headlines.

Some said "undocumented immigrants' some said "Illegal aliens" depending on how politically correct the publication wanted to be. These have all been newspaper/media stories time and time again...

[Ban Hammer 14,606]

I have had my house burgled 3 time in the UK

On two occasions I was in bed and came downstairs and confronted them, and they ran

It's no big deal

The chances of them being armed is tiny

Try that in the US and you would end up like Sharon Tate

or just maybe british burglers are wussies.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Ever heard of MS13? Care to know who makes up 50% of America's gangs.

Cheryl Ceran, 47, and two of her children, 15-year-old Ian and 7-year-old Julianna were killed on Christmas Eve by drunk driving illegal alien Carlos Rodolfo Prieto, 24, who ran a red light and slammed into their car. Also injured in the crash were Cheryl Ceran's husband, Gary Ceran, 45, their daughter, Clarissa, 19, and a son, Caleb, 12. Prieto had at least two other drunken driving arrests and did not have a license.

Kelly Bergen, 25, a teacher, was crushed between two potato trucks, an accident caused by an illegal alien driving without a license or insurance.

Deputy Loren Lilly, an 18 year veteran of the Cobb County, GA, police department was killed Christmas Eve morning on his way to work when an illegal alien swerved into his lane. The driver, Joel Camacho Perea, faces charges of hit and run, failure to maintain lane and driving without a license.

Marine Corporal Brian Mathews, 21, and his girlfriend Jennifer Bower, 24, were killed by a drunk illegal alien Eduardo Raul Morales-Soriano who slammed into their car when it was stopped at a traffic light. Corporal Mathews was on leave, after just returning from duty in Iraq. Morales-Soriano had a blood-alcohol level that was four times the legal limit.

20 year old Natalie Housand was killed when illegal alien Jesus Garcia Lopez hit her car while going 100 MPH, driving drunk. Amazingly, after the head-on collision, Lopez fled the scene.

Donna and Sean Wilson of Juliet Tennessee, were killed by illegal alien Gustavo Reyes Garcia who had been, arrested 14 times in the previous five years prior to when he ran into and killed them, again driving while intoxicated. Garcia had previously been arrested 5 times on DUIs.

Tricia Ann Taylor, 17, lost both her legs above the knees when she was pinned against a wall by a drunken illegal alien with seventeen prior violations who hit her while drag racing.

Ryan Ostendorf, a 28 year old paramedic, who was also a Kansas University student and who dreamed of becoming a doctor, was killed by illegal alien Victor Anzua-Torresa who had ignored an order to receive treatment after his previous drunken-driving conviction. Anzua-Torresa had also been previously deported in 2000 and been arrested for several other offenses, including possession of drug paraphernalia.

Felix Leon - 5-year-old Felix Leon was killed in a hit and run accident by illegal alien Carlos Jaramillo.

James F. Rogers Jr., 18, of North Jackson, TN was killed by Luis Oscar Garcia, a Mexican who had been living in the U.S. without a green card for three years. Garcia ran a red light. In addition to the vehicular homicide and DUI charges, Garcia faces counts of driving without a license, registration or proof of insurance. When police did a check on his license plate, it did not come back under his name.

Joshua Morrow, 4, and his uncle, Ronald Bishop were killed by an illegal alien who left the scene of the accident.

Christopher Shackleford, 19, Julieanne Pascoe, 18, and Kelli Bourgeois, 18, were all killed in Marietta, Georgia, by an illegal alien drunk driver. He did not have a valid driver's license or insurance but did have a blood alcohol level at twice the legal limit.

Brandon Haley, 31, was killed while riding his bicycle in a hit and run by illegal alien Lazardo Lobaton.

Marti Family - The Marti family, pictured here during a happy moment that no longer exists. Sean, just 24 years old, and his daughter Sage, 5 months old, were killed by a drunk illegal alien who was driving the wrong way on Highway 84 in Idaho. Natalie Marti was in a coma for two weeks after the head-on crash, spent two months in the hospital, and has suffered brain damage from a traumatic head wound.

