Can rabbit meat catch on?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Had rabbit when I was a kid, but don't really remember what it tasted like other than that it was quite tough.

[Scandals Ball Sac 0]

Rabbit is tasty.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Had rabbit when I was a kid, but don't really remember what it tasted like other than that it was quite tough.

[Danno 1,228]

As for raising Rabbit for meat, I doubt it will catch on as very few people find killing rabbits a ho-hum enterprise.

Here is a humane and fairly quick way in which to dispatch the Rabbit but I doubt many people are willing to do this a few times a week.

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I have killed my share of rabbits in the past and hope to kill more next year but I doubt very many people want to do it in such an up close way as farming requires.

Had rabbit when I was a kid, but don't really remember what it tasted like other than that it was quite tough.

It must be boiled first or it will be especially wild rabbit.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I have killed my share of rabbits in the past and hope to kill more next year but I doubt very many people want to do it in such an up close way as farming requires.

Tell me you aren't the spitting image of Elmer Fudd.

Edited March 6, 2010 by Galt's gallstones

[Nasturtium 500]

Yep. Rabbits aren't rodents but are Lagomorphs, but they are forbidden for the exact reason you stated which is basically a spot-on quote. ostriches are not kosher, kosher birds are generally listed out by type or species/genus. Insects are almost all not kosher but some (4) are kosher like certain locusts. Good post!

Precisely right. Rabbits chew their cud (I think?) but they don't have split hooves (they don't have hooves!!). Treif (unkosher).

A kosher animal must both chew its cud and have split hooves.

Cows, sheep, deer, giraffes - kosher.

Pigs, horses, rodents - not kosher.

For fish, the rule is fins & scales, must have both.

Hence, eel, catfish and shark are not kosher. Seafood (shrimps, scallops, lobster, crab, octopus...) not kosher.

Birds of prey - treif. Most other birds are kosher, though not all. (e.g. I don't believe ostrich is kosher).

Insects - not kosher. Worms, frogs, spiders - not kosher. Creepy crawly stuff not kosher.

Microbes (e.g. bread yeast, yoghurt bacteria) - they didn't know from such things in those days. Kosher by default.

Products of a treif animal (e.g. gelatin from animal bones) - usually treif.

Edited March 6, 2010 by julianna

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I'd get all these rules confused so I'll just stick with the edible & yummy rule. If it's edible and yummy, I can eat it. Edited March 6, 2010 by Mr. Big Dog

[Nasturtium 500]

I'd get all these rules confused so I'll just stick with the edible & yummy rule. If it's edible and yummy, I can eat it.

It honestly takes practice. it's not something you decide overnight and have down pat on the first day Nothing says the other stuff is inedible (in that it will kill you) or not yummy, but it's just against the rules so to speak As an odd and random aside, one of my mom's friend who got breast cancer said the cancer treatment center and hospital she went to put them all on a kosher diet. It was a non-religious place. I thought that was interesting and I am somewhat curious as to what their reasoning was.

[scandal 951]

I'd get all these rules confused so I'll just stick with the edible & yummy rule. If it's edible and yummy, I can eat it.

I don't keep these rules either. I long ago lapsed into sin. But I still know them pretty well.

And it can get even more odd (to me).

I bought a rather pricey Dishwasher.

when I went to install it, it actually had separate directions for how to install it in a kosher way, something about how and where to run the drain lines.

You are right, it does get more complicated. In addition to the rules about which animals can be eaten, there are further rules about separating meat from milk. This comes from the Biblical prohibition against boiling a kid (young goat) in it's mother's milk. This was extended to forbidding the eating of any meat or fowl with any dairy product. (Fish and dairy is ok). The result is: cheeseburgers, meat/cheese lasagna or pizza, turkey& swiss sandwich, a roast beef sandwich with a glass of milk -- all are unkosher, even if the underlying meat product is kosher.

There is some debate upon how long you need to wait between meat/dairy meals. The wait from dairy to meat is short (usually 30 minutes is enough), but from meat to dairy it's variable. Some wait as long as 6 hours, some follow "Dutch custom" of 3 hours.

Dairy and meat separation extends to dishes as well, hence the dishwasher instructions, Danno.

A kosher Jewish household will have separate dishes (including serving, dishes, pots and pans, silverware) for meat and dairy. They will also keep an entire 2 extra sets of meat/dairy dishes for Passover, the one week holiday with its own special rules. Each year right around now the Passover dishes get lugged out of the basement and replace the regular dishes. Afterward they get swapped back again.

Dishwashers present a problem because at the high washing temperatures the racks are thought to "absorb" the meat or dairy from the dirty dishes being washed. Hence a kosher household may have 2 sets or racks,and swap them when usng the machine to wash one set of dishes or another.

Other kitchens go so far as 2 separate sinks, even 2 separate refrigerators and ovens.

Hotels and restaurants and cafeterias, which need a "hechsher" approval that they are kosher, are typically one or the other. They either serve meat (but won't serve you any genuine butter or coffee cream or dessert ice cream), or they serve dairy, but no meat.

