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It was a cultural norm to be prejudice against interracial marriages. Gay marriage follows in that same path and will vindicated by a Supreme Court ruling that I'm willing to bet will refer to the earlier ruling on interracial marriage bans.

You may think your marriage is the same as that of two men or two women, but not everyone does. Marriage between the complement of a man and a woman is far better and what God intends. People who support sodomy will go to hell. No judge can mandate against that end.

Cool, so you're not going to marry a chick. That's an option available to you. Just as I will make use of my option not to marry a dude. But who the ** am I - or you - to tell another person whether or not they should be able to elect to marry a person of the same sex as long as they are consenting adults?

You are an anarchist?

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And, you, an argument for it. But, I doubt you have one.

Well, seeing that there isn't any valid argument against it, I don't have to make any argument for it. A homosexual person should have the same right to enjoy the benefits bestowed on married couples as a heterosexual person. Just as an interracial couple should be able to enjoy those benefits that were denied to them not too long ago. You're on the losing side of history on this one whether you want to acknowledge that or not.

You are an anarchist?

Where'd you get that idea?

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Well, seeing that there isn't any valid argument against it, I don't have to make any argument for it. A homosexual person should have the same right to enjoy the benefits bestowed on married couples as a heterosexual person. Just as an interracial couple should be able to enjoy those benefits that were denied to them not too long ago. You're on the losing side of history on this one whether you want to acknowledge that or not.

Where'd you get that idea?

Interracial marriage and gay marriage is not analygous, no matter how often you cite them as so. You insult man/woman marriage by equating gay marriage to it. The reason why judges and legislatures have taken it upon themselves to force ** marriage on society is because society rejects it. And, the number of people who resent things they do not accept being forced on them is growing. What is legal now does not always have to be, and there is more energy against it than for it.

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IF this turns out to be a victory (in the long term) I would say, -it's about time the alternative-marriage gang had something they could call a victory.

Being mindful of course, this was another example were "THe People" would not have voted for it if given the chance but a few political hacks voted for it any way.

In fact, lets take a look at how the American people feel about this issue by how they vote to protect what a marriage means.

What does marriage actually mean?

Throughout history and across different cultures marriage marriage has had a lot of different and often conflicting meanings. People get married for procreation, power, economics, sex, religion, politics, and sometimes love. You can probably come up with what marriage means to you. But why should your meaning have any more weight than someone else's?

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You may think your marriage is the same as that of two men or two women, but not everyone does. Marriage between the complement of a man and a woman is far better and what God intends. People who support sodomy will go to hell. No judge can mandate against that end.

According to your beliefs. Which you are more than entitled to.

However, in a country such as ours, there are many different religions and beliefs that also deserve respect.

If our government prohibited you from living the lifestyle you believed you should be able to lead, you too would fight for it. I see no difference with gay couples. Some religions see homosexuality as a sin, so I can see how having an objective look on it as a whole would be difficult for some. However, that doesn't excuse discriminating against others for what they choose or do not choose to believe and the life they choose to live.

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Where'd you get that idea?

You express the idea that consenting adults should be free to do as they please. Are there no limits to this? If so, then the outlawing of ** marriage is a valid point of limitation. If not, then consenting adults doing as they please leads to further consequences.

The consenting adults argument is weak because it opens the door to even more hedonism.

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You express the idea that consenting adults should be free to do as they please. Are there no limits to this? If so, then the outlawing of ** marriage is a valid point of limitation. If not, then consenting adults doing as they please leads to further consequences.

The consenting adults argument is weak because it opens the door to even more hedonism.

Why is it your problem?

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What does marriage actually mean?

Throughout history and across different cultures marriage marriage has had a lot of different and often conflicting meanings. People get married for procreation, power, economics, sex, religion, politics, and sometimes love. You can probably come up with what marriage means to you. But why should your meaning have any more weight than someone else's?

Why should the opinions of those who support gay marriage carry more weight then those like mine?

I get the idea from the pro-gay marriage crowd that they are in denial about living in a collective society with agreed upon limits on behavior. You post as if you are alone in the world and no other rules apply that control behavior. Do you, like the counterculturalists of the 1960's, only abide by the rules you agree with?

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Well, seeing that there isn't any valid argument against it, I don't have to make any argument for it. A homosexual person should have the same right to enjoy the benefits bestowed on married couples as a heterosexual person. Just as an interracial couple should be able to enjoy those benefits that were denied to them not too long ago. You're on the losing side of history on this one whether you want to acknowledge that or not.

There are a number of arguments against Homosexual marriage.

The first being the same reason Drugs are illegal, the State has a vested interest in maintaining the family unit.

The farther we seem to get away from the traditional family unit, the more trouble we get.

The numbers could not be more clear.

Look, what people do in the quiet of their own home is none of my concern, but people.......don't put your kink on display and ask others to not see it, for what it is.

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Why should the opinions of those who support gay marriage carry more weight then those like mine?

I get the idea from the pro-gay marriage crowd that they are in denial about living in a collective society with agreed upon limits on behavior. You post as if you are alone in the world and no other rules apply that control behavior. Do you, like the counterculturalists of the 1960's, only abide by the rules you agree with?

Why do you find it nessary to impose rules on behavior you don't agree with?

A society allowing gay marriage does not impose on your rights or the rights of gay couples. You can continue to feel disgusted by it. Just like others might feel disgusted by your judgement of them.

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Why do you find it nessary to impose rules on behavior you don't agree with?

A society allowing gay marriage does not impose on your rights or the rights of gay couples. You can continue to feel disgusted by it. Just like others might feel disgusted by your judgement of them.

Why do you believe that your support of gay marriage should be imposed on me? It does impose on my rights, whether you see that or not.

Think of the things you would object to in society (if there are any). Would you appreciate them being forced on you?

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The first being the same reason Drugs are illegal, the State has a vested interest in maintaining the family unit.

A grand majority of crimes committed are caused by drugs (directly or indirectly). Drug use precipitates robberies, burglaries and other violent crimes. It causes many deaths, and is also a major cause of deaths and injuries in motor vehicle accidents.

As far as the family unit goes, I don't think that the laws against drugs have much to do with that, if they did, logically, alcohol would be illegal too since alcoholism is a serious cause of divorce and family issues.

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is this seriously becoming a debate in which that should not be a debate.

Party A: I want government to recognize gay marriage

Party B: I don't want government to recognize gay marriage

Damn.....

How about YOU (or you and your church in some cases) recognize your marriage and YOU make the decisions for your life based on YOUR wishes with another individual and leave government out of it.

The whole argument is ridiculous from both sides.....

There are a number of arguments against Homosexual marriage.

The first being the same reason Drugs are illegal, the State has a vested interest in maintaining the family unit.

The farther we seem to get away from the traditional family unit, the more trouble we get.

The numbers could not be more clear.

Look, what people do in the quiet of their own home is none of my concern, but people.......don't put your kink on display and ask others to not see it, for what it is.

You do realize marijuana isn't illegal because of 'family interests' but because of racism....... please learn your history.

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Why do you believe that your support of gay marriage should be imposed on me? It does impose on my rights, whether you see that or not.

Think of the things you would object to in society (if there are any). Would you appreciate them being forced on you?

Why do you think that your bigotry should be imposed onto society?

 
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