Chicago Police Officer Michael Gordon lost his life to a drunken illegal alien driver. Officer Gordon was in the driver's seat of his squad car when it was struck by Luis Calle, a Guatemalan, whose blood alcohol level was 0.177, twice the legal limit.

Helen Hughes, 22, Jennifer Carter, 18, and Hughes' stepbrother, 16-year-old Ben Leonard were all killed by an illegal alien, who allegedly was driving drunk, and already had a long record of crime in the United States.

Amy Kortlang - 22-year-old Amy Kortlang was killed by an illegal alien driving without a license and while drunk. The illegal alien driver had been previously deported, barely six months prior to causing the accident.

Oakland Police Officer Will Seuis was killed on his ride home by an illegal alien. A sixteen-year veteran of the Police Department, Officer Seuis was remembered at his funeral as a hard-working cop who had received 33 letters of appreciation from citizens, including one from a motorist he had ticketed. The illegal alien had a long history of traffic convictions.

Peggy Keller, dean of distance education at Yakima Valley Community College, was killed by a twice deported illegal alien who was driving under the influence of methamphetamines.

MS13? Wasn't that the group you were going to go all Death Wish on with your sawed off shotgun?

[Heracles 417]

Actually those were headlines.

Some said "undocumented immigrants' some said "Illegal aliens" depending on how politically correct the publication wanted to be. These have all been newspaper/media stories time and time again...

The onion made up all of these faces too. True story, just as Ronald McDonald on here:

[Captain Oates 911]

How many pages will it take to bring up the crimes from legal residents... I wonder.

I am GC and I got a speeding ticket : 70 in a 60 two years ago. I was driving a rental car with no cruise control 100 miles from the nearest town when we came here for interview - and a plane got me.

They thought they were better employed doing that than 'protecting our sovereign nation' from brown guys.

I kept my hands on the wheel and called him 'sir' so I wouldn't be tazered or shot.

Abusing the hospitality of my host nation so I deserved it. An Alien committing a crime should be shot at the side of the road right ? I was lucky

Edited June 10, 2010 by saywhat

[Heracles 417]

MS13? Wasn't that the group you were going to go all Death Wish on with your sawed off shotgun?

I am not the one who would defends such a gang yet would cry murder at anyone going after them. Let me guess, never said that right?

They thought they were better employed doing that than 'protecting our sovereign nation' from brown guys.

You mean like this?

An illegal alien MS-13 gangbanger is charged with the murder of a 14-year-old honor student after randomly firing a gun into a crowded county bus.

Maryland – Tai Lam

[Obama 2012 1,714]

How many pages will it take to bring up the crimes from legal residents... I wonder. For the record, MS13 is not from Mexico. You should know that. My beef with the VJ Fourth Reich is that you are generalizing Mexicans, and to help yourselves you post stuff including how a Guatemalan did that, or a guy from El Salvador did this. Get it together.

Its origins are in SoCal, but they are 99% Latino, mostly central American Latinos actually. With a membership somewhere between 50,000 and 100,000 and the ####### that they do.. I hardly call it small in nature or anything to scoff at. Especially when a large percentage of their membership is in the nation illegally.

[Heracles 417]

How about this?

Illegal aliens execute three DSU college students and seriously wound fourth.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I am not the one who would defends such a gang yet would cry murder at anyone going after them. Let me guess, never said that right?

You are correct, BY - I never said that.

How exactly would I "defend" a gang? I'm not even sure what argument a person could use to do that.

But you're half-right, I do not support vigilante justice.

Still if you want to go mano a mano against MS-13 with your Aussie bankjob special, I'm not going to stop you (someone probably should though, as you'll more likely than not end up in a ditch with your head blown off).

[Captain Oates 911]

How about this?

Illegal aliens execute three DSU college students and seriously wound fourth.

We can't get them all in our army so we need to do something.

[Heracles 417]

We can't get them all in our army so we need to do something.

Please elaborate