Whew.

It's not really that hard to live with these constraints once you're used to them. But as I said, I don't. I likes my pepperoni pizza, with loads of sausage (pork based, of course) and mozzarella smothered on top.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

It honestly takes practice.

It takes will more than practice. And I lack the former when it comes to making restrictions on my diet cutting out foods I truly enjoy - such as shrimp. And there's no way to leave out pork. Eel is rather delicious, too. So, for me it's going to have to be the "edible & yummy" rule.

[scandal 951]

It honestly takes practice. it's not something you decide overnight and have down pat on the first day Nothing says the other stuff is inedible (in that it will kill you) or not yummy, but it's just against the rules so to speak As an odd and random aside, one of my mom's friend who got breast cancer said the cancer treatment center and hospital she went to put them all on a kosher diet. It was a non-religious place. I thought that was interesting and I am somewhat curious as to what their reasoning was.

Yeah, that is odd. I've never heard of something like that - kosher diet as a cancer cure? Weird. Maybe one of the patients kept kosher, so to simplify the food preparation in the cafeteria they just made it kosher for everyone?

[scandal 951]

It takes will more than practice. And I lack the former when it comes to making restrictions on my diet cutting out foods I truly enjoy - such as shrimp. And there's no way to leave out pork. Eel is rather delicious, too. So, for me it's going to have to be the "edible & yummy" rule.

You're not Jewish, right?

Hence there is absolutely no reason to deprive yourself.

These rules apply to Jews only. There is no such restriction on non Jews. The philosophy behind Jewish halacha (ritual law) is that by being God's "chosen people", we made a pact to live by a higher standard, and more restrictive rules. The rest of humanity are still God's children, still blessed and entitled to his Grace and love, but are not required to observe Kashrut, the Sabbath, the holidays, and the rest of the mitzvot.

There are only 7 basic laws which all people are expected to observe and are judged upon, the 7 edicts of the Sons of Noah. They deal with Don't murder, Don't rape, Don't steal... basic laws like that which hopefully you're abiding by. You're a much less sinful person than I am

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You're not Jewish, right?

Hence there is absolutely no reason to deprive yourself.

These rules apply to Jews only. There is no such restriction on non Jews. The philosophy behind Jewish halacha (ritual law) is that by being God's "chosen people", we made a pact to live by a higher standard, and more restrictive rules. The rest of humanity are still God's children, still blessed and entitled to his Grace and love, but are not required to observe Kashrut, the Sabbath, the holidays, and the rest of the mitzvot.

There are only 7 basic laws which all people are expected to observe and are judged upon, the 7 edicts of the Sons of Noah. They deal with Don't murder, Don't rape, Don't steal... basic laws like that which hopefully you're abiding by. You're a much less sinful person than I am

god wants his chosen peeps to be miserable?

[Calypso 465]

I don't keep these rules either. I long ago lapsed into sin. But I still know them pretty well.

You are right, it does get more complicated. In addition to the rules about which animals can be eaten, there are further rules about separating meat from milk. This comes from the Biblical prohibition against boiling a kid (young goat) in it's mother's milk. This was extended to forbidding the eating of any meat or fowl with any dairy product. (Fish and dairy is ok). The result is: cheeseburgers, meat/cheese lasagna or pizza, turkey& swiss sandwich, a roast beef sandwich with a glass of milk -- all are unkosher, even if the underlying meat product is kosher.

There is some debate upon how long you need to wait between meat/dairy meals. The wait from dairy to meat is short (usually 30 minutes is enough), but from meat to dairy it's variable. Some wait as long as 6 hours, some follow "Dutch custom" of 3 hours.

Dairy and meat separation extends to dishes as well, hence the dishwasher instructions, Danno.

A kosher Jewish household will have separate dishes (including serving, dishes, pots and pans, silverware) for meat and dairy. They will also keep an entire 2 extra sets of meat/dairy dishes for Passover, the one week holiday with its own special rules. Each year right around now the Passover dishes get lugged out of the basement and replace the regular dishes. Afterward they get swapped back again.

Dishwashers present a problem because at the high washing temperatures the racks are thought to "absorb" the meat or dairy from the dirty dishes being washed. Hence a kosher household may have 2 sets or racks,and swap them when usng the machine to wash one set of dishes or another.

Other kitchens go so far as 2 separate sinks, even 2 separate refrigerators and ovens.

Hotels and restaurants and cafeterias, which need a "hechsher" approval that they are kosher, are typically one or the other. They either serve meat (but won't serve you any genuine butter or coffee cream or dessert ice cream), or they serve dairy, but no meat.

Whew.

It's not really that hard to live with these constraints once you're used to them. But as I said, I don't. I likes my pepperoni pizza, with loads of sausage (pork based, of course) and mozzarella smothered on top.

Reminds me of what the New Testament says about the Pharisees that even how they should wash their cups have "rules."

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

You're not Jewish, right? Hence there is absolutely no reason to deprive yourself.

That's not going to make a particularly strong ad campaign for the faith.