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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: China
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Hi all,

I got a PayPal debit card with my fiance's name so she could use it in China - not that she needs/wants to. I'm also adding her as the primary beneficiary on my life insurance policy from work. Plus I'll wire her some money (for studio photos) before I see her again.

While the documentation from these can be used as financial evidence for I-130, could the same be used for proof of relationship the K1 process?

If it's beneficial, would it be better for PayPal debit card transactions to occur at regular intervals - ie weekly grocery purchases?

TIA

Filed: Other Country: Afghanistan
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The financial evidence for the K1 is all on the petitioner. All they really want to see is last years (or this years) tax returns. Things I included were:

1. 3 years of tax returns.

2. Letter from employer stating my salary etc.

Your tax return needs to meet the poverty guidelines for the number of people who will be in your US household. That would typically be 2 people unless either of you have a daughter/son or other dependent.

Edited by Sousuke
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While the documentation from these can be used as financial evidence for I-130, could the same be used for proof of relationship the K1 process?

If it's beneficial, would it be better for PayPal debit card transactions to occur at regular intervals - ie weekly grocery purchases?

These types of things may be helpful to your case - they could also appear detrimental (seen as payment for example).

It may very well depend on your particular circumstances as a couple and/or the consulate/embassy you'll be processed through. I don't personally think the paypal card or sending money is a problem, but by the same token, not necessarily something to make a big deal out of either. There are many folks here on VJ going through China that could tell you more.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: China
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co-mingling, or 'shared finances' proof NOT REQUIRED for K-1 visa, even one to be adjudicated at the IV Unit in Guangzhou, China.

If you were going by 'my list' - hei ! that's for the I-130 - I not recommend that for a K-1, ever.

The financial evidence for K-1 is the I-134 form - and that form is solely on the

USC Petitioner's ability to support the foreign fiance.

A bit of a different animal, for you, at this stage.

IMO, 'mingling finances for a K-1' might flip a red flag. 'Sending her monies for things' is different than 'mingling finances', though.

Good Luck !

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: China
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Hi all,

I got a PayPal debit card with my fiance's name so she could use it in China - not that she needs/wants to. I'm also adding her as the primary beneficiary on my life insurance policy from work. Plus I'll wire her some money (for studio photos) before I see her again.

While the documentation from these can be used as financial evidence for I-130, could the same be used for proof of relationship the K1 process?

If it's beneficial, would it be better for PayPal debit card transactions to occur at regular intervals - ie weekly grocery purchases?

TIA

At my Fiancee's December Interview, she was asked 2 times, "How many times did I send her Money". She said 5, which was correct, 1 time at december for Christmas, and 4 times using Western Union anfer my April visit until December . I did not send any large amounts. It is very difficult to read how Guz thinks on any given day.

April 2008 Met online ..................... March 2010.. 3 week visit......... 19 Nov...Sent DS230 & I-864

April 2009 Met in Chongqing .......... 09 March 2010 .. Marry.................17Dec...NVC lost 230 and 864

04 May 09 Apply K1 .................... 10 April .. Apply CR1....................20Dec..NVC found 230

18 May 09 NOA 1......................... 20 April... NOA1...........................28Dec..sent more 864 docs

16 Sep 09 NOA 2......................... 06 Oct..... NOA2...........................2011

08 Nov 09 P3................................... 21 Oct..... Have Case #..............21 Jan...SIF

06 Dec 09 P4............................... 30 OCt..... Have DS-3032...............26 Jan .. CC

29 Dec 09. Interview..................... 1 Nov..... email Ds-3032...............1 Apr, 3 week visit

29 Dec,,,,No Visa.......................... 1 Nov......paid AOS.......................4 May Interview.Approved..

9 Aug 2010 I-129F ended.............. 5 Nov......paid IV.........,,,,,,,,,,, ..... 28 June, Received Visa

............................................................................................................22 July, arrive USA..

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: China
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Thanks all,

I guess other than money transfers, and not provide any additional paperwork unless asked.

It's strange that financial documents such as phone bills are used to prove the existence of a relationship. Based on that logic, it's stranger still that some documentation are counter-productive

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Kenya
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Thanks all,

I guess other than money transfers, and not provide any additional paperwork unless asked.

It's strange that financial documents such as phone bills are used to prove the existence of a relationship. Based on that logic, it's stranger still that some documentation are counter-productive

Maybe it could be thought that you are paying her to be your bride.

Phil (Lockport, near Chicago) and Alla (Lobnya, near Moscow)

As of Dec 7, 2009, now Zero miles apart (literally)!

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: China
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Thanks all,

I guess other than money transfers, and not provide any additional paperwork unless asked.

It's strange that financial documents such as phone bills are used to prove the existence of a relationship. Based on that logic, it's stranger still that some documentation are counter-productive

ya - phone bills are important, those call detail records.

Rarely reviewed on interview day, though, because of the short time each interviewee gets.

CAN be included on initial I-129F submittal, though.

IMO, for GUZ, this is a good thing - these call detail records will make it over to GUZ, be reviewed prior to interview day -

but what does it prove? :(

Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case !
Ya know, you can find the answer to your question with the advanced search tool, when using a PC? Ditch the handphone, come back later on a PC, and try again.

-=-=-=-=-=R E A D ! ! !=-=-=-=-=-

Whoa Nelly ! Want NVC Info? see http://www.visajourney.com/wiki/index.php/NVC_Process

Congratulations on your approval ! We All Applaud your accomplishment with Most Wonderful Kissies !

 

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: China
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ya - phone bills are important, those call detail records.

Rarely reviewed on interview day, though, because of the short time each interviewee gets.

CAN be included on initial I-129F submittal, though.

IMO, for GUZ, this is a good thing - these call detail records will make it over to GUZ, be reviewed prior to interview day -

but what does it prove? :(

doesn't prove anything. it's all just documents some bureaucrat thought would prove intent of a real spousal relationship in the U.S. While I understand the need for uniformity, I "proving" my relationship with documents is just so someone can tell me what is ok. It really has no bearing on my relationship. But that's the nature of burden of proof.

 
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