Water found on the Moon

[Joseph & Ana 0]

For space enthusiasts who stayed up, or woke up early, to watch the impact on Oct. 9,

the event was anticlimactic, even disappointing, as they failed to see the anticipated debris

plume. But NASA later said that a plume was indeed photographed; the live video stream

was not properly attuned to pick out the details.

The water findings come from analysis of the slight shifts in color after the impact,

showing telltale signs of water.

Here, I'll help you out seeing as doing it for yourself is a bit too much trouble.

Don't flatter yourself.

They say this now, but the initial articles contradict this. So therefore, I'm always skeptical. Where's the data?

What exactly do the early articles say beyond 'we saw no impact dust' that would lead you to preconclude any further analysis would be conflictive with what you read earlier?

Because the early articles implied that it was a wasted project because the cameras missed the impact and dust. Thats all i'm saying nothing more. I want to see the info. All they've said there, is "there's water because we say so" I want to see the data.

I see... thanks for clarifying that up.

I could direct you to look up the LCROSS site info, but data tends to be held up to peer review if it wants to be published in some fashion. But you know this from having a love of science and its proceedings...

Speaking of which:

October 16, 2009

NASA'S LCROSS Captures All Phases of Centaur Impact

MOFFETT FIELD, Calif. – NASA’s Lunar CRater Observation and Sensing Satellite (LCROSS) was a smashing success, returning tantalizing data about the Centaur impact before the spacecraft itself impacted the surface of the moon.

Plunging headlong into Cabeus crater, the nine LCROSS instruments successfully captured each phase of the impact sequence: the impact flash, the ejecta plume, and the creation of the Centaur crater.

"We are blown away by the data returned," said Anthony Colaprete, LCROSS principal investigator and project scientist. "The team is working hard on the analysis and the data appear to be of very high quality.”

Within the ultraviolet/visible and near infra-red spectrometer and camera data was a faint, but distinct, debris plume created by the Centaur's impact.

"There is a clear indication of a plume of vapor and fine debris," said Colaprete. “Within the range of model predictions we made, the ejecta brightness appears to be at the low end of our predictions and this may be a clue to the properties of the material the Centaur impacted.”

The magnitude, form, and visibility of the debris plume add additional information about the concentrations and state of the material at the impact site.

The LCROSS spacecraft also captured the Centaur impact flash in both mid-infrared (MIR) thermal cameras over a couple of seconds. The temperature of the flash provides valuable information about the composition of the material at the impact site. LCROSS also captured emissions and absorption spectra across the flash using an ultraviolet/visible spectrometer. Different materials release or absorb energy at specific wavelengths that are measurable by the spectrometers.

With the spacecraft returning data until virtually the last second, the thermal and near-infrared cameras returned excellent images of the Centaur impact crater at a resolution of less than 6.5 feet (2 m). The images indicate that the crater was about 92 feet (28 m) wide.

"The images of the floor of Cabeus are exciting," said Colaprete. "Being able to image the Centaur crater helps us reconstruct the impact process, which in turn helps us understand the observations of the flash and ejecta plume."

In the coming weeks, the LCROSS team and other observation assets will continue to analyze and verify data collected from the LCROSS impacts. Any new information will undergo the normal scientific review process and will be released as soon as it is available.

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Of course after this you'll demand to see the binned data I assume.

No I won't. ANd thanks for posting that. Its one I hadn't seen.

I still think a moonbase is a dumb idea. But thats just my opinion.

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It might be dumb if we just want to live there. Its a great staging area for other things though. Orbiting space stations aren't as protected as a shielded moonbase.

No prob on the post- its from a month ago on the project site.

[Peikko 1,575]

You could always subscribe to the Journal Science Joe, from which this extract was taken. It's a little pricey but if you need 'raw data' in order to believe something might indeed be based in scientific findings then perhaps the price would be well worth it?

[Joseph & Ana 0]

You could always subscribe to the Journal Science Joe, from which this extract was taken. It's a little pricey but if you need 'raw data' in order to believe something might indeed be based in scientific findings then perhaps the price would be well worth it?

Maybe.

[BishopMnA 0]

I don't understand science. I wish I did. But, I believe in science.

Edited November 13, 2009 by MarkNAam

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I don't understand science. I wish I did. But, I believe in science.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Scientists cannot be trusted. They're too secular and are always trying to get more research money because even though they push a leftist agenda, they are secret capitalist pigs.

[BishopMnA 0]

I don't understand science. I wish I did. But, I believe in science.

Whoa...Brother H9G...that is my picture straight from my junior high album!

...they are secret capitalist pigs.

THATS whut I'm talkin' 'bout!

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Most scientists are probably Republicans.

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Scientists cannot be trusted. They're too secular and are always trying to get more research money because even though they push a leftist agenda, they are secret capitalist pigs.

Now that you are onto our Skull and Bones plan... you will be scheduled for extermination.

Most scientists are probably Republicans.

A few years ago... that was actually quite true. Worldwide.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Most scientists are probably Republicans.

The bow ties and nerdy looking glasses are a dead giveaway.

[Kevin and 10]

Most scientists are probably Republicans.

The bow ties and nerdy looking glasses are a dead giveaway.

Don't forget the pocket protector.

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Man so wearing this Juan Valdez Café baseball hat and this black sweater in lab ain't cool enough.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Man so wearing this Juan Valdez Café baseball hat and this black sweater in lab ain't cool enough.

You're obviously too fashionable to be a Republican scientist.

[HAL 9000 96]

Man so wearing this Juan Valdez Café baseball hat and this black sweater in lab ain't cool enough.

You're obviously too fashionable to be a Republican scientist.

I didn't mention my Polo Jeans.