IMBRA

[DShaw 0]

Hi All,

I am also new to this web site.

Thanks for the patience.

Now, I am on my third visit to China to see my now fiance.

Last week I proposed and she accepted.

So,the past two days I have been doing research regarding the I-129F application and related documents.

Just about everythinng seems clear expect one question.

From all the research I've done I do think the service I used to contact my fiance would be considered a IMB.

However, if I answer yest to question 19 then I expect the interviewing officer will question her details to see if the IMB is in compliance.

I do not have any criminal records or history.

The service I registered to is chnlove.

I also understand this is really a hub portal service for several much smaller agencies.

Does anyone have experience answering YES to question 19?

Thanks

[pushbrk 13,071]

Hi All,

I am also new to this web site.

Thanks for the patience.

Now, I am on my third visit to China to see my now fiance.

Last week I proposed and she accepted.

So,the past two days I have been doing research regarding the I-129F application and related documents.

Just about everythinng seems clear expect one question.

From all the research I've done I do think the service I used to contact my fiance would be considered a IMB.

However, if I answer yest to question 19 then I expect the interviewing officer will question her details to see if the IMB is in compliance.

I do not have any criminal records or history.

The service I registered to is chnlove.

I also understand this is really a hub portal service for several much smaller agencies.

Does anyone have experience answering YES to question 19?

Thanks

I've never seen any reports of it making any difference at all how you answer the IMB question. The enforcement is related to assuring that if there ARE applicable criminal records, they are submitted and the beneficiary is aware of them. This is at most. Making sure needed records are submitted before petition approval is pretty consistent. Asking the beneficiary if they are aware of the criminal record is more spotty.

In light of this, I doubt your poll question will make any sense to many.

Make sure you read the exceptions before you conclude you used an IMB. Dating websites are NOT IMB's.

Edited March 15, 2010 by pushbrk

[DShaw 0]

I've never seen any reports of it making any difference at all how you answer the IMB question. The enforcement is related to assuring that if there ARE applicable criminal records, they are submitted and the beneficiary is aware of them. This is at most. Making sure needed records are submitted before petition approval is pretty consistent. Asking the beneficiary if they are aware of the criminal record is more spotty.

In light of this, I doubt your poll question will make any sense to many.

Make sure you read the exceptions before you conclude you used an IMB. Dating websites are NOT IMB's.

Thanks for the information.

Today, I intend to ask chnlove directly if they are IMB compliant.

[DShaw 0]

Thanks for the information.

Today, I intend to ask chnlove directly if they are IMB compliant.

[DShaw 0]

OK, I was just able to confirm that chnlove is considered an IMB.

And I have confirmed that they are in compliance.

I have copied a bit of the information from their web site and pasted below for anyone else to see have these same questions.

Of course, Chnlove complies with this law.

As a legal business, Chnlove serves clients from all over the world. It is our principles that we comply with any local, state, national or international law or regulation applicable.

So, you can set your hearts at ease as our operation complies with this new U.S. Law, and we have made smooth adjustment for both U.S. Clients and the female ladies from China and Asia.

On our U.S. clients' side:

We have an advanced mechanism in place and you will need to fill in the electronic disclosure form only ONCE before you communicate with ladies of our site. Every time you want to contact a new lady, your personal disclosure form will be translated into the lady's native language (Chinese or Thai) and delivered to her through our service provider which the lady comes from. When the lady agrees and signs for approval, you can view her address or start communication through our EMF service.

On our ladies' side:

Ladies will need to sign the personal disclosure form provided by a U.S. client who is interested in contacting her. They are real persons coming from our service providers, so it is easy for them to obtain the translation version of your release form and sign it personally. Please rest assured that your communication with your favorite lady will NOT be affected.

[Darnell 8,479]

chnlove is a weird 'site' - in that MOST of the women that you can see there -

are there because of a 3rd party service in China. There are MANY of these 3rd party services in China, that 'feed into' chnlove. These providers 'bring women' into chnlove.

so, Chnlove becomes IMBRA compliant WHEN that form is signed by both of you.

However, some of the 3rd party service providers require a fee from the chinese lady, once a successful match or betrothal is set.

You won't know about it, unless yer lass tells you, or IF you ask her.

Edited March 15, 2010 by Darnell

[pushbrk 13,071]

OK, I was just able to confirm that chnlove is considered an IMB.

And I have confirmed that they are in compliance.

I have copied a bit of the information from their web site and pasted below for anyone else to see have these same questions.

Of course, Chnlove complies with this law.

As a legal business, Chnlove serves clients from all over the world. It is our principles that we comply with any local, state, national or international law or regulation applicable.

So, you can set your hearts at ease as our operation complies with this new U.S. Law, and we have made smooth adjustment for both U.S. Clients and the female ladies from China and Asia.

On our U.S. clients' side:

We have an advanced mechanism in place and you will need to fill in the electronic disclosure form only ONCE before you communicate with ladies of our site. Every time you want to contact a new lady, your personal disclosure form will be translated into the lady's native language (Chinese or Thai) and delivered to her through our service provider which the lady comes from. When the lady agrees and signs for approval, you can view her address or start communication through our EMF service.

On our ladies' side:

Ladies will need to sign the personal disclosure form provided by a U.S. client who is interested in contacting her. They are real persons coming from our service providers, so it is easy for them to obtain the translation version of your release form and sign it personally. Please rest assured that your communication with your favorite lady will NOT be affected.

The above is nothing but a BS answer. IMO, they are not an IMB. Again, it doesn't matter if they are compliant. If you have an applicable criminal record causing you to answer YES to any of the criminal questions, you'll supply the records anyway to comply with IMBRA. No criminal record, no problem. Again, again, again, nobody is checking to see if IMB's are compliant beyond making sure the beneficiary is informed about any applicable criminal records.

[Darnell 8,479]

push - there is another documentation requirement in the IMBRA regs - that DOES cover disclosure and compliance from a web site. IMO, chnlove provides this disclosure, but I sense it's on a case-by-case basis, and must be ASKED FOR, as well.

[pushbrk 13,071]

push - there is another documentation requirement in the IMBRA regs - that DOES cover disclosure and compliance from a web site. IMO, chnlove provides this disclosure, but I sense it's on a case-by-case basis, and must be ASKED FOR, as well.

I'm aware of the IMB disclosure requirements. I'm also aware they aren't being enforced. Have you seen anything to indicate otherwise?

[DShaw 0]

I also know about the disclosure requirement.

The communciation is still a small problem between myself and Mei (haha).

Sometimes she does not understand questions like this.

Anyway, I confirmed yesterday that she had to sign an IMBRA agreement with the agency and she also had to agree to release any of her personnel information to me.

Also, from what information I was able to find on the web, the different US government offices are not communicating very well to meet the requirements of the IMBRA.

Thanks for all of your replies.