true or false info abt green card holder

[jaky 0]

Hi ,

All

Am inquring abt visit to india in bitween my citizenship process by reschedualing interview or oath .

and get to know that, they now treat green card holder as visiors meaning they dont have to let them in U.S once they go out of country .

is this true or just false info .

please reply if had nay news on this .

thanks

[Bobby+Umit 161]

First I heard of them treating LPR's as "visitors" - it is false.

Indeed, one of the very rights of an LPR is "An LPR may travel freely inside and out of the United States whenever you wish"

Of course, you still need to obey the laws upon entry, and requirements for residence in the US.

[v333k 59]

Hi ,

All

Am inquring abt visit to india in bitween my citizenship process by reschedualing interview or oath .

and get to know that, they now treat green card holder as visiors meaning they dont have to let them in U.S once they go out of country .

is this true or just false info .

please reply if had nay news on this .

thanks

You are a LPR as long as you don't take the oath. Once you take the oath, you are a citizen. As a LPR, you can enter the US without any problems... hence, the resident part in Legal Permanent "Resident".

[Lansbury 19]

Actually guys it is true and always has been. The only people who cannot be refused entry to the US are US citizens. A LPR has to be taken before an immigration judge and cannot just be refused at a POE but if the circumstances are correct they can and always have been subject to being refused entry by a court.

What has changed is at the POE the LPRs are now required to go through the visitor controls and not the citizen ones. It is meant to be that way at all POE but there is still some flexibility being practiced.

Edited March 24, 2010 by Lansbury

[sunny808 1]

As a general rule, LPRs who leave for brief trips are not considered to be seeking admission when they re-enter. Under certain circumstances, an LPR may be viewed as seeking admission such as when there is a break of continuous residence, trips of 180 days or more, the alien left while removal proceedings are pending, alien engaged in illegal activity after departure, etc.

Recently and as mentioned by Lansbury, US-VISIT regulations require the collection of biometrics information for international travel but USCs do not have to go through this process. Some POEs still do not have this functionality or have not fully-implemented this practice, so YMMV.

[milimelo 4,260]

What has changed is at the POE the LPRs are now required to go through the visitor controls and not the citizen ones. It is meant to be that way at all POE but there is still some flexibility being practiced.

Where did you get that information? The last time we traveled, at POE (IAD, ORD) there is still section for USC/LPRs and a separate one for visitors. Went through USC/LPR one and the only difference is that they take your picture and fingerprint you - this was in effect since January 2009. ALL stations are equipped with digital fingerprinting device and a camera.

[sunny808 1]

Where did you get that information? The last time we traveled, at POE (IAD, ORD) there is still section for USC/LPRs and a separate one for visitors. Went through USC/LPR one and the only difference is that they take your picture and fingerprint you - this was in effect since January 2009. ALL stations are equipped with digital fingerprinting device and a camera.

US-VISIT info is available here --> http://www.dhs.gov/files/programs/editorial_0527.shtm . Fingerprinting and picture-taking equipment at USC/LPR booths are designed for LPRs thus all stations will have it. I traveled with my family last summer, and as the only LPR in our group (the rest of my family are USCs), I was the only one subjected to biometrics.

[DanielParul 50]

The last time I travelled out of the US and came back, I stood in the Citizens/LPR line at immigrations. Was not even asked any questions. Ofcourse my trip was only 12 days long.

[Lansbury 19]

Where did you get that information? The last time we traveled, at POE (IAD, ORD) there is still section for USC/LPRs and a separate one for visitors. Went through USC/LPR one and the only difference is that they take your picture and fingerprint you - this was in effect since January 2009. ALL stations are equipped with digital fingerprinting device and a camera.

It came into force about 6 months ago (may be a little more). However it has been left to the POE to strictly enforce or not. It does seem to be quite hit and miss, in that some days a port will send LPRs to the visitors line and the next day to the citizens line. However it was a directive from the powers that be in Homeland Security that it shall be so.

I have read reports on another board of this occurring and as the people posting are quite frequent travelers I'll take their word it is happening.

Edited March 24, 2010 by Lansbury

[milimelo 4,260]

US-VISIT info is available here --> http://www.dhs.gov/f...orial_0527.shtm . Fingerprinting and picture-taking equipment at USC/LPR booths are designed for LPRs thus all stations will have it. I traveled with my family last summer, and as the only LPR in our group (the rest of my family are USCs), I was the only one subjected to biometrics.

The expanded US-VISIT does not ask a LPR to go to the visitor's line, I just re-read the notice. It only states that they will undergo procedures as other visitors do (picture plus fingerprint).

[sunny808 1]

The expanded US-VISIT does not ask a LPR to go to the visitor's line, I just re-read the notice. It only states that they will undergo procedures as other visitors do (picture plus fingerprint).

Yes, and I'm not saying that they have to go to the visitor's line.

[NickD 202]

Just like the some odd 81 USCIS field offices, the precise procedures followed is field office specific. Note the same characteristic in arriving at various international airports when reentering the USA. If I was looking for a common denominator between these airports, would be excessively long lines. So if you are stating a specific procedure, should also mention the name of that airport where this procedure has been established.

One thought I have had when deboarding an aircraft, civilians need military training, total lack of organization, in the military, had to deboard an aircraft in under two minutes. Takes forever to deboard a plane, people running up and down the aisle looking for carrying on luggage, only space for one thin person. Thank God, the plane isn't on fire, would burn to death.

Another observation, the USA POE sure likes to pick on good looking women coming back with a green card, like a strip search, pulled that on my wife. But she never had problems when traveling back with me, her friends also had problems when coming back alone. POE is just like any other government agency, always running into agents that like to make their own rules depending on their mood.